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Old Today, 00:42
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I think what we can all agree on is there should never be a referendum on making the BBC pay-per-view. If Brexit has taught us anything, the results could cause an actual civil war if the the UK votes to put the BBC behind a paywall .
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Old Today, 00:44
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Why should they? Just because you say so? I used to be supportive of the BBC, now I would happy to see its demise.
...because it is a British public service which makes a huge contribution to our national life, our economy and our creative arts sectors. I suspect you were always anti for some bizarre reason. Give me the BBC over any other outlet any day of the week. Want quality? Forget the commercial sector.
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I think what we can all agree on is there should never be a referendum on making the BBC pay-per-view. If Brexit has taught us anything, the results could cause an actual civil war if the the UK votes to put the BBC behind a paywall .
Definitely not. The BBC is a public service and it should remain so. Given the fact the British public got it wrong re: Brexit, they certainly can't be trusted re: the Beeb.
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...because it is a British public service which makes a huge contribution to our national life, our economy and our creative arts sectors. I suspect you were always anti for some bizarre reason. Give me the BBC over any other outlet any day of the week. Want quality? Forget the commercial sector.
You suspect wrong.

The scales have fallen from my eyes and I now see the BBC for what it is.
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Old Today, 00:55
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Definitely not. The BBC is a public service and it should remain so. Given the fact the British public got it wrong re: Brexit, they certainly can't be trusted re: the Beeb.

I agree but it's funding shouldn't be via a licence fee, it should be out of taxation (local or general) like the rest of our public services.
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I agree but it's funding shouldn't be via a licence fee, it should be out of taxation (local or general) like the rest of our public services.
The BBC has always been funded by the licence fee to ensure it's commercial and political independence. You fund it out of taxation and it immediately loses it's political independence. The NHS is very political. Why? because it is essentially funded out of taxation. If I was in govt, I would be pushing for a 'licence fee funding' type formula for the NHS too. It is the best way.
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You suspect wrong.

The scales have fallen from my eyes and I now see the BBC for what it is.
Well you are wrong in the conclusions you draw. You are another one who screams 'bias' the minute your viewpoint is challenged. You should expect the BBC to challenge your viewpoint.
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If you choose to ignore BBC News articles telling true facts till we are blue in the face in relation to the UK leaving the EU because you disbelieve them because they don't meet your political opinions or political agenda.

And then you realise that the BBC were telling the truth all along once the UK has left the EU, don't blame everybody but yourselves when tnings don't turn out to be anywhere near as great or far worse than how you thought they would work out.

It's Sky News plus the all their fellow right wing printed media who either ignore or fail to cover what the BBC did or were all quick to rubbish or lambast any true facts about the UK leaving about how bad things would turn out i.e. mass poverty and even worse austerity still because it didn't reflect their agenda that the Uk leaving would see the UK soon becoming the land of milk and honey.

People fell for the right wing campaign and press in the referendum and so need to accept the consequences when it all goes pear shape.
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Are you indeed. Well I'm not. I'm not interested at all in American companies who don't contribute a thing to our British creative arts sectors never-mind their complete lack of public service.

Re: Channel 5. Whether you care about Channel 5 is irrelevant. You are required to fund their content if you buy certain products. Fair?

Yes the BBC is far and away the best of British. Broad UK quality content all free from ads. Reflect on this, if it wasn't for the BBC, the commercial sector (and I include your Netflixes and Amazons) would be far worse.

It's not very patriotic of you to take that tone regarding the BBC. As a British citizen, I take great offence at your tone. I see you are doing more of the 'the BBC challenges the views I believe in therefore it's biased' business. Well done. The BBC is balanced.
I didn't mention anything about American companies, who for the record employ millions round the world giving wages to their workers which they use to feed their families, including many in Britain. Without them you would starve in the streets.

It isn't my money that's funding C5, it's business that pay for their own adverts.

Adverts don't have any affect on the quality of a TV show, they are actually very convenient for toilet breaks imo.

It isn't patriotic being a proud remoaner either and I haven't complained about the BBC's impartiality whatsoever. I actually support the deregulation of the media anyway as I'm very Libertarian.
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The BBC has always been funded by the licence fee to ensure it's commercial and political independence. You fund it out of taxation and it immediately loses it's political independence. The NHS is very political. Why? because it is essentially funded out of taxation. If I was in govt, I would be pushing for a 'licence fee funding' type formula for the NHS too. It is the best way.
Seeing as it's always been funded that way then how do you know it would lose its commercial and political independence due to taxation?


You can't compare to the NHS, that's a huge monster to fund.
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I didn't mention anything about American companies, who for the record employ millions round the world giving wages to their workers which they use to feed their families, including many in Britain. Without them you would starve in the streets.

It isn't my money that's funding C5, it's business that pay for their own adverts.

Adverts don't have any affect on the quality of a TV show, they are actually very convenient for toilet breaks imo.

It isn't patriotic being a proud remoaner either and I haven't complained about the BBC's impartiality whatsoever. I actually support the deregulation of the media anyway as I'm very Libertarian.
You didn't, but I did. I don't want to be run by American conglomerates. I won't mention the appalling conditions Amazon's workers work in, I will leave that for another occasion. Safe to say, they aren't great.

