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RebelScum
06-01-2017
Originally Posted by macca@90:
“I was next in to the GP and I hope he didn't think that smell was coming from me ”

He did and he made a note of it. It's now on your permanent record.
D_Mcd4
06-01-2017
Since when did washing and putting on clothes become 'snobbish'? Lol
anne_666
06-01-2017
Originally Posted by D_Mcd4:
“Since when did washing and putting on clothes become 'snobbish'? Lol”

Apparently it's all Tony Blair's fault
piggypug
06-01-2017
Yeah, doesn't take long to throw on a pair of leggings and a top
TrollHunter
06-01-2017
Originally Posted by D_Mcd4:
“Since when did washing and putting on clothes become 'snobbish'? Lol”

You may scoff but these days it's a race to the bottom. Pretty soon, eating with cutlery will be an activity reserved solely for 'toffs', washing will be considered an arrogant show of pretentious behaviour, and those who wipe their arses properly will be heaped in scorn and derision.
MinnieMinz
06-01-2017
I went out in my slippers once at 8pm at night, as I was craving a hot choc and needed more milk. Decided to walk the dog with me and only when I bumped into my neighbour who said "nice slippers" did I realise I had my giant pink fluffy bunny slippers on. I considered walking back and getting changed but was half way there, so styled it out, head high
scottie2121
06-01-2017
Originally Posted by Nakatomi:
“Indeed, I think people would be hard pressed to figure out which of these products are pyjamas and which are casual wear:

http://asset1.cxnmarksandspencer.com/is/image/mands/SD_03_T07_3090_F4_X_EC_0?$PLP_PRODUCT_IMAGE$

http://blog.gotapparel.com/wp-conten...13/12/gdff.png

Very similar, aren't they? So how would anyone know?”

The fact that items are marketed as pyjamas is a giveaway as is they're found in the night night department.
scottie2121
06-01-2017
Originally Posted by Woodbine:
“Good on these people for having self confidence to do this and not caring what snobbish people think, they're not doing any harm.

Personally not something I would ever do, but I'm not going to judge other people.”

I don't think it's about having self-confidence, it's more a case of 'am i bovvered'.
Moany Liza
06-01-2017
Originally Posted by Nakatomi:
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Again, you're just showing how horrible you are. You have no idea if they are lazy, and wearing pyjamas does not make you a slob. I would much rather be wearing my pyjamas than be such a vile, hateful little person judging everybody I see by their appearance.”

This is you not being judgmental, is it?

No - wearing pyjamas does not make one a slob. Wearing pyjamas in order to go shopping in a public space DOES make you one though.
macca@90
06-01-2017
Originally Posted by RebelScum:
“He did and he made a note of it. It's now on your permanent record.”

LOL
Harvey_Specter
06-01-2017
Originally Posted by Moany Liza:
“This is you not being judgmental, is it?

No - wearing pyjamas does not make one a slob. Wearing pyjamas in order to go shopping in a public space DOES make you one though.”

No it doesnt.
Moany Liza
06-01-2017
Originally Posted by TrollHunter:
“Interesting view. Why do you think we need to judge each others? Surely judging people is a sanctimonious act, only ever benefiting the person doing the judging, so it's arrogance too. And the judgement is based solely on the individual (social class, moral compass, level of empathy), so one person will judge a person in a negative way while someone else judges them in a less negative way, perhaps even in a positive way.

Judging people is the cause of so much misery.”

Judging is perfectly normal. It's how we all make sense of the world around us. We look at what is happening in our vicinity and respond to it, sometimes favourably and sometimes not.

An example: If you see someone marching along the road, looking angry and carrying a baseball bat, you might feel very wary of him and it would be wise to do so. You might even decide to cross the road to make sure your path doesn't cross with his because he could be dangerous. He could be perfectly innocent - he may just have bought the baseball bat and may have just taken a phone call to say that his garden shed has been burgled!

Making judgments is a perfectly sensible and normal process but some people seem to imbue it with entirely negative connotations - or mistakenly associate it with snobbery. Making judgments can, in certain situations, keep you safe from harm. People who pretend that they don't judge other people are in denial. We all make judgements on other people all day, every day - even on a subconscious level. To deny otherwise is naive and simply an attempt to deflect any criticism from oneself.

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johnF1971
06-01-2017
Originally Posted by Nakatomi:
“Indeed, I think people would be hard pressed to figure out which of these products are pyjamas and which are casual wear:

http://asset1.cxnmarksandspencer.com/is/image/mands/SD_03_T07_3090_F4_X_EC_0?$PLP_PRODUCT_IMAGE$

http://blog.gotapparel.com/wp-conten...13/12/gdff.png

Very similar, aren't they? So how would anyone know?”

I agree. A lot of modern pyjamas are essentially a t-shirt and jogging bottoms.

Many stores also do a range of clothing called "loungewear" which is basically the same thing again. Do those who object to people shopping in pyjamas feel the same way about loungewear.

I don't really understand the objection some people have to pyjamas being "dirty". Surely clothing that had only been worn in bed or inside the house would be cleaner than clothing which had been worn outside all day particularly if you'd been doing manual work or sport.

My main reason for not wearing pyjamas or loungewear to the shops would be that I wouldn't like the idea of my nice clean indoor clothes picking up dirt from outside, not the other way round!
Harvey_Specter
06-01-2017
Originally Posted by johnF1971:
“I agree. A lot of modern pyjamas are essentially a t-shirt and jogging bottoms.

Many stores also do a range of clothing called "loungewear" which is basically the same thing again. Do those who object to people shopping in pyjamas feel the same way about loungewear.

