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Old 04-01-2017, 21:23
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Once article 50 is triggered it will calm down.
I don't think it will. It will either remain the same or will get worse. The coveridge is pretty much bordering obsessive and or is obsessive.

Considering that Brexit is arguably the biggest issue that has occurred since WWII, we should not underestimate the effects, both good and bad, that it will have on this generation, and future generations, for the next decade or more.

The one thing that is certain' is that there will be change. Some change will be for the better, some change will be for the worse. But most of the effects of Brexit will be massive.

The media have every right to keep Brexit in the forefront of the daily news,' and people have every right to express their thoughts and concerns.

It's not going to stop. It's only just started.
I don't think it is the biggest issue at all, the media have just chosen to focus in on it to the crazy obsessive levels that they have.
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Old 04-01-2017, 22:32
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Hasn't it ever occurred to you that all the bad news guesswork, is what is causing the financial problems and it could become self-fullfilling propechies that might not have happened? The sterling crash happened because of people gambling on guesswork of what may happen and it became self-fullfilling as nothing has actually changed from the 23rd to now apart from the consequences of the guesses and forecasts. Constant bad news stories linking things to Brexit that have nothing to do with it and constantly running the country down is what will cause the most problems, and some people seem to be delighting in that, and most of thr guesswork comes form organisations and thinktanks with agendas just trying to justify their existance and cost and actually serve no useful service or purpose (and that applies to both sides).
Take responsibility for your vote.
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Old 04-01-2017, 22:38
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I heard something about Putin and Russia mentioned on the news recently, offering a small break from Brexit and Trump... which was nice.
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Old 04-01-2017, 22:39
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That would still be equivalent to tens of thousands of jobs being lost. Maybe everyone who finds themselves out of work because of "EUexit" should just "get a grip".
Some or all of which will be compensated by the freedoms the government will gain by being out of the EU.
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Old 04-01-2017, 22:40
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Some or all of which will be compensated by the freedoms the government will gain by being out of the EU.
Will I be able to use "freedom" to pay the mortgage and the supermarket shop? What's the exchange rate with the pound?
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Old 04-01-2017, 22:52
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Better either get used to it or avoid all news media for the next 2 -10 years, if you are bored with it now when it hasn't even started yet, then heaven help you when the negotiations eventually start.
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Old 04-01-2017, 23:08
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Some or all of which will be compensated by the freedoms the government will gain by being out of the EU.
Well, I'm sure those who find themselves out of a job when their employer goes bust or moves abroad will console themselves that they are now free to do...err... I'm not sure what.
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Old 04-01-2017, 23:13
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Well, I'm sure those who find themselves out of a job when their employer goes bust or moves abroad will console themselves that they are now free to do...err... I'm not sure what.
Threats of job losses always happen when change is put forward.

Give women equal pay = job losses

Give a minimum wage = job losses

Give employees rights = job losses

Stop employing children to go up chimneys = job losses


Sometimes change has to happen even if their is a cost.
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Old 04-01-2017, 23:23
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I'm absolutely sick of it too. For the record before anyone accuses me of a position, I didn't vote in the referendum, I was on holiday in Spain.

However if you watch newsnight now there is literally not a day that goes by that Evan Davis doesn't gather together the same faces for a discussion on some aspect of Brexit, which inevitably recycles the same arguments on both sides ad nausea.

Although obviously I can see it from the point of view of the media, especially the broadcast political media, who realise they effectively have a free lunch for the next few years. There will never again be one of those "slow news days". If you are struggling to fill a show, just get a Brexit discussion going and wheel out some of the talking heads.

