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Old 04-01-2017, 00:10
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Is it just me, or have the two episodes following New Year's day just focused on Ronnie's death more than Roxy's? It's all been 'but Ronnie was so appy,' and 'what about Jack?' without much grief or shock or emotional leaning towards Roxy. I get that it was Ronnie's wedding so the focus will understandably be more on her - but apart from one very brief mention in a line mentioned her name tonight (was it by Honey? - not sure can't remember ) its like there was only only death.

Can't remember a time when EE has killed off TWO main characters at the same time so maybe it makes more dramatic sense to concerntrate on one death at a time. It is after all a HUGE risk to loose two of your biggest characters in one go, And also, I geuss they'll make out that Ronnie was the 'good' sister because she went to save Roxy - the bad' sister on drugs. Sad really, because apart from Donna and then previously Christian, Roxy never really had any close friends or allies who will mourn her. The Mitchells have usually sided with Ronnie. Apart from Glenda - who I thought gave a really moving performance tonight - especially glammed down, who else is there to mourn her?
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Old 04-01-2017, 00:12
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Christian should come back for Roxy's funeral. I don't know who else she was close to apart from him and her family.
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Old 04-01-2017, 00:15
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Yeah Christian and Donna have been her only non-family friends really. But whats worse is all the family seem more focused on Ronnie not Roxy who given Amy's age should be the bigger concern I'd imagine. Matthew is too young to get it whereas for Amy this is a big issue given her age.
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Old 04-01-2017, 00:17
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Well Charlie "loved her" But she threw that back in his face and ended up screwing him over. So not sure he would be quick to mourn her either

But you are right. It has been all about Ronnie. Pretty sad really. Didn't take Jack long either to start blaming her
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Old 04-01-2017, 00:17
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Yep was eyerolling Jack rushing to blame Roxy, funny how back in the day he didn't have an issue with Roxy when impregnating her.

Back when Ronnie/Jack were first together I actually preferred the idea of Roxy/Jack before all 3 characters were ruined that is. I've never felt Ronnie/Jack actually fit as one of the all time soap love stories that EE attempt to portray it as.
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Old 04-01-2017, 00:19
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Would be fab to see Christian back. They were so close! Thought it was a nice touch Donna being so upset and going to visit Jack. Glenda wasfan tonight too. I think Ben will stick up for Roxy in the aftermath as those two were always pretty close too.
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Old 04-01-2017, 00:20
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I did think that too about Ben, back in the day when he was taking the showbiz world by storm Roxy was the supportive one, Ronnie was never overly connected to Ben.
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Old 04-01-2017, 00:24
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Yep was eyerolling Jack rushing to blame Roxy, funny how back in the day he didn't have an issue with Roxy when impregnating her.

Back when Ronnie/Jack were first together I actually preferred the idea of Roxy/Jack before all 3 characters were ruined that is. I've never felt Ronnie/Jack actually fit as one of the all time soap love stories that EE attempt to portray it as.
Yeah but Jack impregnates everyone. You honestly expect him to like every single mother of his child?
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Old 04-01-2017, 00:29
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Yeah but Jack impregnates everyone. You honestly expect him to like every single mother of his child?
True he hates Sam too. And he didn't always get along with Penny's mother either if I recall.
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Old 04-01-2017, 00:34
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Would be fab to see Christian back. They were so close! Thought it was a nice touch Donna being so upset and going to visit Jack. Glenda wasfan tonight too. I think Ben will stick up for Roxy in the aftermath as those two were always pretty close too.
Yeah good point - Jazzhands Ben and Roxy were sweet together. She looked out for him and was almost a suurgotte mum for him after Kathy's 'death' lol
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Old 04-01-2017, 03:40
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To be fair, Roxy was a crap character and it's her fault Ronnie is dead. To hell with her.
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Old 04-01-2017, 08:32
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Jay was getting closer to Roxy recently as well. Hopefully he will be the Mitchells' voice of reason (as usual) who reminds them all that it's not all about Murdery Veronica.
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Old 04-01-2017, 09:38
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To be fair, Roxy was a crap character and it's her fault Ronnie is dead. To hell with her.
You do know about Ronnie's past and her psychopathic tendencies, and her near obsession with Roxy, and habit of destroying any relationship Roxy has ever had, even if it meant killing the bloke involved?

