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Unread 07-01-2017, 01:02
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And to be part of the SM you have to have FOM so yes it is forced.
And being part of the UK Scotland & Wales free movement of people from England, 60m people free to take the jobs from Scots & Welsh people. A day doesn't go by without a report of someone English killing or raping, and there is nothing Scotland & Wales can do to stop those English criminals crossing into their countries.
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Unread 07-01-2017, 03:15
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Not a fan of these phone in radio shows where the presenter has an agenda, whatever side you are on, but if you phone in you should be aware and prepared to accept that you are going to have to answer the questions and be put on the spot, and perhaps made fun off
Alway remember an incident in my youth, listening to Claire Raynor,agony aunt, phone in, and a guy I knew, and was friendly with, came on Air, he was having marital problems and admitted that in a really bad argument he had hit his wife, this had caused a complete breakdown in the relationship (understandably) and he was devastated by his actions.
well Claire R completely rubbished him on Air, told him to ***off in no uncertain terms, he did not even deserved to be listened to.
A few days later this guy committed suicide, (don't know if this contributed to his dispair) but it made me question the whole point of these phone in shows.
Sorry this probably irrelevant to the point but as others have said, embarrassing people on Air does not really further any discussion.
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Unread 07-01-2017, 08:59
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Not a fan of these phone in radio shows where the presenter has an agenda, whatever side you are on, but if you phone in you should be aware and prepared to accept that you are going to have to answer the questions and be put on the spot, and perhaps made fun off
Alway remember an incident in my youth, listening to Claire Raynor,agony aunt, phone in, and a guy I knew, and was friendly with, came on Air, he was having marital problems and admitted that in a really bad argument he had hit his wife, this had caused a complete breakdown in the relationship (understandably) and he was devastated by his actions.
well Claire R completely rubbished him on Air, told him to ***off in no uncertain terms, he did not even deserved to be listened to.
A few days later this guy committed suicide, (don't know if this contributed to his dispair) but it made me question the whole point of these phone in shows.
Sorry this probably irrelevant to the point but as others have said, embarrassing people on Air does not really further any discussion.
Thanks for posting this.

Lots of people unwittingly have the blood of others on their hands so to speak. Manners cost nothing.
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Unread 07-01-2017, 09:27
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Thanks for posting this.

Lots of people unwittingly have the blood of others on their hands so to speak. Manners cost nothing.
Such as Nigel Farage, another phone in host.
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Unread 07-01-2017, 09:49
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Not a fan of these phone in radio shows where the presenter has an agenda, whatever side you are on, but if you phone in you should be aware and prepared to accept that you are going to have to answer the questions and be put on the spot, and perhaps made fun of....
O'Brien is more a current affairs programme than dealing with personal issues and when a caller makes sweeping statements saying someone is a "bad person" or a "liar" but when asked don't know why and just repeat their sweeping statements...Mr O'Brien is exposing the weakness of their arguments.

If anything O'Brien is encouraging debate so that callers give a coherent explanation of their standpoint rather than spew out meaningless sound bites or just phone in to rant non stop for 1-2 minutes.
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Unread 07-01-2017, 10:30
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The Brexit vote won, stop whinging and get over it.
About time all you leftie luvvies accepted it.
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Unread 07-01-2017, 10:42
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Thankyou for that, even though it's got nothing to do with the thread.
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Unread 07-01-2017, 10:51
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Is this really a news story - an argument between the most unpleasant presenter on UK talk radio - James OBrien - and a caller on his phone in show? And then extrapolating this discussion to 17.4 million people?

I do think James OBrien is a pompous bully and extremely rude to people who call into his show who dare to disagree with him.

As for the caller I might suggest he tunes into Julia Hartley Brewer on talk radio instead at 10am.
I've tried listening to James O'Brien, but he is as you say. He sounds very negative most of the time and condescends in a very sarcastic and surly way. That probably says more about him and whatever chip on his shoulder he has.

For example, I heard him mentioning the LBC schedule a couple of days ago and he couldn't stop himself from insinuating that most of his colleagues are racist, xenophobic bigots.

The hackneyed phrase, "those who shout it are it" springs to mind whenever I hear this particular line and it's always resorted to in order to shut down debate. He must be either desperate or is feeling vulnerable in his job. Perhaps he wants a regular gig on Newsnight, however, I think he'd be having ideas above his station if he thinks he's of that calibre.

I suspect he's often playing to the gallery since in order to comply with impartiality rules, radio must demonstrate that is unbiased.

