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NHS turning into 'national hangover service', health chief warns
"The NHS is being transformed into the "national hangover service" as binge drinking diverts vital resources, the head of the health service in England said.
Simon Stevens condemned "selfish" party-goers in a stark warning as the nation gears up for one of the most alcohol-fuelled nights of the year. The chief executive of NHS England added that the health service is already facing considerable strain from the annual spike in winter emergencies." http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7503061.html Isn't it time to wack up the tax on alcohol to act as a deterrent, and help tpwards the NHS costs |
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maybe there should be a privatised national hangover service.
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Maybe we should start charging people who use the service in that way.
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maybe there should be a privatised national hangover service.
I've had more hangovers than I care to remember but I've never used the NHS services for one. |
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"The NHS is being transformed into the "national hangover service" as binge drinking diverts vital resources, the head of the health service in England said.
Simon Stevens condemned "selfish" party-goers in a stark warning as the nation gears up for one of the most alcohol-fuelled nights of the year. The chief executive of NHS England added that the health service is already facing considerable strain from the annual spike in winter emergencies." http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7503061.html Isn't it time to wack up the tax on alcohol to act as a deterrent, and help tpwards the NHS costs |
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The tax on alcohol already covers the amount of money spent by the NHS on treatment multiple times over.
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Lets face it, the police and ambulance service spend a significant amount of resources "babysitting" drunk people in towns and cities.
It seems some feel they can drink as much as they like and they'll be picked up, sorted out and rescued by the emergency services. This sort of "care" should be charged to the person requiring it. |
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What does a hangover feel like - just a headache or other symptoms too? Does the feeling have to be a certain severity to be a 'hangover' or are they called that for even a slight wine-induced headache?
How much do you need to drink before you get one? I'm not a big drinker so I am kind of intrigued. |
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What does a hangover feel like - just a headache or other symptoms too? Does the feeling have to be a certain severity to be a 'hangover' or are they called that for even a slight wine-induced headache?
How much do you need to drink before you get one? I'm not a big drinker so I am kind of intrigued. The headache and feeling sick will be the most typical. But your general dehydration (which may account for the headache), nausea, vertigo etc would be the mainstay. |
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There is. It's called your local pharmacy. Or when that fails your local pub.
I've had more hangovers than I care to remember but I've never used the NHS services for one. I say this as a former heavy drinker myself - the problem with alcohol is the more you drink, the harder it becomes to know when you've had enough. As long as someone keeps pouring it's easy to keep drinking, and before you know it your legs won't hold you up and you can barely slur your home address to the taxi driver. I think the problem has become worse since 'predrinking' became more popular. People are already pissed by the time they head out to town to get pissed, and that's why the police and paramedics spend Saturday night picking people out of the gutter. I'm not being judgemental because I've been dragged home myself many times. I don't think charging or fining people is the way to go, because how many drunk people will be willing to cough up? And asking people with a sore head to pay before leaving A&E will only result in more staff being abused. There doesn't appear to be an easy answer. I think a long-term change needs to be effected, where people are more aware of their tolerance for booze and don't drink before they leave the house. This article was clearly trying to appeal to people's individual sense of responsibility; the problem being what once you're drunk you tend to ignore your good intentions and keep drinking! |
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There will be many symptoms depending on how much you've had to drink.
The headache and feeling sick will be the most typical. But your general dehydration (which may account for the headache), nausea, vertigo etc would be the mainstay. I feel I have had enough after a pint or two, so I just stop then - and even the second pint seems a chore to finish. |
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It's not only the immediate hangover effect that the NHS has regularly to cope with (Try any A&E at the weekends) it is also the long term effect of alcohol on the body. Liver damage is widely accepted by now other medical conditions are beginning to be associated as well. Coronary and breast cancer to name but two
All putting extra pressure on an already overstretched NHS |
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What does a hangover feel like - just a headache or other symptoms too? Does the feeling have to be a certain severity to be a 'hangover' or are they called that for even a slight wine-induced headache?
How much do you need to drink before you get one? I'm not a big drinker so I am kind of intrigued. I also find it frightengly shocking how most of the women on these occassions and places are acting worse than the men and they aren't your ordinary women. |
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Sort of feverish but without the fever then. I wonder how long after the drinking finishes before the hangover starts? If you started dinging at say 7PM and pushed on through to 5 AM, would the first drinks start to make for the hangover while you were still drinking or does the countdown to it only start when you have had your last?
I feel I have had enough after a pint or two, so I just stop then - and even the second pint seems a chore to finish. If you throw down 5 pints in your first couple hours and then nurse a pint for the next hour, you might start to feel a hangover. If you were drinking properly from 19:00 to 05:00 like you say, you wouldn't feel a hangover until about midday at the earliest as you'd just still be drunk. |
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Why the obsession to be drunk?
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Lets face it, the police and ambulance service spend a significant amount of resources "babysitting" drunk people in towns and cities.
It seems some feel they can drink as much as they like and they'll be picked up, sorted out and rescued by the emergency services. This sort of "care" should be charged to the person requiring it. Is it at the point of use of the service or afterwards? Who would collect the money? What about people that can't pay - should they not be treated? What about drug users - should they also be charged? And people who put themselves in danger by doing irresponsible things e.g. getting hypothermia from going up a mountain against weather warnings? People who drive badly and cause RTA? |
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Why the obsession to be drunk?
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Why the obsession to be drunk?
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Well I can't make some intellectual psychological case, but I know I have great nights out with alcohol. I also know people have been "getting drunk" for centuries so the sneering tone of "obsession", is a bit rich.
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Why the obsession to be drunk?
əbˈsɛs/Submit verb > preoccupy or fill the mind of (someone) continually and to a troubling extent. "he was obsessed with the idea of revenge" >be constantly talking or worrying about something. "her husband, who is obsessing about the wrong she has done him" I think the word you're looking for is 'desire'. In answer to your question, because it's fun getting drunk. You should try it sometime
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They weren't drunk on this scale and certainly didn't have such amount of booze that is available today. Booze is an obsession in this country. They're proud of it and it appears to be the follow the herd mentality. Don't want to be left out.
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The tax on alcohol already covers the amount of money spent by the NHS on treatment multiple times over.
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Oh well. Try prohibition here, we'll see how that goes.
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It might cover the cost of treating liver damage, heart problems and other alcohol related health disease. I doubt it covers the cost of treating hangovers and people who turn expecting treatment should be charged.
Alcohol consumption in the UK falls nearly every year yet we insist on thinking of new 'deterrents'. I'm not sure there is that much hard evidence that problem drinking will decrease if the price goes up. |
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Just send time wasters home.
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