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THE VOICE x THE X FACTOR: Which show would you go on?


View Poll Results: Which show would you go on?
The Voice UK 19 47.50%
The X Factor UK 16 40.00%
None 5 12.50%
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Old 04-01-2017, 00:21
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THE VOICE: Failed to create big names in the music industry but has a lot better reputation when it comes to contestants treatment and coaching.
THE X FACTOR: Launched some big stars nationally and also worldwide, but is branded by many as really cruel and fake with the artists.
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Old 04-01-2017, 07:10
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The Voice wins hands down for me. A far better calibre of contestant, and much more diversity.

The only reason that they have not had a really big winner is because the lack of backing from the Beeb. This should change now the show is on ITV.
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Old 04-01-2017, 10:20
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X Factor, purely because I can't sing so I'll make it to Top 6 at least
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Old 04-01-2017, 10:46
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X Factor, purely because I can't sing so I'll make it to Top 6 at least
If Honey G can then there's hope for everyone.
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Old 04-01-2017, 12:08
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The Voice, because they take talent seriously.
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Old 04-01-2017, 14:32
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X Factor by a mile.

It may be gruelling and restrictive in places. But more people watch X Factor, the judges are miles better - 'Simon Cowell vs. Gavin Rossdale' is the easiest decision ever - and it has a multi-million pound record label behind it.

I don't think going on any singing show is the best way to launch a music career, but The Voice UK is seen as a national laughing stock. Why ANYONE with a passion for music goes on there is totally beyond me.
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Old 04-01-2017, 15:22
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X Factor by a mile.

It may be gruelling and restrictive in places. But more people watch X Factor, the judges are miles better - 'Simon Cowell vs. Gavin Rossdale' is the easiest decision ever - and it has a multi-million pound record label behind it.

I don't think going on any singing show is the best way to launch a music career, but The Voice UK is seen as a national laughing stock. Why ANYONE with a passion for music goes on there is totally beyond me.
I will be surprised if this series of The Voice doesn't attract more viewers than XF, which shouldn't be too difficult tbh.
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Old 04-01-2017, 17:31
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Old 04-01-2017, 18:40
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I will be surprised if this series of The Voice doesn't attract more viewers than XF, which shouldn't be too difficult tbh.
BIB- Well it will, considering the dismal lows it sunk to last year. With the move to ITV damaging figures, I wouldn't be surprised to see it tumble even further!

I'll just wait for all the black contestants to be eliminated from this year's The Voice, and you'll start slating it like crazy! You are so weird jeref.
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Old 04-01-2017, 19:30
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BIB- Well it will, considering the dismal lows it sunk to last year. With the move to ITV damaging figures, I wouldn't be surprised to see it tumble even further!

I'll just wait for all the black contestants to be eliminated from this year's The Voice, and you'll start slating it like crazy! You are so weird jeref.
And you are extremely rude, but then I don't expect anything other than that from someone that has no sense.
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Old 04-01-2017, 19:31
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And you are extremely rude, but then I don't expect anything other than that from someone that has no sense.
And that's not rude?
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Old 04-01-2017, 19:33
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And you are extremely rude, but then I don't expect anything other than that from someone that has no sense.
>says someone has "no sense"
>has never actually spoken to them properly at all
>implies he himself has sense even though he bases his opinions of contestants on skin colour

And that's not rude?
I agree, thank you.
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Old 04-01-2017, 19:35
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And that's not rude?
If people want to dish stick out then they can expect to get some back. Simple really.
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Old 04-01-2017, 19:38
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If people want to dish stick out then they can expect to get some back. Simple really.
Or you could rise above it. But I've seen your posts on other threads telling people they 'have no sense', 'don't know talent' and 'I support a higher class of act than you' so I'm not surprised you're getting stick.
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Old 04-01-2017, 20:13
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Neither, because I know how they operate and didn't need to. I actually turned a similar show down and never regretted it while knowing more than a few who regret having gone that route even when being willing to play the game got them to semifinals or better

No disrespect to those who have done well on such shows as it suits some artist's genres and goals but not others
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Old 04-01-2017, 20:54
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X Factor by a mile.

