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Old Yesterday, 17:18
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Angry people say nasty horrible things, I'm not sure how you can tell skin colour of those commenting though?
You're right, I can't. They obviously aren't black though.
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Old Yesterday, 17:25
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Anyone who perpertrates this kind of attack should be caged for a long long time regardless of skin colour.however facebook make me sick .they seem to dine out on this kind of sick crap.i absolutely abhor Zuckerberg and his paid clowns.the stuff they allow on there is so wrong .my fifteen year old godson is about to create an account and I fear for some of the stuff he may see on there.Facebook seem to glorify violence and allow it to be posted by muppets like these.
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Old Yesterday, 17:29
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That all depends on how the local law defines a 'hate crime'.
Im struggling to imagine how any hate crime law wouldn't cover the horrendous offences witnessed in the video. Can you ?

This is took from a Chicago policemans website :

https://secondcitycop.blogspot.co.uk/?m=1

A person commits hate crime when, by reason of the actual or perceived race, color, creed, religion, ancestry, gender, sexual orientation, physical or mental disability, or national origin of another individual or group of individuals, regardless of the existence of any other motivating factor or factors, he commits assault, battery, aggravated assault, misdemeanor theft, criminal trespass to residence, misdemeanor criminal damage to property, criminal trespass to vehicle, criminal trespass to real property, mob action, disorderly conduct, harassment by telephone, or harassment through electronic communications as these crimes are defined in Sections 12-1, 12-2, 12-3(a), 16-1, 19-4, 21-1, 21-2, 21-3, 25-1, 26-1, 26.5-2, and paragraphs (a)(2) and (a)(5) of Section 26.5-3 of this Code, respectively.

Looks like an open and shut case to me.
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Old Yesterday, 17:29
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Well, Itv have reported that four people have been arrested over the video.

http://www.itv.com/news/2017-01-05/m...ed-with-knife/
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Old Yesterday, 17:32
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Disgusting human beings.

The poor man .
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Old Yesterday, 17:42
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Im struggling to imagine how any hate crime law wouldn't cover the horrendous offences witnessed in the video. Can you ?

This is took from a Chicago policemans website :

https://secondcitycop.blogspot.co.uk/?m=1

A person commits hate crime when, by reason of the actual or perceived race, color, creed, religion, ancestry, gender, sexual orientation, physical or mental disability, or national origin of another individual or group of individuals, regardless of the existence of any other motivating factor or factors, he commits assault, battery, aggravated assault, misdemeanor theft, criminal trespass to residence, misdemeanor criminal damage to property, criminal trespass to vehicle, criminal trespass to real property, mob action, disorderly conduct, harassment by telephone, or harassment through electronic communications as these crimes are defined in Sections 12-1, 12-2, 12-3(a), 16-1, 19-4, 21-1, 21-2, 21-3, 25-1, 26-1, 26.5-2, and paragraphs (a)(2) and (a)(5) of Section 26.5-3 of this Code, respectively.

Looks like an open and shut case to me.
It isn't clear that the false imprisonment/assault on the victim was racially motivated. It seems that the racial element is what was said in the facebook video, which may be a separate crime in its own right. An interesting question that arises is, in the case of the facebook broadcast, if it is a crime then who is the offender when someone is forced under duress to commit the crime?
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Old Yesterday, 17:42
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It just shows that black people can be racist as well.
Anyone can be racist.

The BBC have reported that investigators are seeking to determine whether or not it is sincere or just a stupid ranting and raving.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38514759
WTF? No officer, I didn't mean it sincerely? That kind of thing? They said it and of course it was damned racist and they were hideously cruel. The mentality of people who would do anything like that and stream it live is bloody horrifying.
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Old Yesterday, 18:00
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Anyone can be racist.
Absolutely.
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Old Yesterday, 18:47
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Some of the comments under the articles about this are awful. I read one that says, "Become oppressed for 400 years, then you can Cry foul".
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Old Yesterday, 20:16
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Police about to speak about this case. Live at the link below

http://abc7chicago.com/live/23381/
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Old Yesterday, 20:52
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That poor boy.
They held him for 24 to 48 hours. Who knows what else they did to him. Found wandering in the cold in a pair of shorts.
I doubt he will get over this.
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Old Yesterday, 21:14
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Can we expect a white riot any time soon?