BTW just a word of warning for the people celebrating this fact. The public do get bored of the same thing on repeat. We know this from every tv show that has gone on too long and been cancelled. If you keep serving up the same dish, one day everyone will turn their nose up at it. Eventually there will be mainstream brexit fatigue and people will start not to care.
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Old 04-01-2017, 23:27
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Its all guesswork and hot air until negotiations are completed. Its just the sort of stuff political jounalists love ...... speculation, gossip, seeing their opinoons in print and filling column inches. With a side order of smears.
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Old 04-01-2017, 23:31
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Its all guesswork and hot air until negotiations are completed. Its just the sort of stuff political jounalists love ...... speculation, gossip, seeing their opinoons in print and filling column inches. With a side order of smears.
The trouble is that the media keep trying to get the Government to tell us what they will do, even though the Government keeps telling them they can't give away their negotiating position.

Whilst I believe they should state their position so that we can know for sure what they are trying to get out of Brexit (which should include NO Freedom of movement) it shouldn't be up to the media to ruin things.
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Old 04-01-2017, 23:33
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I'm bored senseless by the subject, not least because there's nothing new to discuss. It's the same old "what if" circular arguments time after time after time. The only thing that changes is the excuse to trigger it.

It's getting a bit "Groundhog Day" on the subject on here as well mind.
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Old 04-01-2017, 23:51
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Once article 50 is triggered it will calm down.
No.

After Article 50 is triggered, media scrutiny will intensify. So far, this has been a "phoney war". Things will get interesting when the EU responds to the UK governments' demands.

Then there will be the failed negotiation talks in the months before the UK exit date.
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Old Yesterday, 00:03
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Bored already? You've got 10 more years of this to look forward too. Better get used to it!
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Old Yesterday, 00:06
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I certainly am and was ages ago and I cannot believe how the media and political programmes keep on discussing Brexit on a daily basis (whenever they're on) as if discussing the same old stuff over and over again is going to bring forward the whole process and their recycled questions!

I so wish the Daily Politics, News Night, radio phone ins, esp LBC all gave it a rest with brexit and just waited for Article 50 to be triggered and then report as and when there is any new developments rather than endless "discussions" and repeating the same old stuff over and over again.

Agree/Disagree?
Good luck with that one! We''ve got at least a DECADE of this Brexit word.
Brexit, Brexit, Brexit!

Even after we leave the EU there's the "post Brexit talks" with the rest of the world. Those will take YEARS to complete.

Everyone in this country is gonna be thoroughly sick to the back teeth of this word in the future!
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Old Yesterday, 00:19
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I wish they would also ask European politicians the same questions as they ask ours. For example, if they have a hard brexit, then how will they cope with the EU's loss of GDP, and the additional unemployment? Who will pay the share currently being paid by the British? But who exactly can you ask these questions to?

They reason they don't, is that there is no one they can ask as the EU is unaccountable. This is the reason for the Brexit vote, there is no one you can question about the decisions that have been made. The EU is too many layers away from the ordinary voter.

The same questions on Brexit are getting very tedious as both sides are not being asked the questions.
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Old Yesterday, 01:33
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The trouble is that the media keep trying to get the Government to tell us what they will do, even though the Government keeps telling them they can't give away their negotiating position.

Whilst I believe they should state their position so that we can know for sure what they are trying to get out of Brexit (which should include NO Freedom of movement) it shouldn't be up to the media to ruin things.
I don't quite see what's to be gained from keeping quiet on what we want either. At some point when Article 50 is triggered, Theresa May via her ministers will have to tell the EU what she wants and the only advantage of keeping quiet up until then might be that there will be so many things to get through that they might nod through a lot of the things they would have otherwise resisted if they have enough advance notice of.

Having said that, this will probably have to be signed off by all EU countries too unless they delegate it all to the EU negotiators, but if its the latter then the advantage I mentioned earlier might get unpicked anyway. Either way, if the EU try to mess us up, we can do the same back to them and its not in their interests to lose business with us either.
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Old Yesterday, 01:37
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Good luck with that one! We''ve got at least a DECADE of this Brexit word.
Brexit, Brexit, Brexit!

Even after we leave the EU there's the "post Brexit talks" with the rest of the world. Those will take YEARS to complete.

