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Most disliked soap producer of recent times?


View Poll Results: Who is the most disliked soap producer out of the options given?
Lorraine Newman (Love and Warmth) 6 6.45%
Bryan K/Birkwood 35 37.63%
Stuart Blackburn (The Hat) 38 40.86%
Sean'O'Conor (SOC) 17 18.28%
Other (State in thread) 7 7.53%
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Old Yesterday, 00:09
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Old Yesterday, 01:16
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Birkwood ruined Brendan's exit so for that I will always hate him
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Old Yesterday, 01:38
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I think Kate Oates worked miracles with the disasters The Hat left behind, especially with Emmerdale...which he left at rock bottom until Kate made it better than it had ever been...bringing it up to #1 soap. But I hate hate hate what SoC is doing to Eastenders...somebody sack him and employ Kate Oates.
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Old Yesterday, 01:51
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Dominic Treadwell-Collins, for his bizarre obsession with dismantling the entire younger cast, treating the program like a fan fiction, rewriting history, the proven lies in interviews, making a family based on his own the central characters for 2 years, all just to massage his own ego and appease his band of twitter followers.

Not to mention the crappy stuff like Peggy's exit, that had nothing to do with Eastenders or the characters in it, and everything to do with him and his celebrity mates patting themselves on the back like a glorified circle jerk.

An arrogant producer through and through.

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Old Yesterday, 02:46
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I actually thought that he was a very fine and courageous man.

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Old Yesterday, 04:20
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Soc for the tedious Archers style community sequences and the horrible slow pans from face to face or room to room, grimly linking everyone.
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Old Yesterday, 06:31
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I think the rot first started with Louise Berridge.

Most other producers since had their ups & downs, (some more downs than ups ) but Kirkwood was pretty bad in general! DTC was good in parts (especially up to the live ep) but as J-B said, spoilt it with the retconning of the show & the sensationalism his tenure provided.

SOC is definitely leveling things out, and I still believe he will bring good things in 2017, however, I still maintain he was wrong to kill R&R.
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Old Yesterday, 07:36
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Then SOC came along and undid the repairs
Nope. SOC has repaired all of the things Kirkwood destroyed: character consistency, proper families, realistic storytelling.

While DTC made the show more entertaining that it had been under Kirkwood and Newman, he did nothing to repair the damage done to the show's characters or the way the show had become reliant on sensationalism. In some respects he made things worse. He also gutted the show's history in an attempt to insert his own crappy characters (and therefore himself) into that legacy.
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Old Yesterday, 07:40
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From live week onwards? Yes.

If it was Kirkwood who did 'Claudette being buried alive' and 'Gavin's mansion chase and murder' there would be uproar.
DTC's last year and a half on EastEnders was appalling. Much worse than anything Bryan Kirkwood produced on the show. The whole Gavin storyline (the mansion chase and the Halloween episodes especially) were among the worst scenes I've seen on a soap. There was also that period after the live week where we seemingly had the exact same Buster/Shirley/Dean/Mick scenes playing over and over again which became so boring very quickly.
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Old Yesterday, 07:45
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I think the rot first started with Louise Berridge.

Most other producers since had their ups & downs, (some more downs than ups ) but Kirkwood was pretty bad in general! DTC was good in parts (especially up to the live ep) but as J-B said, spoilt it with the retconning of the show & the sensationalism his tenure provided.

SOC is definitely leveling things out, and I still believe he will bring good things in 2017, however, I still maintain he was wrong to kill R&R.
That's true about Louise Berridge. It was during her era when the show started to decline and it's never quite recovered from then. Her axings and storylines were pretty terrible, aswell as most of the new characters she brought in (although I loved the Moon family and Dennis Rickman, they were brilliant additions to the cast.)
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Old Yesterday, 08:05
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Aura I have never been rude or disrespectful in relation to your views. Kindly do the same to mine please. Referring to my opinion as the cult of SOC is ridiculous frankly and childish. I'm not going to say I'm not enjoying the show if I I am enjoying it
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Old Yesterday, 08:09
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Brian Kirkwood, 2 words Tyler, Anthony, need I say more
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Old Yesterday, 08:09
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The cult of SOC strikes again
Grow up you pathetic child.
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Old Yesterday, 08:27
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Kirkwood. Loads of reasons. He trashed 2 soaps, and his special blend of Massive Ego Producer with the "Big Clumsy Issue Storyline + everything else tacky nonsensical trash" model seems to have spread to all of the soaps now. Plus I don't much rate how he treats his cast.
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Old Yesterday, 08:38
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Aura I have never been rude or disrespectful in relation to your views. Kindly do the same to mine please. Referring to my opinion as the cult of SOC is ridiculous frankly and childish. I'm not going to say I'm not enjoying the show if I I am enjoying it
I completely agree, a little maturity wouldn't go amiss! Why would we be saying we were enjoying the show if it weren't true? I've been vocal enough when I didn't like the show, so rest assured I would be doing the same now we're that the case.