Bit of looting maybe?

No?

No. Maybe not.
Oh do explain this one... are you saying rioting is about skin colour? Amazing in this thread unified against racism this gets slipped in and no one notices.
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Old Yesterday, 21:35
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Oh do explain this one... are you saying rioting is about skin colour? Amazing in this thread unified against racism this gets slipped in and no one notices.
Really?

After what we have seen over the last few years what do you think the reaction would have been over the past 24 hours in both the media and more importantly the local community, had a gang of whites tortured a disabled black man, making him shout F*ck Clinton and F*ck Black people the streamed it live for all to see?
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Old Yesterday, 21:49
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Really?

After what we have seen over the last few years what do you think the reaction would have been over the past 24 hours in both the media and more importantly the local community, had a gang of whites tortured a disabled black man, making him shout F*ck Clinton and F*ck Black people the streamed it live for all to see?
Chicago would be about to burn and the lefties would be saying Trump was to blame.
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Old Yesterday, 22:04
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The people using this horrible incident to jump up and down and say "look look black people can be racist too" are disgustingly transparent, they care for the victim as little as the perpetrators do.
Yeah,that makes sense!
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Old Yesterday, 22:26
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The people using this horrible incident to jump up and down and say "look look black people can be racist too" are disgustingly transparent, they care for the victim as little as the perpetrators do.
Oh dear.
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Old Yesterday, 22:31
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If this were four white people who kidnapped, tortured and racially abused a black then more than a few cities in the US would now be ablaze and in the grip of a rioting and looting epidemic.
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Old Yesterday, 22:41
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The Guardian appears to have accidentally left out the racist language in its most recent report and instead focuses on the anti-Trump political sentiments.
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Old Yesterday, 22:46
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Really?

After what we have seen over the last few years what do you think the reaction would have been over the past 24 hours in both the media and more importantly the local community, had a gang of whites tortured a disabled black man, making him shout F*ck Clinton and F*ck Black people the streamed it live for all to see?
This sort of thing has happened only worse

Unsurprisingly most of us never heard of it. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...plea-deal.html
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Old Yesterday, 22:51
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The Guardian appears to have accidentally left out the racist language in its most recent report and instead focuses on the anti-Trump political sentiments.
Yeah, I noticed that. ITV and the BBC have but The Guardian, as you say, appears to be focusing on what was said about Trump.
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Old Yesterday, 23:26
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Even the Guardian has to face the inevitable.

Now reporting ......."Four suspects charged with hate crimes over beating in Facebook Live video "

Interestingly

"Facebook refuses to explain why live video of attack wasn’t flagged sooner"
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Old Today, 03:34
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Even the Guardian has to face the inevitable.

Now reporting ......."Four suspects charged with hate crimes over beating in Facebook Live video "

Interestingly

"Facebook refuses to explain why live video of attack wasn’t flagged sooner"
You only have to look at the perpetrators Facebook page and the company she keeps to see why.

Although it's a bit difficult now to see the older comments as it has been flooded by trolls and racists on both sides.
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Old Today, 03:50
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Oh do explain this one... are you saying rioting is about skin colour? Amazing in this thread unified against racism this gets slipped in and no one notices.
Amazing for the unaware maybe. But there have been several incidents over the last few months in towns and cities where rioting and violence took place and some black people have been caught looking for white people to attack, and then literally violently actually attacking them.
This cannot be denied.
And to make a point of this does not make the person in any way racist, because people of all races are equally against these actions too.
Sometimes it's a mistake to believe that people live up to your deepest pessimistic view of them. Most often it's the case that people abhor this kind of attack where racial identity is involved independently of which way around the races involved are.
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