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Old Yesterday, 11:01
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Are you thinking of the Great Repeal Bill ?

If enacted, The Great Repeal Bill will allow for new levels of ministerial abuse of power. David Davis, Secretary of State for Exiting the EU said “The Repeal Bill will include powers for ministers to make some changes by secondary legislation, giving the Government the flexibility to take account of the negotiations with the EU as they proceed.” This is likely to mean the introduction of powers under which the executive amends not only statutory instruments but also Acts of Parliament.
Let's hope Parliament does its job and scrutinises and amends legislation put before it. The authoritarian / dictatorial traits of this government should be terrifying to everyone.
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Old Yesterday, 11:01
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Once article 50 is triggered it will calm down.
You jest.
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Old Yesterday, 11:05
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It is great for the government and its partisan supporters to keep all the inane Brexit discussion at the forefront of the media as it diverts attention away from all the crises that they are worsening re the NHS, social care, housing, homelessness etc etc
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Old Yesterday, 11:08
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Given what's at stake if we let the brexiteers get their hard brexit, no, I am not sick to the death of this war we're waging on them.

Every single day should be devoted to ensuring brexit never happens.

If you cannot see the damage it's already doing to our economy then I pity you.

At the very least hard brexit needs to be stopped from ever happening. And I don't care if every single person in the country gets bored stiff in the process. The end goal being achieved is the prize.
Blimey. Haven't you left yet? I love your still sulking look! New year, new you?
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Old Yesterday, 11:13
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It is great for the government and its partisan supporters to keep all the inane Brexit discussion at the forefront of the media as it diverts attention away from all the crises that they are worsening re the NHS, social care, housing, homelessness etc etc
All of which will be severely impacted by Brexit, both through our reduced affluence and the sheer monumental effort required by Government to deal with the whole issue.

Something people didn't give the slightest thought to when they voted Brexit. They were warned it would seriously harm the NHS, but they knew better.
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Old Yesterday, 11:27
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Given what's at stake if we let the brexiteers get their hard brexit, no, I am not sick to the death of this war we're waging on them.

Every single day should be devoted to ensuring brexit never happens.

If you cannot see the damage it's already doing to our economy then I pity you.

At the very least hard brexit needs to be stopped from ever happening. And I don't care if every single person in the country gets bored stiff in the process. The end goal being achieved is the prize.
"What did you do in the war Daddy?"

"I achieved my goal of boring people"
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Old Yesterday, 11:32
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"What did you do in the war Daddy?"

"I achieved my goal of boring people"
Perhaps not, you can only bore people if they are listening to you.
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Old Yesterday, 11:34
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Why are you bothering about Europe? You voted out I assume. Let them deal with their issues and we will deal with ours. Too many layers I assume relates to individual sovereign Parliaments having their say on how any deal with UK impacts them. Do you want some bod in Brussels to speak in behalf of 27 countries?
The reason to question European representatives is to determine their negotiating position and question it. Right now they make statements that are taken as gospel, but if questioned then a better understanding could be determined. We seem to only be asking these questions of our representatives. I want an even playing field.
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Old Yesterday, 11:38
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It is great for the government and its partisan supporters to keep all the inane Brexit discussion at the forefront of the media as it diverts attention away from all the crises that they are worsening re the NHS, social care, housing, homelessness etc etc
If only we had a strong opposition who could raise these issues...
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Old Yesterday, 11:44
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All of which will be severely impacted by Brexit, both through our reduced affluence and the sheer monumental effort required by Government to deal with the whole issue.

Something people didn't give the slightest thought to when they voted Brexit. They were warned it would seriously harm the NHS, but they knew better.
Agreed. Although I didn't find it easy to decide which way to vote (as both sides were Project Fear and both were Project Dishonesty) the likely, imo, hits to public services and the clear, again imo, lack of any coherent plan were probably the main reasons why I voted remain.
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Old Yesterday, 11:47
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If only we had a strong opposition who could raise these issues...
Indeed. It is sad that the people who need a strong, credible opposition are being let down not just by the government but a Labour Party that are too busy fighting each other. At least the Scots have the SNP
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Old Yesterday, 11:48
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Once article 50 is triggered it will calm down.
That's wishful thinking.
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Old Yesterday, 12:10
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I actually agree but it it's mostly the Brexiters fault.