I don't really understand the objection some people have to pyjamas being "dirty". Surely clothing that had only been worn in bed or inside the house would be cleaner than clothing which had been worn outside all day particularly if you'd been doing manual work or sport.

My main reason for not wearing pyjamas or loungewear to the shops would be that I wouldn't like the idea of my nice clean indoor clothes picking up dirt from outside, not the other way round!”

Well indeed, but shhh don't tell anyone. The people in their pyjamas are far grubbier than someone just finishing work. Shhhhh!
johnF1971
06-01-2017
Originally Posted by Moany Liza:
“An example: If you see someone marching along the road, looking angry and carrying a baseball bat, you might feel very wary of him and it would be wise to do so. You might even decide to cross the road to make sure your path doesn't cross with his because he could be dangerous. He could be perfectly innocent - he may just have bought the baseball bat and may have just taken a phone call to say that his garden shed has been burgled!

Making judgments is a perfectly sensible and normal process but some people seem to imbue it with entirely negative connotations - or mistakenly associate it with snobbery. Making judgments can, in certain situations, keep you safe from harm. ”

Agreed that in your example of an angry man with baseball bat, making a judgement would be a sensible thing to do.

In what way does judging someone who wears pyjamas outside the house keep you safe from harm though?
mickmars
06-01-2017
lazy no class chavvy slobs
Moany Liza
06-01-2017
Originally Posted by johnF1971:
“Agreed that in your example of an angry man with baseball bat, making a judgement would be a sensible thing to do.

In what way does judging someone who wears pyjamas outside the house keep you safe from harm though? ”

I think I explained very clearly that making judgments is a normal human response and is something we all do all the time so there is no point in twisting the example I gave of making judgments of other people in order to imply that I said something which I did not, about the specific issue of wearing pyjamas in public places.

I have very little patience for people (not you, in case you were wondering) who claim liberal and egalitarian attitudes, insist that they don't make judgments about other people and then in the next breath make some hugely judgmental comment or criticism of someone else's behaviour or opinions.

I bet there is not a single person on this forum who can honestly say that they have never formed some sort of judgment on the behaviour, appearance or other aspect of another individual.
MinnieMinz
06-01-2017
Originally Posted by Nakatomi:
“Perhaps that they simply don't care about what other people think? Your use of the term "lazy" and "chav" is quite offensive actually. You are making judgments that aren't yours to make.



Err, how does wearing PJs mean they lack self respect? What you mean is they lack your respect. And seeing as you are a nobody on an internet forum, I really doubt they care what you think.



Again, you're just showing how horrible you are. You have no idea if they are lazy, and wearing pyjamas does not make you a slob. I would much rather be wearing my pyjamas than be such a vile, hateful little person judging everybody I see by their appearance.



That's the biggest reach I've ever seen in an attempt to bash Tony Blair! Congrats to you!”

Why must your posts always be so rude, aggressive and insulting. Telling posters they are ignorant, vile and nasty doesn't make for good debate. I don't have an issue with someone being poorly maybe nipping out in the pjs. I've seen women with rollers in their hair shopping and getting ready for a bit night out. I've worn my slippers out before by mistake. Some people are lazy, some cannot be bothered, and people are allowed to comment on that. That's what a forum is for without constant personal abuse from you.
Ella Nut
06-01-2017
It's not something I would ever think of doing. Back in my youth if someone was spotted in a supermarket in their jammies you'd be forgiven for thinking they'd maybe escaped from a secure unit, that's how bizarre it would have seemed to everyone else.
IJoinedInMay
06-01-2017
Originally Posted by JulesF:
“It's perfectly logical to put it down to either laziness or attention-seeking. What other explanation is there other than they are lazy, skanky chavs?”

I'd describe laziness as failing to do a necessary task because you can't be bothered. There's no necessity in wearing clothes that match the personal views of others in order to buy milk from the supermarket. Wearing pyjamas doesn't make that task more difficult for the person wearing them, nor others.

People who wear all sorts of clothes can be dirty. A bloke wearing a suit may not have had a proper wash for a week. whereas the pyjama wearer may have showered before popping down to Tesco. Unless you live with that person, how can you know? It's merely an assumption, and an odd one too IMO.
D_Mcd4
06-01-2017
Originally Posted by IJoinedInMay:
“I'd describe laziness as failing to do a necessary task because you can't be bothered. There's no necessity in wearing clothes that match the personal views of others in order to buy milk from the supermarket. Wearing pyjamas doesn't make that task more difficult for the person wearing them, nor others.

People who wear all sorts of clothes can be dirty. A bloke wearing a suit may not have had a proper wash for a week. whereas the pyjama wearer may have showered before popping down to Tesco. Unless you live with that person, how can you know? It's merely an assumption, and an odd one too IMO.”

Not that odd to imagine that anyone who can't be bothered to dress can't be bothered to wash either.
IJoinedInMay
06-01-2017
Originally Posted by D_Mcd4:
“Not that odd to imagine that anyone who can't be bothered to dress can't be bothered to wash either.”

They are dressed, they're wearing clothes.
D_Mcd4
06-01-2017
Originally Posted by IJoinedInMay:
“They are dressed, they're wearing clothes.”

Oh dear.
CappySpectrum
06-01-2017
Originally Posted by mickmars:
“lazy no class chavvy slobs”

Apparently that makes you a snob with such a view. LOL!

The way some people come up with their views on snobs is quite frightening. I guess you don't have to have dignity if you go out in public with pyjamas.
Harvey_Specter
06-01-2017
Originally Posted by mickmars:
“lazy no class chavvy slobs”

So is that sentence.

So, so lazy. You must be a chavvy slob too.
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