You are paying for Channel 5 indirectly through the products you buy. Whilst I don't have Sky (and never would on principle), I still fund their content indirectly.

Adverts have a negative impact on the aesthetic experience from the viewers' point of view. They are jarring and annoying, ruining the viewing experience in the process.

I am a proud Remoaner. It is patriotic to want the best for the UK...that is to remain within the EU.

We need more regulation not less.
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If you choose to ignore BBC News articles telling true facts till we are blue in the face in relation to the UK leaving the EU because you disbelieve them because they don't meet your political opinions or political agenda.

And then you realise that the BBC were telling the truth all along once the UK has left the EU, don't blame everybody but yourselves when tnings don't turn out to be anywhere near as great or far worse than how you thought they would work out.

It's Sky News plus the all their fellow right wing printed media who either ignore or fail to cover what the BBC did or were all quick to rubbish or lambast any true facts about the UK leaving about how bad things would turn out i.e. mass poverty and even worse austerity still because it didn't reflect their agenda that the Uk leaving would see the UK soon becoming the land of milk and honey.

People fell for the right wing campaign and press in the referendum and so need to accept the consequences when it all goes pear shape.
This is very true. The ill-informed fell for the Brexit campaign/supporting right-wing press hook line and sinker. Be in no doubt, when it all goes belly up, the proprietors of The Mail, The Express, The Telegraph, The Sun will be just fine. The negative impact will be felt by joe public.
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Seeing as it's always been funded that way then how do you know it would lose its commercial and political independence due to taxation?


You can't compare to the NHS, that's a huge monster to fund.
...because it's obvious. Funding method dictates output.

Why not? Essentially all public services exist for the same purpose: to serve the public.
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...because it's obvious. Funding method dictates output.

Why not? Essentially all public services exist for the same purpose: to serve the public.
BIB, explain how in the case of the BBC via taxation, a method which hasn't been used before..

BNIB, yes I know that and it wasn't my point.
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The Daily Mail/Mail On Sunday, The Sun, Sky News, Telegraph and The Express are all 100 times more partial than the BBC News will ever be, yet somehow people think that the BBC News are the only partial or by far the most partial of all the UK press.

All the other press I've mentioned have taken the far right hard Brexit stance from day 1. How does that make them all impartial? Yet the BBC cops it for just simply reporting the news.
I choose to buy the Mail and Express. I can't choose to have a TV and not pay the license fee. Are you getting it yet??

Definitely not. The BBC is a public service and it should remain so. Given the fact the British public got it wrong re: Brexit, they certainly can't be trusted re: the Beeb.
There you go again with your sneering, elitist, holier-than-thou attitude. It must burn you up so much that 52% of the voters put you in your place. Why don't you join Trevgo when he leaves the UK seeing as you hate the result so much?!
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...... Any county (?) that resembles the far left socialist/communist BBC (?) and it's far left supporters (?) doesn't deserve to breathe oxygen.
There's a reason why Americans executed those on the far left of the political spectrum in the 1950s.
I wonder, would you mind naming, say, half a dozen 'on the far left of the political spectrum'
who were put to death by the US State in the 50s?

I'm assuming its an aspect of the disgraceful blot on American culture,
the McCarthy witch-hunts, that has passed me by despite being alive at the time.
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I'm more of a Netflix guy as well as Amazon Prime Video. I couldn't care about Channel 5 and their content as I'm not required to pay them £145 for switching a TV on.

And the BBC the best of British? Lord I hope not! If that is the case then I'm leaving ASAP and I hope some other country nukes the UK. Any county that resembles the far left socialist/communist BBC and it's far left supporters doesn't deserve to breathe oxygen. There's a reason why Americans executed those on the far left of the political spectrum in the 1950s.
What a totally bizarre post. Communist BBC? I've heard it all now.
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Adverts don't have any affect on the quality of a TV show,
Many would disagree.
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If you choose to ignore BBC News articles telling true facts till we are blue in the face in relation to the UK leaving the EU because you disbelieve them because they don't meet your political opinions or political agenda.

And then you realise that the BBC were telling the truth all along once the UK has left the EU, don't blame everybody but yourselves when tnings don't turn out to be anywhere near as great or far worse than how you thought they would work out.

It's Sky News plus the all their fellow right wing printed media who either ignore or fail to cover what the BBC did or were all quick to rubbish or lambast any true facts about the UK leaving about how bad things would turn out i.e. mass poverty and even worse austerity still because it didn't reflect their agenda that the Uk leaving would see the UK soon becoming the land of milk and honey.

People fell for the right wing campaign and press in the referendum and so need to accept the consequences when it all goes pear shape.
In all fairness Sky News is balanced like the BBC because they are bound by Ofcom impartiality rules. This fact is why it is hilarious when Sky News report the same stories as the BBC regarding Brexit. Check the comments from Brexiters on the Facebook feed. "Oh give it a rest Sky News you are obviously biased against Brexit". Blah blah blah. This is how deluded they are.
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