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There's a lot of potential with some good characters but they need to stop going around in small circles. There are never any consequences to their actions so they keep repeating the same bad behaviour.
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Emmerdale is nothing like Hollyoaks?
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Quality writing doesn't have to mean greater expense though.Well developed storylines that evole at a more realistic pace would 'pay dividends' in terms of viewer loyalty and reduce the sense that 'anything is good enough' which further devalues the brand of the programme.
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Quality writing doesn't have to mean greater expense though.Well developed storylines that evole at a more realistic pace would 'pay dividends' in terms of viewer loyalty and reduce the sense that 'anything is good enough' which further devalues the brand of the programme.
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Emmerdale is nothing like Hollyoaks?
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I mute the ads or change channels, they'll have to be smarter to catch this viewer.
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I mute the ads or change channels, they'll have to be smarter to catch this viewer.
![]() However it is an incontrovertible fact that ads do work, hence the incredibly huge amounts of money companies spend on them, irrespective of whether you and I see them.
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It's still a quality soap and IMO the best and the one I've stuck with whilst completely giving up the rest.
However I can see the OP's concerns, There does seem to be an imbalance. The Ashley story, Rhona/Pearce, The Bartons/Moira (minus the Moira and Pete stuff) and some of the other things are good but some filler stuff needs to stop. Finn and Kasim were boring, and felt there was no chemistry there. Kerry is super annoying, the forthcoming Debbie stuff doesn't fill me with joy as I don't liker her character. There just needs to be some fine tuning in places and silly stuff needs to stop. When Kate Oats was in charge, there was comedy but it wasn't as much and only when required. Now I feel it's deliberately put in to offset the doom and gloom but it isn't of a high quality. There are more positives than negatives though.
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It's hilarious the amount of threads now criticising ED, you'd think it was winning all the awards or something?!
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It's hilarious the amount of threads now criticising ED, you'd think it was winning all the awards or something?!
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Even when Emmerdale is bad, I still feel like it's better than the other soaps. On the whole I'm happy with the show. Not too sure about the current EP, though.
But yes, I do agree to an extent in terms of how certain characters dominate the show, whilst others are given nothing to do. Let's face it, characters like the Dingle clan will always be favoured over any other family so no chance of it changing any time soon. We just have to accept that the writers like to focus on the criminal element in the village more than the normal everyday characters. |
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I don't think the problem is the characters. It's the repetitive stories. People are quick to say the Dingles get over used - in fact it's s only really Chas, Aaron and Debbie, when she's s here, who get huge amounts of screen time. All they would do is give the Barton's the same repetitive stories if they axed the Dingles - they already do that with Cain ad Ross, except it's s happening over a much shorter period of time with Ross and comes across as more lightweight.However, it's s very easy to blame' the characters you don't like - but sadly as we all like and dislike different characters, so we have to put up with our dislikes and hope the stories get better!
Of course there are only so many stories to use but ED often has several characters with really similar stories at the same time |
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Not really, Ross has gone from trying to kill people to being a good dad to Moses and making up with Pete, whilst being there to comfort the mother who tried to kill him.
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True bit he seems intent on sleeping with half the Village
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It definitely does, and that is coming from someone who is actually enjoying it more than last year.
When it's on, it's on. The dementia storyline among others are well written, well researched and well acted. Then there's a lot of lightweight, mindless drivel to fill in the gaps as though all of the effort is being put into the good storylines. It's like they're alternating between good, character driven stories and sensationalist and outlandish plots to see what works best. When it's actually more likely the case that the other stories are an attempt to liven up the show from it's "darker" episodes. But what you actually get is a jarring experience with massive dips in quality every now and again. The Zak & Lisa thing seems to be an example of a major difference of opinion between soap producers, but also seems to have been put on the B-side of the stories to make it look less like backtracking. Or something. I know what I mean! ![]() |
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That's not a major issue though given most of the village do the same
![]() . Herpesgate - Emmerdale's next big storyline, I can't wait.
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It's only a matter of time before someone catches Herpes from Kerry and causes an epidemic in the village
. Herpesgate - Emmerdale's next big storyline, I can't wait. ![]()
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I think it's still enjoyable to a degree, but it's been better. The show does need to be utilising it's cast more for storylines, the storylines and writing needs to step up a bit. It may be my favourite soap, but it isn't the one I'm enjoying most at the moment
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It definitely does, and that is coming from someone who is actually enjoying it more than last year.
