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Can the 17 million who voted leave trust the BBC to report fairly on Brexit ? |
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Can the 17 million who voted leave trust the BBC to report fairly on Brexit ?
The mounting evidence of the lack of impartiality by our state broadcaster concerning Brexit must call into question the justification of continuing with the TV tax.
After all, if the BBC is not representing the interests of the people who voted for Brexit then why should they be forced to buy a licence.? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7510436.html |
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All Governments attack and threaten the BBC in order to get them on 'their' side. It's an old trick, don't fall for it.
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Maybe the compulsory licence fee should be abolished - if people think the licence fee is worth it to watch the BBC they will pay for it.
It's a blanket regressive poll tax which hits the poor hardest - a tv may be the only form of entertainment they can afford. But they still have to pay it unless they are over 75 or disabled. Sky News, Al Jazeera and RT are available on freeview. |
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Yawn....it was the BBC that broke the story about the EU Ambassador's comments about Brexit taking 10 Years.
Nigel Farage has countless times been on the BBC airing his opinions despite not being an elected MP and his party achieving less than 10% of the vote at the General Election. Almost every morning on Radio 5 pro-brexit business leaders appear. I thought Brexit was about Britain taking back control yet Mrs May chooses to stick her head up the backside of an American, whose media companies have been involved in hacking the phones of British people and has been accused of corrupting public officials. To me this is just a resurrection of that other thread that was closed down for going off topic and going round in circles. |
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All Governments attack and threaten the BBC in order to get them on 'their' side. It's an old trick, don't fall for it.
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After all, if the BBC is not representing the interests of the people who voted for Brexit then why should they be forced to buy a licence.?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7510436.html |
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Yes
The BBC is not the mouthpiece of the Government, however much the political right wish it to be so. |
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The BBC is not the mouthpiece of the Government, however much the political right wish it to be so. That's why they put out so much untrue propaganda for their Labour friends when they wanted to go to war with Iraq. |
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Nigel Farage has countless times been on the BBC airing his opinions despite not being an elected MP and his party achieving less than 10% of the vote at the General Election.
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Nigel Farage has countless times been on the BBC airing his opinions despite not being an elected MP and his party achieving less than 10% of the vote at the General Election.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Result...election,_2015 |
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The mounting evidence of the lack of impartiality by our state broadcaster concerning Brexit must call into question the justification of continuing with the TV tax.
After all, if the BBC is not representing the interests of the people who voted for Brexit then why should they be forced to buy a licence.? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7510436.html |
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But even if it's 20%, should the opinion of a minority automatically given equal time and weight to a party that has polled almost 3 times as many votes? |
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The mounting evidence of the lack of impartiality by our state broadcaster concerning Brexit must call into question the justification of continuing with the TV tax.
After all, if the BBC is not representing the interests of the people who voted for Brexit then why should they be forced to buy a licence.? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7510436.html |
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Apologises I meant less than 10% of the 46,420,413 electorate.
But even if it's 20%, should the opinion of a minority automatically given equal time and weight to a party that has polled almost 3 times as many votes? |
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Apologises I meant less than 10% of the 46,420,413 electorate.
But even if it's 20%, should the opinion of a minority automatically given equal time and weight to a party that has polled almost 3 times as many votes? If you're factoring in people who didn't vote in an attempt to make a point, that is. |
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I really don't see the problem. The BBC is very pro EU bar Andrew Neil. The Express and Daily Mail are Anti EU. So it balances itself out. Do you expect organisations like the BBC that receives EU money and is a proponent of Globalisation and multi-multiculturalism to remain neutral? Do you expect the Daily Mail - a staunchly British paper to remain neutral? This is the real world.
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From the linked article: Quote:
Andrew Rosindell tabled a motion criticising the BBC for failing to play the national anthem at the end of programming every day in honour of Brexit.
Good grief!
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I really don't see the problem. The BBC is very pro EU bar Andrew Neil. The Express and Daily Mail are Anti EU. So it balances itself out. Do you expect organisations like the BBC that receives EU money and is a proponent of Globalisation and multi-multiculturalism to remain neutral?
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The mounting evidence of the lack of impartiality by our state broadcaster concerning Brexit must call into question the justification of continuing with the TV tax.
After all, if the BBC is not representing the interests of the people who voted for Brexit then why should they be forced to buy a licence.? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7510436.html Only today we've had a thread about good PMI numbers from a BBC story. Just because they don't ban bad news as so many Brexiters seem to want isn't evidence of bias. If they show too much bad news for you that might be because there's too much bad news about. You won, get over it. |
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Tory MPs whining is not "mounting evidence".
Only today we've had a thread about good PMI numbers from a BBC story. Just because they don't ban bad news as so many Brexiters seem to want isn't evidence of bias. If they show too much bad news for you that might be because there's too much bad news about. You won, get over it. |
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After all, if the BBC is not representing the interests of the people who voted for Brexit then why should they be forced to buy a licence.?
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The BBC is neutral.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/is-the...-corbyn-2016-9 https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live |
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Ooh look, another BBC-bashing thread. We haven't had one of those for nearly 48 hours!
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Maybe the compulsory licence fee should be abolished - if people think the licence fee is worth it to watch the BBC they will pay for it.
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-...t-bbc-services Quote:
It's a blanket regressive poll tax which hits the poor hardest - a tv may be the only form of entertainment they can afford. But they still have to pay it unless they are over 75 or disabled.
Sky News, Al Jazeera and RT are available on freeview. Freeview provides a lot of other commercial channels too, but even if Freeview was unavailable and only subscriptions to Sky etc were, then it would still cost far in excess of only having to pay the TV Licence and there would still be at least 12 minutes of commercials every hour ! I'd gladly pay the £146 (40p a day) for the privilege of having commercial-free channels which provide high quality programming. In Germany the cost of their TV Licence is automatically added to their electricity bills. That could probably be an alternative way of financing the BBC. The impartiality laws in the UK probably need to more strongly enforced and more transparent so that we can see them in action. The BBC comes for a lot of stick about bias reporting, but I think the fact that they've given a lot of airtime to Nigel Farage over the past couple of years goes some way to negating that. |
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A deprivation study where volunteers chose not to have access to BBC services demonstrated that quality commercial-free broadcasting is more popular than even with those who initially say they don't need it:
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-...t-bbc-services And BBC services are available on Freesat because a TV Licence is compulsory for watching TV. Freeview provides a lot of other commercial channels too, but even if Freeview was unavailable and only subscriptions to Sky etc were, then it would still cost far in excess of only having to pay the TV Licence and there would still be at least 12 minutes of commercials every hour ! I'd gladly pay the £146 (40p a day) for the privilege of having commercial-free channels which provide high quality programming. In Germany the cost of their TV Licence is automatically added to their electricity bills. That could probably be an alternative way of financing the BBC. The impartiality laws in the UK probably need to more strongly enforced and more transparent so that we can see them in action. The BBC comes for a lot of stick about bias reporting, but I think the fact that they've given a lot of airtime to Nigel Farage over the past couple of years goes some way to negating that. Why not give people a choice though - why force people to pay the licence? If people don't pay then they are blocked from watching BBC channels but can watch commercial ones for free on freeview. Their choice! |
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