It was a typo it was meant to say wasn't , there was at least one other person as he was in court today


I agree , to me it has nothing to do with colour or religion and everything to do with the law , he was a Muslim, not a devout one it would appear but that is neither here nor there

I see some managed to get hoodies with Justice for Yassar printed ready for the funeral.


The local Mosques Imam Mohammed Akram who was at the funeral has now accused the police of "acting like vigilantes on the night Yassar died"

Inquest heard today firearm was recovered from passenger footwell.

I suspect Yassar has already received his justice...

And bullets and a silencer apparently. What a surprise. Live by the sword..

Well you keep saying the Duggan case got to me, when I keep saying it didn't, because it resulted in the correct verdict according to the law. Duggan set nothing back, apart from in the minds of those intent on trouble, and police blaming.

You're the one with the problem over that, and you want to make comparisons here, based on your view of Duggan, and the fact we dont know what happened here. it seems clear who you are trying to blame, and it isn't just me that has pointed that out.

The things you are after are unrealistic, such as shooting to wound, and now you want recording equipment, never mind the fact it doesn't meet the requirements for proper police evidential recording.

Ha ha. There are always those who dont want to listen to reality.

I think he got that already.

But on the 'sound moderating device'.. Does that affect the size of the book thrown at the accused? From my memory of FAC days, they could be legal on rifles for pest control, but I don't think they ever were for pistols as there was never any real justification to fit one.

It certainly adds to the evidence against him, and you cannot have one without a certificate.

There will be cases where silencers are perfectly legal and practical to reduce noise disturbance , but one imagines not for an unlicensed semi automatic handgun in your car, hence the guy in court today on charges.

[quote=skp20040;85072583]It was a typo it was meant to say wasn't , there was at least one other person as he was in court today



I agree , to me it has nothing to do with colour or religion and everything to do with the law , he was a Muslim, not a devout one it would appear but that is neither here nor there

I see some managed to get hoodies with Justice for Yassar printed ready for the funeral.


The local Mosques Imam Mohammed Akram who was at the funeral has now accused the police of "acting like vigilantes on the night Yassar died"[/QUOTE]

He said whilst getting into his lovely new Ferrari

Eh?. I can only assume you have completely misunderstood my use of the word 'welcome'. As if I was using it in regards to a migrant.

We KNOW he was a local drug dealer, and by all accounts quite a major one.

Really?. That shocks you?.

I hope to god you never find out the British public isn't fond either of paedophiles, rapists and child killers.

Legitimate businessmen don't have 10 CCTV cameras at home and a gun with bullets and silencer in their six-figure car.

The whole problem with this entire incident is that the Police forgot to inform the BBC that they were going to carry a firearms operation and that they intended to shoot someone. If only the Beeb had had a helicopter waiting for the action to start none of this would be in doubt, so lets blame the BBC.

With whom?. Answer: a small minority.

The vast majority of the UK public, white, black and brown, regard Duggan as a thug and wannabe gangsta whose death took one more scumbag off the streets.

Yes, in the sense that it was their own actions that brought about their demise. But I would have more sympathy for them as victims who were at the mercy of their addiction.
I have no sympathy whatsoever for drug pushers who make a fortune out of the desperate cravings of helpless addicts.

I think most of us feel very differently about addicts feeding their habit to we do about wealthy dealers living off other peoples misery (and their families misery) and at times death caused by what they sell, which is often cut with all sorts of rubbish making it even more dangerous.

I guess that could be one way to solve the lack of video. Outsource the production so there's a camera crew and sound team at every incident. Monetise it on YT and could be self-financing.. Well, if someone other than the Bbc got the contract.

I thought he was shot in Ferry Lane, Tottenham. Over the canal by the bridge. Either way, definitely not a high street.

EDIT: Just seen that skp20040 has answered this first!

From a quick look at the Firearms Act, I don't think they ever were for pistols given the main use is noise reduction. Pistols were only permitted to be used on approved ranges & not for hunting. It wasn't clear if possession added to the seriousness of charging, although IMHO it should.

The guy in court today has it listed as one of the of the charges so one assumes it does.

I can't be bothered reading the whole thread so apologies if already mentioned. BodyCams should be mandatory for all police all forces except covert etc. A (moving) image would speak 1000 words as they say.

Re gun crime itself Japan seems to have a good model

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-38365729

Yeah, a successful business buoyed up with drug money, maybe it's a laundry business and I don't mean washing.

Don't know about some but I would certainly not be jealous of any of their businesses(past and present) based on the declared accounts