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Once article 50 is triggered it will calm down.
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Considering that Brexit is arguably the biggest issue that has occurred since WWII, we should not underestimate the effects, both good and bad, that it will have on this generation, and future generations, for the next decade or more.
The one thing that is certain' is that there will be change. Some change will be for the better, some change will be for the worse. But most of the effects of Brexit will be massive. The media have every right to keep Brexit in the forefront of the daily news,' and people have every right to express their thoughts and concerns. It's not going to stop. It's only just started. |
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Hasn't it ever occurred to you that all the bad news guesswork, is what is causing the financial problems and it could become self-fullfilling propechies that might not have happened? The sterling crash happened because of people gambling on guesswork of what may happen and it became self-fullfilling as nothing has actually changed from the 23rd to now apart from the consequences of the guesses and forecasts. Constant bad news stories linking things to Brexit that have nothing to do with it and constantly running the country down is what will cause the most problems, and some people seem to be delighting in that, and most of thr guesswork comes form organisations and thinktanks with agendas just trying to justify their existance and cost and actually serve no useful service or purpose (and that applies to both sides).
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I heard something about Putin and Russia mentioned on the news recently, offering a small break from Brexit and Trump... which was nice.
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That would still be equivalent to tens of thousands of jobs being lost. Maybe everyone who finds themselves out of work because of "EUexit" should just "get a grip".
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Some or all of which will be compensated by the freedoms the government will gain by being out of the EU.
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Better either get used to it or avoid all news media for the next 2 -10 years, if you are bored with it now when it hasn't even started yet, then heaven help you when the negotiations eventually start.
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Some or all of which will be compensated by the freedoms the government will gain by being out of the EU.
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Well, I'm sure those who find themselves out of a job when their employer goes bust or moves abroad will console themselves that they are now free to do...err... I'm not sure what.
Give women equal pay = job losses Give a minimum wage = job losses Give employees rights = job losses Stop employing children to go up chimneys = job losses Sometimes change has to happen even if their is a cost. |
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I'm absolutely sick of it too. For the record before anyone accuses me of a position, I didn't vote in the referendum, I was on holiday in Spain.
However if you watch newsnight now there is literally not a day that goes by that Evan Davis doesn't gather together the same faces for a discussion on some aspect of Brexit, which inevitably recycles the same arguments on both sides ad nausea. Although obviously I can see it from the point of view of the media, especially the broadcast political media, who realise they effectively have a free lunch for the next few years. There will never again be one of those "slow news days". If you are struggling to fill a show, just get a Brexit discussion going and wheel out some of the talking heads. BTW just a word of warning for the people celebrating this fact. The public do get bored of the same thing on repeat. We know this from every tv show that has gone on too long and been cancelled. If you keep serving up the same dish, one day everyone will turn their nose up at it. Eventually there will be mainstream brexit fatigue and people will start not to care. |
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Its all guesswork and hot air until negotiations are completed. Its just the sort of stuff political jounalists love ...... speculation, gossip, seeing their opinoons in print and filling column inches. With a side order of smears.
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Its all guesswork and hot air until negotiations are completed. Its just the sort of stuff political jounalists love ...... speculation, gossip, seeing their opinoons in print and filling column inches. With a side order of smears.
Whilst I believe they should state their position so that we can know for sure what they are trying to get out of Brexit (which should include NO Freedom of movement) it shouldn't be up to the media to ruin things. |
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I'm bored senseless by the subject, not least because there's nothing new to discuss. It's the same old "what if" circular arguments time after time after time. The only thing that changes is the excuse to trigger it.
It's getting a bit "Groundhog Day" on the subject on here as well mind. |
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Once article 50 is triggered it will calm down.
After Article 50 is triggered, media scrutiny will intensify. So far, this has been a "phoney war". Things will get interesting when the EU responds to the UK governments' demands. Then there will be the failed negotiation talks in the months before the UK exit date. |
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Bored already? You've got 10 more years of this to look forward too. Better get used to it!
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I certainly am and was ages ago and I cannot believe how the media and political programmes keep on discussing Brexit on a daily basis (whenever they're on) as if discussing the same old stuff over and over again is going to bring forward the whole process and their recycled questions!