If they actually had a coherent plan and didn't give off the various mixed signals - then the media would have something to debate. Rather, they (the media) jump on every minor message until Theresa May comes up with another empty soundbite like 'Brexit means Brexit' or ' It will be a red, white and blue Brexit'.

The whole thing is a slowly unfolding car crash.
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Old Yesterday, 12:48
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The authoritarian / dictatorial traits of this government should be terrifying to everyone.
I am now gravely concerned about long term UK political power and process. Mrs May is trying to use the referendum result as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to increase executive power. She absolutely insisted on having sole authority on triggering the Article 50 exit mechanism. She’s refusing to confirm a UK parliamentary vote on any exit deals.
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Old Yesterday, 12:52
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Once article 50 is triggered it will calm down.
"Despite the fixation of the UK press on the triggering of Article 50, the key moment in the next six months will not be this but the EU response to it. The likely scenario is one of familiar EU negotiating territory: long interludes of tedium and small print, interspersed with episodes of late-night brinkmanship, leading eventually to a compromise
that satisfies no-one but with which everyone can live. However, if the continental consensus is that the UK is still living on Fantasy Island, we could be heading for a showdown sooner than anyone expects
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source: http://ukandeu.ac.uk/wp-content/uplo...-months-on.pdf
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Old Yesterday, 12:54
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I am now gravely concerned about long term UK political power and process. Mrs May is trying to use the referendum result as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to increase executive power. She absolutely insisted on having sole authority on triggering the Article 50 exit mechanism. She’s refusing to confirm a UK parliamentary vote on any exit deals.
The Leavers wanted to "take back control" from the EU. They just weren't clear on who they wanted to give it back to.
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I am now gravely concerned about long term UK political power and process. Mrs May is trying to use the referendum result as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to increase executive power. She absolutely insisted on having sole authority on triggering the Article 50 exit mechanism. She’s refusing to confirm a UK parliamentary vote on any exit deals.
Thing is Brexit supporters just don't see it. The ebb and flow of politics means that sometime there will be a PM in Downing Street implementing all sorts they don't agree with. They'll be screaming about Parliamentary Sovereignty AGAIN.
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Old Yesterday, 13:08
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"Despite the fixation of the UK press on the triggering of Article 50, the key moment in the next six months will not be this but the EU response to it. The likely scenario is one of familiar EU negotiating territory: long interludes of tedium and small print, interspersed with episodes of late-night brinkmanship, leading eventually to a compromise
that satisfies no-one but with which everyone can live. However, if the continental consensus is that the UK is still living on Fantasy Island, we could be heading for a showdown sooner than anyone expects
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source: http://ukandeu.ac.uk/wp-content/uplo...-months-on.pdf
I don't think there is any doubt that the first response from EU will be get real. Negotiating team will come back blaming intransigence of EU that UK can't have its cake and eat it. DM / DE / DT will go into full assault mode on EU. Brexiteers on here will go crazy demanding that we just walk away. That'll show um!!! Financial markets will do what they do. Nothing happens on negotiating front until late 2017. ECJ rules that article 50 can be untriggered. 2018 all to play for.
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Old Yesterday, 13:33
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2018 all to play for.
Mrs May wants the UK outside on the EU before 1 April 2019.

If there's still no exit, trade or transitional agreement by the end of next year, I anticipate voter anxiety. Especially if some UK businesses start voicing ever louder concerns.

A nationwide relief that Brexit hasn't been so bad thus far has driven UK consumer confidence and the economic figures which go with it.

But at some point Mrs May is going to have to a make public statement to all UK voters and business that the UK is going to leave the Customs Union or the Single Market or both. And she will need to explain exactly how that is going affect us all.
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Old Yesterday, 17:22
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I certainly am and was ages ago and I cannot believe how the media and political programmes keep on discussing Brexit on a daily basis (whenever they're on) as if discussing the same old stuff over and over again is going to bring forward the whole process and their recycled questions!

I so wish the Daily Politics, News Night, radio phone ins, esp LBC all gave it a rest with brexit and just waited for Article 50 to be triggered and then report as and when there is any new developments rather than endless "discussions" and repeating the same old stuff over and over again.

Agree/Disagree?
Totally agree.

This politics thread is completely dominated by Brexit. I wouldn't mind so much if the threads were interesting and informative. However, they are usually full of rabid Brexiteers/Remainers each trying to get the upper hand with the most absurd stories of what is/what is not going to happen.

Unspectacular speculation..............from every angle
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