Actually I think this simple scenario sums up 21st century PC'ness pretty nicely.

A gay mans right to sleep in your bed over-rides your right to choose who sleeps in your bed.

From that transcript of the conversation it sounds like Austin may have said that he wants/fancies Ray J at some point in the house...which is why Stacy is querying why Ray won't sleep with Brandon but will sleep with Austin (someone that fancies him). I don't see any issue with what Stacey said, and I'm gay myself. I think it's a storm in a teacup and I think it's just typical BB production, not showing us a previous conversation which may have lead to this.

I do find the use of the term 'boy' disrespectful. Within many of the black communites, to call someone a 'boy' is extremely offensive. In fact there's been a number of court cases (in the USA) in relation to the use of this word in various discrimination cases

This in a nutshell

Ridiculous comment.

Very ridiculous statement, it had nothing to do with having a right to choose with who sleeps in your bed. No one was forcing Ray J to sleep in the bed with him. He said he was alright to do so.

It was the fact someone implied that Ray should presumably have a problem with it because the sleeping partner is homosexual. And then using the phrase 'the gay boy' which, especially in America, is a derogatory phrase. It was used to single him out as a minority. As would a room full of white people calling someone 'the black boy'.

Maybe PC has evolved drastically over the years due to the many years of hate and discrimination minority groups have faced and to perhaps help prevent stereotyping and bullying prevailed from ignorant bigots.

And banned from the forums.

Imagine calling a boy who is gay a gay boy!
What ever next.

It was used to single him out, certainly, but not "as a minority". She wanted to specify who she was talking about (and seemed to forget his name) but she was wasn't ostracizing him in any way or turning it into an 'us and them' thing. He wasn't even there to hear her say it, so it wasn't that derogatory was it?

I mean, of course people do use that phrase as a pejorative, and not just homophobes saying it to homosexuals but kids saying it to other kids in the schoolyard, regardless of sexual orientation, as if the accusation of being gay is itself derogatory. This clearly isn't that. I watched it about 10 times trying to write that transcript. She was talking calmly, trying to confirm what she thought James was saying, since he and Coleen kept using the word 'he' interchangeably for different people. There's nothing at all homophobic about wondering whether somebody else might not want to share his bed with a gay man.

I can say "gay man", right?

It was all about context.

Fair enough, maybe you're right. Though I can see how it could come across offensive the way she referred to him as the gay boy. People interpret things in different ways I suppose. Like last year when Megan called Tiffany a ghetto c***, I didn't think it was racist, more highlighting her character, yet many people did find it racist.

Exactly this!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...stin-armacost/


Usually I don't agree with the sun.

Good choice.

I do think that they should take the trouble to learn all the names.

so it would have been ok if say Colleen had referred to Ray as the 'black boy' then?

Austin isn't an adolescent so that wouldn't make much sense.

He is a man not a boy.

Well she got a warning for saying it, so I'm happy.

Didn't she get a warning for that comment ?! Saying she was being sarcastic was a very poor attempt at saving herself .

Seriously ?

Yes she did get a warning, it was the way and context she said it in.

Exactly. Why on earth would someone's sexuality be relevant in addressing them anyway unless prejudice played a part

Exactly this.

And it's funny how she didn't remember his name yet she remembered he was homosexual.

As a gay man, the only thing about all this that offends me is how offended people are by somethings that isn't remotely offensive.

Out of all of the gay people who have commented on this, none have been offended. Not one.

The only ones offended are the straights who think that as gay people, we should be offended as we are 'sensitive souls'. Well **** that. I and my gay friends, we call each other 'faggot', 'queer', 'shirt lifters' and 'chutney ferrits'. Being called 'gay boy' is offensive only to those who know **** all about gay culture. We are not all 'sensitive souls' and do not need protecting from politically-correct straight people who have, actually, no accurate idea or concept of what gay culture is.

I also wouldn't want to share a bed with a stranger - be they straight, gay, transgender or alien. I'm sure that many people wouldn't, either.

Much a do about nothing

Why do you assume I'm straight?

Youu can appropriate any words for your own use much as blacks have appropriated the N Word which I can't even type without it being censored or indeed reported.

At school all I was called was gay boy, again and again day by day.

The context she used it in coupled with the back tracking about the comment caused me to be offended, she was also warned by big brother for said offence, she also believes in scientology which is inherently homophobic.