JOB to me is the epitome of the Champagne Socialist living in a white enclave of West London and pontificating how we should all be integrating and living amongst the "poor", just as long as they don't have to.
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Unread 07-01-2017, 11:04
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JOB to me is the epitome of the Champagne Socialist living in a white enclave of West London, but pontificating how we should all be integrating and living amongst the "poor", just as long as they don't have to.
Yeah, I don't think anyone actually does this.
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Unread 07-01-2017, 11:08
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And to be part of the SM you have to have FOM so yes it is forced.
No country has to be part of the SM if they don't want to. Just as no country has to be part of the EU if they don't want to. It's entirely voluntary.
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Unread 07-01-2017, 11:17
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JOB to me is the epitome of the Champagne Socialist living in a white enclave of West London, but pontificating how we should all be integrating and living amongst the "poor", just as long as they don't have to.
West London is full of Polish immigrants, who supposedly take the low paid jobs, so he is living amongst the poor and East Europeans.

Farage & Trump talk of representing the poor ordinary people but I don't recall Farage going up his home in a leafy suburb to live amongst those ordinary hard working folk. As for Trump his wife probably spends more on clothes in a month than the ordinary folk he claims to represent earn in in a year. As for his lifestyle the gold plated doors says it all.
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Unread 07-01-2017, 11:48
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No country has to be part of the SM if they don't want to. Just as no country has to be part of the EU if they don't want to. It's entirely voluntary.
Membership of the SM is not the same as having access to it though, is it?

As I understand it, being a member of the SM requires signing up to FoM, whereas having access does not.
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Unread 07-01-2017, 11:54
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West London is full of Polish immigrants, who supposedly take the low paid jobs, so he is living amongst the poor and East Europeans.
Well, it certainly isn't "full of Polish immigrants" in Chiswick, where he resides, so that's a very sweeping and unhelpful statement.

Chiswick is, however, a largely white enclave and he chooses to live there rather than a more ethnically diverse area such as Dalston, Tottenham or even Brixton. Those three locations are fast becoming gentrifried (which is turning into a euphemism for getting rid of diversity), so I'm surprised he isn't considering relocating to one.
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Unread 07-01-2017, 12:11
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I love James O Brian
Never heard of James O'Brien before but he comes over as a clever-clever who loves to interrupt people with his 'smart' comments.

If the ambassador was a firm remainer, and I were Theresa may, I'd keep him in the dark for fear of him sabotaging Brexit.
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Unread 07-01-2017, 12:14
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Thanks for posting this.

Lots of people unwittingly have the blood of others on their hands so to speak. Manners cost nothing.
We'll I think she was making the point that domestic violence is not acceptable on any level which I totally agree with, this was a many years back when domestic violence was covered up more, however I think this guy was asking for help, you don't go on radio and admit that readily, but he was sent packing, I hope nowdays in these sort of shows that they have someone follow up these callers so see what the issuses are, but suspect in those days it did not happen.
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Unread 07-01-2017, 12:17
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James O'Brien has often invited calls from Brexiteers and with hardly any exception they all come across more or less the same as the caller on the website - totally clueless and never able to explain how their life will be better outside the EU or what EU laws they don't like. One Remainer called the show yesterday saying that having listened to all those irrational callers he felt like packing his bags and leaving the country.
How crap is his radio programme if he has so many irrational people listening to it?!
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Unread 07-01-2017, 12:21
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JOB to me is the epitome of the Champagne Socialist living in a white enclave of West London and pontificating how we should all be integrating and living amongst the "poor", just as long as they don't have to.
Champagne Socialist is a compliment (when compared with different Life Choices. Selfish Greedy Scumbag may not be a compliment).

James O'Brien has lived in a variety of locations.

You have pointed out what you believe to be condescension without considering if it is entirely justified.
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Unread 07-01-2017, 12:33
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West London is full of Polish immigrants, who supposedly take the low paid jobs, so he is living amongst the poor and East Europeans.

Farage & Trump talk of representing the poor ordinary people but I don't recall Farage going up his home in a leafy suburb to live amongst those ordinary hard working folk. As for Trump his wife probably spends more on clothes in a month than the ordinary folk he claims to represent earn in in a year. As for his lifestyle the gold plated doors says it all.
He lives in Chiswick which is an exclusive wealthy white middle class enclave - not Ealing or Acton.
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Unread 07-01-2017, 12:35
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He lives in Chiswick which is an exclusive wealthy white middle class enclave - not Ealing or Acton.
It's really none of our business where he lives.
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Unread 07-01-2017, 12:46
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I've tried listening to James O'Brien, but he is as you say. He sounds very negative most of the time and condescends in a very sarcastic and surly way. That probably says more about him and whatever chip on his shoulder he has.