Everyone in this country is gonna be thoroughly sick to the back teeth of this word in the future!
Hmm, when Mastrict was agreed to, John Major and a couple of his top ministers took a few weeks getting the opt outs he wanted but then the Tory backbenchers and the begining of the Brexiter movement rose up and pretty much paralysed the John Major Government of 1992-1997. The un called Remainers kept quiet on the whole for all those years until the referendum was called and then they started speaking up and have done post the Brexit vote. It looks like they will do the same as the Brexiter's/Euro Sceptics of the 1990's and if they do and win any second referendum (if there is one), then this will be never ending.
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Old Yesterday, 08:55
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I wish they would also ask European politicians the same questions as they ask ours. For example, if they have a hard brexit, then how will they cope with the EU's loss of GDP, and the additional unemployment? Who will pay the share currently being paid by the British? But who exactly can you ask these questions to?

They reason they don't, is that there is no one they can ask as the EU is unaccountable. This is the reason for the Brexit vote, there is no one you can question about the decisions that have been made. The EU is too many layers away from the ordinary voter.

The same questions on Brexit are getting very tedious as both sides are not being asked the questions.
Why are you bothering about Europe? You voted out I assume. Let them deal with their issues and we will deal with ours. Too many layers I assume relates to individual sovereign Parliaments having their say on how any deal with UK impacts them. Do you want some bod in Brussels to speak in behalf of 27 countries?
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Old Yesterday, 09:35
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I certainly am and was ages ago and I cannot believe how the media and political programmes keep on discussing Brexit on a daily basis (whenever they're on) as if discussing the same old stuff over and over again is going to bring forward the whole process and their recycled questions!

I so wish the Daily Politics, News Night, radio phone ins, esp LBC all gave it a rest with brexit and just waited for Article 50 to be triggered and then report as and when there is any new developments rather than endless "discussions" and repeating the same old stuff over and over again.

Agree/Disagree?
Outside the media and DS I can't remember the last time I heard someone mention brexit and I haven't heard doom and gloom about it. Where I work, a large UK based multi-national engineering and science company, business is continuing as before without a single glitch. At the other end of the scale I friend who runs/owns an engineering fabrication company tells me business is booming.
In short everything is continuing as if June 23rd never happened.
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Old Yesterday, 09:45
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Seeing how Leave refused to address the facts before we voted, then we have to have the proper debate afterwards.

Simples.
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Old Yesterday, 10:12
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Seeing how Leave refused to address the facts before we voted, then we have to have the proper debate afterwards.

Simples.
Too late. Hot air. No point.
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Old Yesterday, 10:24
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Yep, it is the same old stuff with people droning on about it. Apart from a court challenge or something else that is genuine news I can't think that there is anything to report that hasn't already been reported and discussed ad nauseum. Until A50 is actually riggered and negotiations start it is pretty much just repetition like many threads on here.
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Old Yesterday, 10:44
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Yep, it is the same old stuff with people droning on about it. Apart from a court challenge or something else that is genuine news I can't think that there is anything to report that hasn't already been reported and discussed ad nauseum. Until A50 is actually riggered and negotiations start it is pretty much just repetition like many threads on here.
The reporting over last couple of days has been about preparedness. That is a critical line that the media is right to pursue. It might not be what some want to hear but that does not mean it isn't a legitimate 'new' story. In fact it is top of the list surely at the beginning of 2017 as we near the triggering of Article 50.
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Old Yesterday, 10:55
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Some or all of which will be compensated by the freedoms the government will gain by being out of the EU.
Are you thinking of the Great Repeal Bill ?

If enacted, The Great Repeal Bill will allow for new levels of ministerial abuse of power. David Davis, Secretary of State for Exiting the EU said “The Repeal Bill will include powers for ministers to make some changes by secondary legislation, giving the Government the flexibility to take account of the negotiations with the EU as they proceed.” This is likely to mean the introduction of powers under which the executive amends not only statutory instruments but also Acts of Parliament.
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