I so wish the Daily Politics, News Night, radio phone ins, esp LBC all gave it a rest with brexit and just waited for Article 50 to be triggered and then report as and when there is any new developments rather than endless "discussions" and repeating the same old stuff over and over again. Agree/Disagree? Brexit, Brexit, Brexit! Even after we leave the EU there's the "post Brexit talks" with the rest of the world. Those will take YEARS to complete. Everyone in this country is gonna be thoroughly sick to the back teeth of this word in the future! |
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I wish they would also ask European politicians the same questions as they ask ours. For example, if they have a hard brexit, then how will they cope with the EU's loss of GDP, and the additional unemployment? Who will pay the share currently being paid by the British? But who exactly can you ask these questions to?
They reason they don't, is that there is no one they can ask as the EU is unaccountable. This is the reason for the Brexit vote, there is no one you can question about the decisions that have been made. The EU is too many layers away from the ordinary voter. The same questions on Brexit are getting very tedious as both sides are not being asked the questions. |
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The trouble is that the media keep trying to get the Government to tell us what they will do, even though the Government keeps telling them they can't give away their negotiating position.
Whilst I believe they should state their position so that we can know for sure what they are trying to get out of Brexit (which should include NO Freedom of movement) it shouldn't be up to the media to ruin things. Having said that, this will probably have to be signed off by all EU countries too unless they delegate it all to the EU negotiators, but if its the latter then the advantage I mentioned earlier might get unpicked anyway. Either way, if the EU try to mess us up, we can do the same back to them and its not in their interests to lose business with us either. |
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Good luck with that one! We''ve got at least a DECADE of this Brexit word.
Brexit, Brexit, Brexit! Even after we leave the EU there's the "post Brexit talks" with the rest of the world. Those will take YEARS to complete. Everyone in this country is gonna be thoroughly sick to the back teeth of this word in the future! |
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I wish they would also ask European politicians the same questions as they ask ours. For example, if they have a hard brexit, then how will they cope with the EU's loss of GDP, and the additional unemployment? Who will pay the share currently being paid by the British? But who exactly can you ask these questions to?
They reason they don't, is that there is no one they can ask as the EU is unaccountable. This is the reason for the Brexit vote, there is no one you can question about the decisions that have been made. The EU is too many layers away from the ordinary voter. The same questions on Brexit are getting very tedious as both sides are not being asked the questions. |
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I certainly am and was ages ago and I cannot believe how the media and political programmes keep on discussing Brexit on a daily basis (whenever they're on) as if discussing the same old stuff over and over again is going to bring forward the whole process and their recycled questions!
I so wish the Daily Politics, News Night, radio phone ins, esp LBC all gave it a rest with brexit and just waited for Article 50 to be triggered and then report as and when there is any new developments rather than endless "discussions" and repeating the same old stuff over and over again. Agree/Disagree? In short everything is continuing as if June 23rd never happened. |
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Seeing how Leave refused to address the facts before we voted, then we have to have the proper debate afterwards.
Simples. |
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Seeing how Leave refused to address the facts before we voted, then we have to have the proper debate afterwards.
Simples. |
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Yep, it is the same old stuff with people droning on about it. Apart from a court challenge or something else that is genuine news I can't think that there is anything to report that hasn't already been reported and discussed ad nauseum. Until A50 is actually riggered and negotiations start it is pretty much just repetition like many threads on here.
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Yep, it is the same old stuff with people droning on about it. Apart from a court challenge or something else that is genuine news I can't think that there is anything to report that hasn't already been reported and discussed ad nauseum. Until A50 is actually riggered and negotiations start it is pretty much just repetition like many threads on here.
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Some or all of which will be compensated by the freedoms the government will gain by being out of the EU.
If enacted, The Great Repeal Bill will allow for new levels of ministerial abuse of power. David Davis, Secretary of State for Exiting the EU said “The Repeal Bill will include powers for ministers to make some changes by secondary legislation, giving the Government the flexibility to take account of the negotiations with the EU as they proceed.” This is likely to mean the introduction of powers under which the executive amends not only statutory instruments but also Acts of Parliament. |
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