I just knew you were going to spout racism! Yet it's you who keeps bring race in to it. If anyone sounds bitter and racist, it's you! Nobody on here has suggested all Asian businesses are dodgy, and nobody seems as 'seething angry' as you actually.

3 of them have since denied the evidence of their statements citing collective amnesia...

It's a bit of light relief, it doesn't get to me.

It's odd you should appear though, as you were the main person claiming all manner of stuff about the police there.

Please go back to that thread before you start a conspiracy theory here too.

The evidence of the gun found was given at the Inquest, where it should be given. How is that drip feeding?

And perhaps you could learn how to quote accurately and in context to your statements

No DP - I don't take a well thats just the way it is approach, sorry if thats too challenging for you.

And again, don't allude to the Duggan case then moan when it doesn't suit you, but actually its relevant here.

Another one sticking their oar in. Someone clearly suggested that all Asian businesses were dodgy....hence me answering them. The reason I'm bringing race into it...is because it was mentioned.
Instead of jumping into something blindly that doesn't involve you, use that effort into actually trying to process the conversation that lead to my conclusion.
If someone says that all Asian businesses are run on drugs and money laundering....then they're making that ill-judged assumption based on the colour of someone's skin.
To be honest...you sound ever-so-slightly angry, you have no grasp of the conversation, yet come wading in. I can't stand people who shout racism at the slightest opportunity, nor do I have any respect for people who bristle at the idea of someone suggesting something might be construed as racist. It does exist you know, regardless of it touching a nerve or two.

Plus passenger window was smashed which would fit in with bullet/s exiting?

Edit to add maybe not ,bullets would be in victim.

It's not relevant, because we dont know what happened. None of the same people were involved. it was a different force. and the circumstances of the shooting were different.

You keep bringing up Duggan, and then making up lies about my attitude to it. Dont discuss Duggan, then your incorrect posts wont need answering.

I have no problem with Duggan. The correct conclusion was reached.

Maybe police smashed window possible dead lock on car?

Aside from the verdict of the jury, what are your thoughts about the inconsistencies and police actions in the aftermath?

This is DS, it's not unusual!

That looks like it has been smashed from the outside, as does the drivers window.

Perhaps you should too.
I answered said person.
The two people on whose behalf you're so honourably offended, then answered my post to said person....hence me replying back to them. I have no need to answer to you, no idea why I'm rising to your bait.

Pretty much everyone involved with gun crime in the UK does not legally own their weapon, nor would be likely to pass the checks if they applied for one.

Is this the Darvo tactic someone mentioned earlier?

Deny, attack, reverse victim and offender?

But yes, it is relevant. Its unfortunate for the good ones out there but police policy and governance is national, not local.

I discussed them at length in the lengthy threads.

Aside from the verdict, which is what was important, there are always inconsistencies. That's how major events unfold from different angles. Conspiracy theorists then put them together to make a story, however outrageous.

This is not the Duggan thread though.

It's facts, rather than speculation. Please tell us exactly what happened here that made the police action so wrong, apart from not shooting the car passenger in the leg to disarm him.

You're absolutely right. Plus the fact the Merc passenger door is jammed against the Audi suggests the shooter couldn't have got out...

Projection.
Convenient false accusation is not perfectly reasonable response. Something you're at great pains to repeatedly condemn when you think it applies to the police and has nothing to do with the thread topic.

I haven't said they have done anything wrong, what I have said and still say is I hope they have good reason and don't make themselves look like lying fools.

Anne, with respect. Bore off please.

Aren't there other threads where you can discuss the Duggan case

I'd still doubt it. To make a safe, accurate shot you'd really want to be shooting from a stable position, and to be justifiable, you'd want as much visibility of the suspect as possible. To fire from the passenger seat would be pretty awkward, especially as anyone in the passenger seat wouldn't have been able to exit the vehicle very easily. The broken window on the Merc may have just been from impact.. But there's something on the driver's seat that suggests that car may not have had Mercede's full VIP protection kit fitted.

The pics were taken some time after the event, and as it was a planned operation, I'd suggest there may have been marked police cars forming a road block at the bottom of the slip road that aren't in the pics.. But we also don't know if there was any chase before the Audi was stopped.

There are but they prefer to pursue their respective agendas here. A sure way to get this topic closed.

I wouldn't expect anything other than a lack of civilised discussion ability reply after you've demonstrated it admirably in this thread along with a determination to drag it off topic and get it closed.

This is for the latter part of your problem which will help you find a Mark Duggan thread.

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourc...0digital%20spy

The other part, perhaps read DS rules on respect.