For example, I heard him mentioning the LBC schedule a couple of days ago and he couldn't stop himself from insinuating that most of his colleagues are racist, xenophobic bigots.

The hackneyed phrase, "those who shout it are it" springs to mind whenever I hear this particular line and it's always resorted to in order to shut down debate. He must be either desperate or is feeling vulnerable in his job. Perhaps he wants a regular gig on Newsnight, however, I think he'd be having ideas above his station if he thinks he's of that calibre.

I suspect he's often playing to the gallery since in order to comply with impartiality rules, radio must demonstrate that is unbiased.

JOB to me is the epitome of the Champagne Socialist living in a white enclave of West London and pontificating how we should all be integrating and living amongst the "poor", just as long as they don't have to.
JOB is a massive fraud, hides behind the 'church on Sunday' cloak, and then spews bile and venom on a daily basis. His unhealthy hatred towards all Brexiteers, Farage, and fellow broadcasters who voted leave, frankly warrants some counselling.
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Unread 07-01-2017, 13:00
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He lives in Chiswick which is an exclusive wealthy white middle class enclave - not Ealing or Acton.
This is no more than an updated version of attacking Billy Bragg for where he lives.......and a host of other "arguments" that are easily defeated.

"Why do Bleeding Heart Liberals volunteer in Soup Kitchens and then drive back to their home in a Leafy Suburb. Why are they not living in the attic apartment above the Soup Kitchen?"


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Unread 07-01-2017, 13:57
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This is no more than an updated version of attacking Billy Bragg for where he lives.......and a host of other "arguments" that are easily defeated.

"Why do Bleeding Heart Liberals volunteer in Soup Kitchens and then drive back to their home in a Leafy Suburb. Why are they not living in the attic apartment above the Soup Kitchen?"


Some do "volunteer in the attic above the Soup Kitchens" and even live there. They deserve our respect because they're principled. They're also often not liberals . .
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Unread 07-01-2017, 14:27
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Some do "volunteer in the attic above the Soup Kitchens" and even live there. They deserve our respect because they're principled. They're also often not liberals . .
They all deserve our respect.
What people do is none of our business. It was clear to me (shortly after joining this forum) that people who were attacking Billy Bragg have no idea what Billy Bragg was and is doing. A little research goes a long way and quickly makes it obvious that a man who does a whole freaking tour to fund his prison charity can only do so because he is a very wealthy man.
What exactly do we think he is living on during the months of the fund raising tour??

What is "enough" is nobody elses business.

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A: About 150 more than you have.
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Unread 07-01-2017, 16:25
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It is a nonsense to talk about 'Her' having a negotiating strategy....as negotiations are plainly far from being 'one-sided.
As has been stated many times, Brexit means Brexit - which simple means the UK leaving the EU.
A simple enough consideration. The agreement specified 'divorce' period is to be used for debate/negotiating the ensuing trading basis. Not an unreasonable provision - but sensibly, not available as a subject of discussion BEFORE, due notice of leaving is served. A so called 'exit' plan is hardly a necessity in finite terms - because the leaving Party will wish to negotiate trade deals with not EU countries, as well as the EU, and cannot predict the success of such negotiations, but obviously, the potential for beneficial arrangements with non-EU memb er states is very high.
Likewise, the EU regurgitating ad nauseum that single market access cannot be allowed without accepting freedom of movement, is hardly surprising, albeit, not really true - as many non-EU countries do enjoy free trade with the EU, without such impositions, albeit, the FT is not as extensive as that enjoyed by EU members - although, for some, this 'enjoyment' comes at a prohibitive cost!!
That was a very long way of saying you can't answer the question:

"Why was Theresa May unable to reveal her Brexit negotiating strategy to her leading diplomat in Brussels?"

The EU's position is you can't be part of the single market without FoM. Why can't May tell her colleagues what our position is?
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I really hope this is not an example of a "typical" Brexit supporter

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7510961.html
Isn't the Independent the newspaper which ignored its own name and founding principles and then found that virtually no-one was willing to pay to read it? Thus it had to scrap its print newspaper.
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