The new Exec. has worked wonders to stabilise the show. It had no consistancy when it came to characterisation. Ian, Sharon, Jane, Phil, Lauren and Abi were all ruined by the Bobby plot. Shirley Carter (for one day only) became a gun-wielding maniac, Claudette a death-defying murderer and we had Babe and Gavin - the two least convincing villains the show has ever seen. It was as if they pulled a name out of a hat and then matched it up to a story. What happened to Ronnie Mitchell? Under DTC she became a part-time psychopath/ part time doting mother and girlfriend.

The rich history of EE suddenly being changed to suit mediocre storylines such as the ridiculous Mitchell/ Hubbard feud, Gavin taking one of Den's most iconic lines and shitting all over it and Kat Moon giving birth to two children.

I can honestly say I didn't care about any of the characters under his reign, they were just saying whatever needed saying to bring the sensationalist plots to life. They weren't a relatable group of characters, and they were so charicatured that you couldn't even hate the villains, they were just 2D baddies.

Did I care about Lee's depression under DTC? Not at all. Did I rate the Cokers? Not at all. But these characters came to life under SOC's reign and I really believe that this is the strongest the show has been since the Live Week.
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Old Yesterday, 08:59
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The Hat, The Hat, The Hat! There is and never will be anybody worse.
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Old Yesterday, 09:17
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I apologize for daring to crack a joke on this forum! I should already know how sensitive some can be and be more mindful of that in future.
You don't have to read my anti EastEnders posts much longer as I won't be watching after next week!
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Old Yesterday, 09:34
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I apologize for daring to crack a joke on this forum! I should already know how sensitive some can be and be more mindful of that in future.
You don't have to read my anti EastEnders posts much longer as I won't be watching after next week!
You said you were switching off after Ronnie and Roxy's exit. It's aired.
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Old Yesterday, 10:09
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I completely agree, a little maturity wouldn't go amiss! Why would we be saying we were enjoying the show if it weren't true? I've been vocal enough when I didn't like the show, so rest assured I would be doing the same now we're that the case.

The new Exec. has worked wonders to stabilise the show. It had no consistancy when it came to characterisation. Ian, Sharon, Jane, Phil, Lauren and Abi were all ruined by the Bobby plot. Shirley Carter (for one day only) became a gun-wielding maniac, Claudette a death-defying murderer and we had Babe and Gavin - the two least convincing villains the show has ever seen. It was as if they pulled a name out of a hat and then matched it up to a story. What happened to Ronnie Mitchell? Under DTC she became a part-time psychopath/ part time doting mother and girlfriend.

The rich history of EE suddenly being changed to suit mediocre storylines such as the ridiculous Mitchell/ Hubbard feud, Gavin taking one of Den's most iconic lines and shitting all over it and Kat Moon giving birth to two children.

I can honestly say I didn't care about any of the characters under his reign, they were just saying whatever needed saying to bring the sensationalist plots to life. They weren't a relatable group of characters, and they were so charicatured that you couldn't even hate the villains, they were just 2D baddies.

Did I care about Lee's depression under DTC? Not at all. Did I rate the Cokers? Not at all. But these characters came to life under SOC's reign and I really believe that this is the strongest the show has been since the Live Week.
This is a very good post. You've summed it up far better than I could.
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Old Yesterday, 10:15
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You said you were switching off after Ronnie and Roxy's exit. It's aired.
Actually I said their funerals.
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Old Yesterday, 10:16
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Aura you bleat about how people can't accept your views but you don't show much tolerance for others either then claim you're joking.

I have a fantastic sense of humour but I can't abide constant changing of the goal posts
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Old Yesterday, 10:19
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Kirkwood. You have to see HO for evidence and go back 5 years to see what he did to EE.

The thing is that he's capable of putting on a good soap but he DELIBERATELY chooses the create this OTT nonsense. He's also got the gift of casting both really rubbish as well as very good actors. Quite unique in a sense.
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Old Yesterday, 10:26
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Dominic Treadwell-Collins, for his bizarre obsession with dismantling the entire younger cast, treating the program like a fan fiction, rewriting history, the proven lies in interviews, making a family based on his own the central characters for 2 years, all just to massage his own ego and appease his band of twitter followers.

Not to mention the crappy stuff like Peggy's exit, that had nothing to do with Eastenders or the characters in it, and everything to do with him and his celebrity mates patting themselves on the back like a glorified circle jerk.

An arrogant producer through and through.

Thanks.
His Carter obsession got out of control. Stuff like basing Johnny on himself was pretty egotistical and making Shirley Mick's mum really took the biscuit.

Plus giving Peggy scenes with them (she knew Shirley but not the others) as well as making Sharon's dad Kathy's husband and re-writing Den and Eric's history. The latter was a major flop and it's no wonder the Gavin storyline has been dropped. Fanfiction as you mention.

Recasting Johnny with this godawful newbie was pointless.
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Sean O'Connor, not for EE but for the Archers where he sacked a long-serving and well-liked actor in one of the major roles..... and gave it instead to one of the senior actor's sons.

Appalling nepotism.

He also made the well-loved soap trashier.
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Old Yesterday, 11:03
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Sean O'Connor, not for EE but for the Archers where he sacked a long-serving and well-liked actor in one of the major roles..... and gave it instead to one of the senior actor's sons.

Appalling nepotism.

He also made the well-loved soap trashier.
Got to admit, Sean O'Connor seems like an utter nob in the Kirkwood mould.
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