When it's on, it's on. The dementia storyline among others are well written, well researched and well acted. Then there's a lot of lightweight, mindless drivel to fill in the gaps as though all of the effort is being put into the good storylines. It's like they're alternating between good, character driven stories and sensationalist and outlandish plots to see what works best. When it's actually more likely the case that the other stories are an attempt to liven up the show from it's "darker" episodes. But what you actually get is a jarring experience with massive dips in quality every now and again. The Zak & Lisa thing seems to be an example of a major difference of opinion between soap producers, but also seems to have been put on the B-side of the stories to make it look less like backtracking. Or something. I know what I mean! ![]() Quote:
When they do it right Emmerdale is superb. Last night the Pierce Rhona stuff was chilling to watch. Classic excellent Emmerdale.
However the Zak /Lisa shite in contrast was abysmal Something just feels 'off' with the programme at the moment. The poor attempts at humour (Paddy being continually slapped) feel desperate, when it was always more shrewd and natural under Oates. Ross keeps being inserted into scenes where he just doesn't belong (the dad dancing scene with Rebecca in the caff and his interference with Marlon and Paddy's conversation seemed jarring to me and so out of character for Ross.) Kerry was great under Oates - a more realistic balance of inappropriate but caring. Now she's just beyond unbearable. If someone must be slapped in the show, she would be my number one candidate. |
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This is how I feel about it.
Spot on. Something just feels 'off' with the programme at the moment. The poor attempts at humour (Paddy being continually slapped) feel desperate, when it was always more shrewd and natural under Oates. Ross keeps being inserted into scenes where he just doesn't belong (the dad dancing scene with Rebecca in the caff and his interference with Marlon and Paddy's conversation seemed jarring to me and so out of character for Ross.) Kerry was great under Oates - a more realistic balance of inappropriate but caring. Now she's just beyond unbearable. If someone must be slapped in the show, she would be my number one candidate. |
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It's only a matter of time before someone catches Herpes from Kerry and causes an epidemic in the village
. Herpesgate - Emmerdale's next big storyline, I can't wait. ![]() ![]()
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I mute the ads or change channels, they'll have to be smarter to catch this viewer.
![]() Actually I have to do that because by the time I've got home from work, made tea etc it's about 7.30-7.45. But I would still record it and watch it later anyway for the reasons I've mentioned.
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Sadly, I watched tonight (still going) live which is not usual for me and I think it is absolute ********* (fill in your own expletive!)
The pairing and non-pairing and angst of couples is just awfully boring in my humble opinion. |
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PS Kerry is "young and beautiful"??????
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This Rebecca/Aaron/Robert bullshit is putting me off the show, not only do they have no chemistry with eachother, its also a sl going nowhere. Its just to show the "robron fandom" that Robert is a changed man and that he will reject the pretty blonde girl for the love of his life..zzzzzz
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Cheap quantity will always win out over expensive quality when money and profit are the only real considerations, as we have already seen. Nothing to be done about it unfortunately.
Although personally I am now actually reading books more than I'm watching tv and loving it, so it's an ill wind and all that. ![]() ![]() Quote:
It's still a quality soap and IMO the best and the one I've stuck with whilst completely giving up the rest.
However I can see the OP's concerns, There does seem to be an imbalance. The Ashley story, Rhona/Pearce, The Bartons/Moira (minus the Moira and Pete stuff) and some of the other things are good but some filler stuff needs to stop. Finn and Kasim were boring, and felt there was no chemistry there. Kerry is super annoying, the forthcoming Debbie stuff doesn't fill me with joy as I don't liker her character. There just needs to be some fine tuning in places and silly stuff needs to stop. When Kate Oats was in charge, there was comedy but it wasn't as much and only when required. Now I feel it's deliberately put in to offset the doom and gloom but it isn't of a high quality. There are more positives than negatives though. ![]() Quote:
Ross had been a really weird character since Ian Macleod took over. Over the past year all he's done is shag people and be put into really cheesy/forced scenes with characters like Paddy and Marlon, like you said.
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Actually I have to do that because by the time I've got home from work, made tea etc it's about 7.30-7.45. But I would still record it and watch it later anyway for the reasons I've mentioned.