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Why do so many smokers smoke in areas that are very clearly marked as no smoking? |
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Once you're outside you're outside. Those signs trying to stop people smoking are frankly ridiculous
There's already a ban on smoking indoors and now they're trying to police the outdoors. |
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It's not that black & white. Perhaps i should go to a playground and light up near the swing set and slide and just blow smoke in the kids faces.
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Another over dramatic reaction and ignoring the air pollution around us every day....smokers will tend to blow smoke upwards, not in peoples faces.
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Once you're outside you're outside. Those signs trying to stop people smoking are frankly ridiculous
There's already a ban on smoking indoors and now they're trying to police the outdoors. OP you sound like a sanctimonious pain in the arse tbh. |
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Because basically nobody enforces the ban.
That's probably closer to the truth. |
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Because basically nobody enforces the ban.
That's probably closer to the truth. |
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But are the people doing anything illegal, if you read post 1 people are smoking outside not inside.
Whether smoking indoors or outdoors in a place where it has been banned you're unlikely to be caught, or have any action taken against you. Pubs and licenced premises are different in as much as the local authority will keep more of an eye on what happens in such premises, but even then the enforcement officers tend to work during the day only and due to council cutbacks etc there won't be a huge amount of them locally at any time. For me personally, if someone is smoking inside an enclosed bus shelter, yes they're flouting rules, and yes its definitely inconsiderate and selfish but I'm fully aware no action is likely to be taken against them. |
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Like bus shelters, outside stations and airports there are usually loads of very clear signs. But smokers just flounce these and light up where they like.
It's horrible for us non smokers that have to wait for a late bus for over an hour and constantly breath in smoke. Couldn't move far away else the bus might quickly come and I could miss it ![]() |
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If reasonable and sensible provision was made for smokers they wouldn't need to and I would wager wouldn't want to flounce about flouting the rules and flaunting their disobedience.
![]() I happened to notice an interaction with someone smoking on my local station platform recently. The platform is long and open to the elements except for a bit of a canopy at the end near the entrance. The person had gone way up the platform, well away from other passengers waiting, for a cigarette while waiting for a train - and I am guessing the one that had been delayed by 25 minutes. Unfortunately for them the entire platfom is marked with 'No Smoking' signs. Naturally some other passenger had to make it their business to walk 40 meters up the platform to point this fact out to the poor guy. UK airports too now have absolutely no provision for smokers and bear in mind they may be encarcerated in the airport, then a plane and then an airport again for many hours. I am not suggesting allowing people to smoke on planes again or even willy-nilly in the airport but I do feel some space should be made available. The blanket ban on all "inside" spaces strikes me as having been taken far beyond safeguarding non smokers and has been implemented to be at worst judgemental and punitive and at best some do gooder strategy to save smokers from themselves. This seems to me to be in the territory of the thin end of the wedge. |
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Because they're selfish, self entitled cretins?
I notice even in places where they ask you not to smoke and provide plenty of designated areas (like lots of zoos, theme parks and the likes), lots of smokers still ignore it and light up where the hell they want. With this sort of behaviour, is it any wonder so many people see smokers as rude, selfish and ignorant? |
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I would agree with the poster above. Some provision should be made in places like UK airports.
In Dublin Airport for example, in terminal 1 there is a rooftop bar after security where you can smoke outside whilst waiting for your flight. Seems fair enough to me. I don't smoke personally, but if other people do then that's up to them and it doesn't particularly bother me. It is a legal activity and generates huge amounts of tax income for the government. The indoor smoking ban is a good thing - pubs are generally much cleaner and fresher than they used to be as most of them have been done up at least once since the ban in the UK kicked in. I wouldn't want to go back to the days of old, but have no problem with decent provision for people who wish to smoke, as well as provision for those who don't, and don't want to be surrounded by it. As for pub gardens - tough luck, you wanted smokers out of the inside of pubs, so they've gone outside. Don't complain now that you can't use pub gardens for smoking. Where did you think they'd go!? |
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The blanket ban on all "inside" spaces strikes me as having been taken far beyond safeguarding non smokers and has been implemented to be at worst judgemental and punitive and at best some do gooder strategy to save smokers from themselves. This seems to me to be in the territory of the thin end of the wedge. |
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Once you're outside you're outside. Those signs trying to stop people smoking are frankly ridiculous
There's already a ban on smoking indoors and now they're trying to police the outdoors. OP you sound like a sanctimonious pain in the arse tbh. |
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If reasonable and sensible provision was made for smokers they wouldn't need to and I would wager wouldn't want to flounce about flouting the rules and flaunting their disobedience.
![]() I almost wonder why bother making provisions when smokers regularly disrespect and ignore the ones that are made, even though they're perfectly reasonable. Just because you're outside doesn't mean the smoke instantly dissipates as if it was never there. Smokers could do well to remember that. Would smokers appreciate people going up and burping in their faces, even if it is "outside" and "there's much worse things you're breathing in"? |
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The outside of where I work tends to have a congregation of pallid smokers all chugging away in a huddle. The ground is allways awash with dog ends and phlegm where they all stand around hoiking up the clag in their lungs and spitting it all over the pavement. Dirty feckers.
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The outside of where I work tends to have a congregation of pallid smokers all chugging away in a huddle. The ground is allways awash with dog ends and phlegm where they all stand around hoiking up the clag in their lungs and spitting it all over the pavement. Dirty feckers.
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Do people still actually smoke? Thought it was a thing of the past? Everyone around these parts has switched to vapes and they are a small minority.
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Do people still actually smoke? Thought it was a thing of the past? Everyone around these parts has switched to vapes and they are a small minority.
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I often vape at bus stops & have only be warned once by a grumpy driver. So I told him straight that if the idiots at the bus company actually had buses on schedule, then I wouldn't be here vaping.
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Do people still actually smoke? Thought it was a thing of the past? Everyone around these parts has switched to vapes and they are a small minority.
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I think the number of adult smokers in the UK is reducing. They are literally a dying breed.
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What about hospitals, like the one I work at, where people congregate outside the doors next to the ambulance bay and chain smoke, is that OK with you? Should we have that inflicted on us? Should ill people have to walk through a cloud of smoke just because it's "outside"?
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Like bus shelters, outside stations and airports there are usually loads of very clear signs. But smokers just flounce these and light up where they like.
It's horrible for us non smokers that have to wait for a late bus for over an hour and constantly breath in smoke. Couldn't move far away else the bus might quickly come and I could miss it ![]() Your excuse is terrible. 10 - 15 yards of the wind direction would suffice. I'd love to know what bus stop you use where a bus can come and go with you stood 15 yards away. |
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Don't smoke in enclosed places - no exceptions, so it's simple and easy to understand. A major advantage I would have thought.
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The Law covers enclosed spaces.
Private Property is covered by any rules the owner fancies. |
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I'm not a smoker but I respect their right to smoke outside.
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