It may be gruelling and restrictive in places. But more people watch X Factor, the judges are miles better - 'Simon Cowell vs. Gavin Rossdale' is the easiest decision ever - and it has a multi-million pound record label behind it.

I don't think going on any singing show is the best way to launch a music career, but The Voice UK is seen as a national laughing stock. Why ANYONE with a passion for music goes on there is totally beyond me.
I'd actually disagree quite heavily on this. In terms of music X Factor has become a bigger laughing stock in the UK by musicians and viewers a like whilst The Voice has actually gained a lot more respect for musicians (albeit its a reality show so not a lot but more than X Factor by a mile).

I think the reasoning is because if you get on The Voice and do well you still have to do a hell of a lot of work to make yourself become popular in the industry and give you mainstream success whilst X Factor gives out contracts willy nilly and usually ends in flop artists.

Just have to look at Becky Hill who's been working her way up in the industry ever since being on The Voice whilst other X Factor acts have tried but more often than not failed. Its pretty much mainstream or but for XF acts but The Voice is different.
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Old 04-01-2017, 21:02
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I'd actually disagree quite heavily on this. In terms of music X Factor has become a bigger laughing stock in the UK by musicians and viewers a like whilst The Voice has actually gained a lot more respect for musicians (albeit its a reality show so not a lot but more than X Factor by a mile).

I think the reasoning is because if you get on The Voice and do well you still have to do a hell of a lot of work to make yourself become popular in the industry and give you mainstream success whilst X Factor gives out contracts willy nilly and usually ends in flop artists.

Just have to look at Becky Hill who's been working her way up in the industry ever since being on The Voice whilst other X Factor acts have tried but more often than not failed. Its pretty much mainstream or but for XF acts but The Voice is different.
Becky Hill is a good example of what can be achieved by hard work as well as having some talent, which is more than can be said for many on XF.
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Old Yesterday, 00:11
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Becky Hill is a good example of what can be achieved by hard work as well as having some talent, which is more than can be said for many on XF.
It's become a tortoise and hare comparison.

The early heady days of XF gave rise to dreams of immediate success and fame. That's still the type of contestants it attracts.

OTOH, the Voice attracts those who know they still have a long slog ahead.
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Old Yesterday, 00:38
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If I could sing, wanted a career in music etc. I wouldn't go on X Factor for love nor money. I'd like to think I'd have more self-respect than to put myself through the circus of X Factor, being judged (often on appearance, styling) by the likes of Sharon Osbourne, being forced to sing songs that don't reflect my taste, adhering to the dated themes, putting yourself out there to be humiliated by the producers and/or press, being shunted because I wasn't ITV reality fodder etc.

The Voice treats its contestants with a level of respect that we've seen far too many times the X Factor doesn't. That being said, if I wanted a chance at being in The Sun or Celebrity Big Brother in 6 years time, I'd probably forego the dignity thing and audition for X Factor.
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Old Yesterday, 00:41
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X Factor by a mile.

It may be gruelling and restrictive in places. But more people watch X Factor, the judges are miles better - 'Simon Cowell vs. Gavin Rossdale' is the easiest decision ever - and it has a multi-million pound record label behind it.

I don't think going on any singing show is the best way to launch a music career, but The Voice UK is seen as a national laughing stock. Why ANYONE with a passion for music goes on there is totally beyond me.
Is it just me who would prefer Gavin Rossdale each and every day of the week?