Ronnie is dead because karma caught up with her.

Roxy always had the potential to be a great character, and Rita's acting ability would step up in any scenes she had that didn't involve Ronnie, but she was always the poor relation (literally!) and was never given storylines to enable her to step out from Ronnie's shadow (and poisonous influence).

I'm sick and tired of how extensive the Ronnie retconning has become since she came out of prison. Anyone new to EastEnders would think that Roxy was the bad egg.

Back OT, yes, it's disgraceful how Roxy's death has been sidelined.
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Old 04-01-2017, 09:42
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To be fair, Roxy was a crap character and it's her fault Ronnie is dead. To hell with her.
I disagree
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Old 04-01-2017, 09:52
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My first question on seeing the deaths was honestly "what about poor Donna?"

It was so sad seeing her going about trying to find out what was wrong.
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Old 04-01-2017, 10:01
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To be honest Ronnie was the bigger Character
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Old 04-01-2017, 10:19
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I can't remember if Roxy married Sean Slater, or if Ronnie stopped the wedding.
If she did marry him, then she was Stacey's former sister-in-law. I think Charlie should also return as they did get close - and kiss - while Ronnie was in a coma.
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Old 04-01-2017, 10:23
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Ronnie is dead because karma caught up with her.
Ronnie is dead because she did what she always did - looked out for, helped and stood by, her sister.
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Old 04-01-2017, 10:27
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My first question on seeing the deaths was honestly "what about poor Donna?"

It was so sad seeing her going about trying to find out what was wrong.
The scene in the cafe (and for that matter the one on the market with Martin) was just ridiculous. Like, NOBODY was willing to tell her what had happened. Was she not important enough to know or something?
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Old 04-01-2017, 11:40
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You do know about Ronnie's past and her psychopathic tendencies, and her near obsession with Roxy, and habit of destroying any relationship Roxy has ever had, even if it meant killing the bloke involved?

Ronnie is dead because karma caught up with her.

Roxy always had the potential to be a great character, and Rita's acting ability would step up in any scenes she had that didn't involve Ronnie, but she was always the poor relation (literally!) and was never given storylines to enable her to step out from Ronnie's shadow (and poisonous influence).

I'm sick and tired of how extensive the Ronnie retconning has become since she came out of prison. Anyone new to EastEnders would think that Roxy was the bad egg.

Back OT, yes, it's disgraceful how Roxy's death has been sidelined.
Summed it up perfectly. Ronnie always brought Roxy down.
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Old 04-01-2017, 11:52
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The scene in the cafe (and for that matter the one on the market with Martin) was just ridiculous. Like, NOBODY was willing to tell her what had happened. Was she not important enough to know or something?
She isn't family. Jack only wanted family to know as he hadn't told the kids.
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Old 04-01-2017, 11:57
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She isn't family. Jack only wanted family to know as he hadn't told the kids.
Oh, I see. I missed that. Fair enough.
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Old 04-01-2017, 12:17
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Jay was close to Roxy, why haven't we seen his reaction yet? But hey, thanks Sean O'Connor, at least we got 3 scenes about the correct way to slice carrots.
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Old 04-01-2017, 12:17
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Roxy always had the potential to be a great character, and Rita's acting ability would step up in any scenes she had that didn't involve Ronnie, but she was always the poor relation (literally!) and was never given storylines to enable her to step out from Ronnie's shadow (and poisonous influenceI'm sick and tired of how extensive the Ronnie retconning has become since she came out of prison. Anyone new to EastEnders would think that Roxy was the bad egg.

Back OT, yes, it's disgraceful how Roxy's death has been sidelined.
But Roxy is the bad egg of the two. She is utterly selfish. Ronnie has done worse things than Roxy but always with good intentions to support and protect her family. Roxy was never there for Ronnie when she needed her all those pre-EE years. Roxy was the one that got into drugs, Roxy slept with Ronnie's various men.

In actions maybe Ronnie is the bad one but overall as characters, Roxy is the bad egg
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Old 04-01-2017, 12:21
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Jay was close to Roxy, why haven't we seen his reaction yet? But hey, thanks Sean O'Connor, at least we got 3 scenes about the correct way to slice carrots.
I am praying they show how to slice a cabbage next.
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