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Old 04-01-2017, 16:42
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https://www.gov.uk/government/news/b...ne-programming

The government wants to have a pot of £60m over the next 3 years which broadcasters can bid for to help them produce PSB content, eg religious and childrens. Their point is that if the BBC says no they have nowhere else to go. They also want non-BBC radio stations to bid for money so they can air comedy and drama.

Personally, I think it is a non-starter. We would be paying Channel 5 to show a version of Songs of Praise? And when the funds run out they would stop. I don't see the point. And what other radio station would air a drama?
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Old 04-01-2017, 18:34
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I can't see anyone else being interested in radio drama, but commercial radio has done the odd documentary in the past.

And until about 1992 virtually all commercial radio stations had religious output of some sort. A few continued until at least the early 00s.

Turning to the telly I think quite a few people would like Morning Worship back on ITV.

(NB I'm personally atheist, so I'm not advocating any of this myself, just pointing out possible uses for the money)
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Old 04-01-2017, 19:28
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https://www.gov.uk/government/news/b...ne-programming

The government wants to have a pot of £60m over the next 3 years which broadcasters can bid for to help them produce PSB content, eg religious and childrens. Their point is that if the BBC says no they have nowhere else to go. They also want non-BBC radio stations to bid for money so they can air comedy and drama.

Personally, I think it is a non-starter. We would be paying Channel 5 to show a version of Songs of Praise? And when the funds run out they would stop. I don't see the point. And what other radio station would air a drama?
Where is the funding for this coming from?

The Licence Fee?
Or separate funding directly from DCMS?

There's a 25 page consultation document and I can't see the answer in that.
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Old 04-01-2017, 19:32
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The only 2 stations that might do radio drama would be LBC or talk radio
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Old 04-01-2017, 19:52
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Where is the funding for this coming from?

The Licence Fee?
Or separate funding directly from DCMS?

There's a 25 page consultation document and I can't see the answer in that.
Trying to answer my own question:

This article (albeit from May 2016) says:

"The White Paper is out and the government has announced plans to pilot a public service content fund. This will be used for public service genres that are in decline. One of those ‘genres’ is children’s content. Warned about the prospect of top-slicing, the £60 million will be taken from funds left over from the last licence settlement..........

A Public Service Content Fund, taken from unallocated funding from the 2010 licence fee settlement"

Not particularly clear but I suspect it's coming from the funding ring-fenced for DSO which wasn't spent in full and was thus returned to DCMS.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourbee...-tv-in-britain
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Old 04-01-2017, 20:04
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The only 2 stations that might do radio drama would be LBC or talk radio
No chance whatsoever.
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Old 04-01-2017, 22:24
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Or they could just give it (back) to the BBC to continue doing exactly the sort of shows that this "consultation" is about.
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Old Yesterday, 08:27
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It sounds to me, that in the governments opinion, the BBC is doing such a poor job of public broadcasting - other broadcasters should get the funding to do it, give them a chance.....
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Old Yesterday, 08:40
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Wouldn't it make more sense to offer this money directly to production companies so they can bid to make programmes which will be aired on the BBC channels? Force the corporation to have defined slots in it's schedule where it has to broadcast the programmes. Otherwise you just have this issue of enforcing oversight of commercial channels to make sure they are not profiting from PSB content.
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Old Yesterday, 09:00
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It sounds to me, that in the governments opinion, the BBC is doing such a poor job of public broadcasting - other broadcasters should get the funding to do it, give them a chance.....

Or the BBC's dominance in PSB, (as per the consultation page link) especially on radio. Commercial radio just will not do such PSB, on the levels the BBC does, due to bums on seats, advertising revenue and so on. As you know the BBC has to make such PSB programming as part of it's charter. The very same charter that was continued for at least another 11 years by the government.
That the Government seems to think cash should be handed over to commercial sectors that already have the money to make such programming, but choose not to, seems a little strange.
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Old Yesterday, 09:16
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Or the BBC's dominance in PSB, (as per the consolation page link) especially on radio. Commercial radio just will not do such PSB, on the levels the BBC does, due to bums on seats, advertising revenue and so on. As you know the BBC has to make such PSB programming as part of it's charter. The very same charter that was continued for at least another 11 years by the government.
That the Government seems to think cash should be handed over to commercial sectors that already have the money to make such programming, but choose not to, seems a little strange.
The commercial stations doing moronic phone-ins will know their listeners will retune if they suddenly find a radio drama or religious service on the station.
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Old Yesterday, 12:18
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Surely it's now clear that giving public money to private firms is not public service?

I mean, we have had this for several decades and it's obviously a failure.


I have to say the BBC is sort of a quasi-private entity itself, hence why it's not much of a public service these days.

The desire for profits and public service are incompatible.
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Old Yesterday, 13:45
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I wouldn't mind it if was used to fund things like more original pre-school programmes on Channel 5, a genre which has largely been abandoned by other commercial broadcasters and shunted off the main channels. However I see no benefit in handing out cash to just to make a Songs of Praise rip-off.
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Old Yesterday, 14:10
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More death by a thousand cuts for the BBC. This is licence fee money, people assume will pay for BBC programmes.

This is the equivalent of the BBC Three cost savings.

Last time we did this they wasted money on local TV , most of which went bust
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Old Yesterday, 14:29
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More death by a thousand cuts for the BBC. This is licence fee money, people assume will pay for BBC programmes.

This is the equivalent of the BBC Three cost savings.

Last time we did this they wasted money on local TV , most of which went bust
I have to say, I do agree with you. The commercial sector won't be interested in this for obvious reasons. This is more wasting of licence fee payers money when it should be given to the BBC to get on with doing what it does best, making the very best in UK content.
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Old Yesterday, 19:13
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It used to be the loony left now it's the "loony right".

This obsession with putting private firms in charge is crazy. It does not serve the public.
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Old Yesterday, 22:57
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It sounds to me, that in the governments opinion, the BBC is doing such a poor job of public broadcasting - other broadcasters should get the funding to do it, give them a chance.....
There are no figures available that back up that opinion with facts.
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