And you cannot be serious in saying the "judges are mile better"... I'd value any of the Voice coaches' opinions over that of Sharon Osbourne, a judge so self-obsessed and/or inebriated she couldn't remember her own act's name and country of origin.
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Old Yesterday, 02:33
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Basically(pay attention young talented people ) it can be simplified to this: if you have a good/great voice and talent and ambition with a side of enjoying attention and loving to sing one of these shows is a great opportunity at a career you likely would have no chance at otherwise

If you have a great and/or very marketable voice and image a love of music and have some songwriting ability and musicality as well,it could be a good opportunity for exposure and opening doors. but it is also a huge risk in many ways not least being misrepresented and exploited .You'll likely be better off taking the "scenic route" to success


If you have all these things a sense of who you are and are also a fantastic writer and/or musician who has already begun to gain a following you don't need the show as much as it needs you and the risks outweigh the potential benefits of "winning"
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Old Yesterday, 09:29
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I would like to see artists such as the ones listed below in the BBC Sound of 2017 on both The Voice and XF, but its probably wishful thinking that it is ever likely to happen.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/prof...X/the-longlist
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Old Yesterday, 10:49
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Honestly it's very simple, if you haven't got the x factor go on The Voice, if you haven't got the voice go on The X Factor

Not saying there are no good singers on the show but uninteresting people make it a lot worse, just last month I remember Che's existence
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Old Yesterday, 11:46
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Basically(pay attention young talented people ) it can be simplified to this: if you have a good/great voice and talent and ambition with a side of enjoying attention and loving to sing one of these shows is a great opportunity at a career you likely would have no chance at otherwise

If you have a great and/or very marketable voice and image a love of music and have some songwriting ability and musicality as well,it could be a good opportunity for exposure and opening doors. but it is also a huge risk in many ways not least being misrepresented and exploited .You'll likely be better off taking the "scenic route" to success

If you have all these things a sense of who you are and are also a fantastic writer and/or musician who has already begun to gain a following you don't need the show as much as it needs you and the risks outweigh the potential benefits of "winning"
I agree with all of this, but would add just one other category - if you are over 30, and still haven't had a major shot at success, you have very little to lose going on either show - although The Voice will treat a 30 year old with more dignity than XF does! A 30 year old singer-songwriter, without any major record contracts in their past, may just not be very good (and The Voice will let them know!) - but there's always one or two who've slipped through the cracks and would benefit from the exposure that primetime TV gives them - as record companies will dismiss people almost out of hand in that age range. I'd advise avoiding XF like the plague for almost anyone wanting to be an actual, serious music artist!

I do agree that there are people who are rising artists, who could easily get trapped in shows like these, when sticking to their existing career paths would have garnered better (though slower) results. At the end of this year's The Voice, I think there'll be a clear result of which show can work - and it might be neither, but I think a commercial channel plus a decent, less-flogged-to death formula will give a real fighting chance to those who make the finals. The BBC was totally hand-tied with being a non-commerical broadcaster, and yet trying to support what was essentially a commercial venture. It never had a chance of properly launching the artists, for fear of contravening the rules.
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Old Yesterday, 13:48
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I agree with all of this, but would add just one other category - if you are over 30, and still haven't had a major shot at success, you have very little to lose going on either show - although The Voice will treat a 30 year old with more dignity than XF does! A 30 year old singer-songwriter, without any major record contracts in their past, may just not be very good (and The Voice will let them know!) - but there's always one or two who've slipped through the cracks and would benefit from the exposure that primetime TV gives them - as record companies will dismiss people almost out of hand in that age range. I'd advise avoiding XF like the plague for almost anyone wanting to be an actual, serious music artist!

I do agree that there are people who are rising artists, who could easily get trapped in shows like these, when sticking to their existing career paths would have garnered better (though slower) results. At the end of this year's The Voice, I think there'll be a clear result of which show can work - and it might be neither, but I think a commercial channel plus a decent, less-flogged-to death formula will give a real fighting chance to those who make the finals. The BBC was totally hand-tied with being a non-commerical broadcaster, and yet trying to support what was essentially a commercial venture. It never had a chance of properly launching the artists, for fear of contravening the rules.
Some good points made here. Who ever wins this year will certainly have more opportunity of having some success than when the show was on the beeb. I think that the series could be very interesting.
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