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Old Yesterday, 16:55
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Don't understand this have really enjoyed it over Xmas & Ny yes we know it was controversial killing of two loved well loved characters but Both wanted to leave permanently
So what do you do then
Also enjoy Corrie to although that's more comedy than EE in.it which isn't a criticism of it
Just found it more easygoing than EE but having threats to.producer via social media is a bit too far IMHO
Thoughts anyone
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Old Yesterday, 16:58
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I think it's been written brilliantly recently to be honest.

Not happy to see Roxy go, because I thought she had a lot more you could do with her character and because she was bloody gorgeous haha, but I thought there has been a lot of heart and good acting & filming in the run up to Christmas and New Year and just after. The deaths of R&R were horrible in a way that meant it was filmed brilliantly.
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Old Yesterday, 17:04
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It's become so stupid now, it's actually making this place very unlikable atm.

Not liking something is one thing and having a constructive discussions about it is fine.

Constantly creating shit loads of thread to express the same notion of huge dislike against a producer is becoming OTT .
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Old Yesterday, 17:14
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I actually don't think THAT many people have a problem with it on here, I just think there are a few core people (I won't name them) who insist on starting three threads a day on it, and it's getting pretty old now. Just stop watching it, surely?

I've been vocal about liking the show since SOC took over and I stand by it. There are a couple of things I would change but then that's just personal taste surely? To be honest, I've been avidly watching the show for about 20 years now and I very nearly switched off 2012/2013 but didn't, I stuck with it, which was in my opinion the worst the show's ever been. But it's EastEnders, and there's always SOMETHING about it I like, which is why I've stuck with it.

Also, with a show with so many characters you're bound to love some and hate others. It's just the way it is. There must be something these little blighters who moan every day LIKE about the show, because to me it hasn't changed THAT much. It's still essentially the same show.
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Old Yesterday, 17:14
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I don't know either, really loving it at the moment, few niggles here and there but otherwise its brilliant
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Old Yesterday, 17:20
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There are valid criticisms of the producer and the state of the show. I see just as much support for it as 'hate' on these forums. It isn't one sided.

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Old Yesterday, 17:21
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I actually don't think THAT many people have a problem with it on here, I just think there are a few core people (I won't name them) who insist on starting three threads a day on it, and it's getting pretty old now. Just stop watching it, surely?

I've been vocal about liking the show since SOC took over and I stand by it. There are a couple of things I would change but then that's just personal taste surely? To be honest, I've been avidly watching the show for about 20 years now and I very nearly switched off 2012/2013 but didn't, I stuck with it, which was in my opinion the worst the show's ever been. But it's EastEnders, and there's always SOMETHING about it I like, which is why I've stuck with it.

Also, with a show with so many characters you're bound to love some and hate others. It's just the way it is. There must be something these little blighters who moan every day LIKE about the show, because to me it hasn't changed THAT much. It's still essentially the same show.
This basically. A select few on here thinking they're talking for the masses by starting daily threads on the subject or just cut and pasting their responses onto any thread which about the show. People are allowed their opinion of course but it's just repetitive comments from a few members.
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Old Yesterday, 17:21
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Don't understand this have really enjoyed it over Xmas & Ny yes we know it was controversial killing of two loved well loved characters but Both wanted to leave permanently
So what do you do then
Also enjoy Corrie to although that's more comedy than EE in.it which isn't a criticism of it
Just found it more easygoing than EE but having threats to.producer via social media is a bit too far IMHO
Thoughts anyone
Ronnie and Rocky were axed they didn't want. To leave
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Old Yesterday, 17:26
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Don't understand this have really enjoyed it over Xmas & Ny yes we know it was controversial killing of two loved well loved characters but Both wanted to leave permanently
So what do you do then
Also enjoy Corrie to although that's more comedy than EE in.it which isn't a criticism of it
Just found it more easygoing than EE but having threats to.producer via social media is a bit too far IMHO
Thoughts anyone
Both wanted to leave permanently?
Didn't sound like that from what the actresses said!
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Old Yesterday, 17:29
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It's become so stupid now, it's actually making this place very unlikable atm.

Not liking something is one thing and having a constructive discussions about it is fine.

Constantly creating shit loads of thread to express the same notion of huge dislike against a producer is becoming OTT .
Agreed. It's one thing to express an opinion and have a discussion but it's quite another to pour abuse and vitriol in someone's direction whether it's a producer or an actor. It's rude and unecessary.

Make a comment, yes, but (as they say in Big Brother) give your reasons for it but to just slag something or someone off because you disagree with what they're doing is just nasty.

I've disliked what's happened to EE in the past but right now I'm loving it. We'll never all agree but what is making this place unpleasant is the notion that you seemingly can only be a lover or a hater and nothing in between. Sorry, but whilst I'm enjoying what SOC is doing, it's not perfect and I'll also criticise when I feel it's called for. I don't wish anyone to lose their job, though. It's only a soap and it's supposed to be light entertainment.... like a forum should be. Having said that, the nature of a soap is that actors' roles don't last forever but that's SOC's call, not mine.

I've loved Corrie in the past too but at the moment I'm finding it awful and pantomine-like (I've explained why elsewhere) but I can respect that other people are enjoying its current direction. I still don't want anyone to lose their job and whilst I'll criticise the characterisation and the stories, I don't have a go at the producer or the actors.
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Old Yesterday, 17:35
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Don't understand this have really enjoyed it over Xmas & Ny yes we know it was controversial killing of two loved well loved characters but Both wanted to leave permanently
So what do you do then
Also enjoy Corrie to although that's more comedy than EE in.it which isn't a criticism of it
Just found it more easygoing than EE but having threats to.producer via social media is a bit too far IMHO
Thoughts anyone
WHY on earth did you type that?!

Neither actress wanted to leave they were sacked and forced to play out that horrendous story.
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Old Yesterday, 17:37
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I actually don't think THAT many people have a problem with it on here, I just think there are a few core people (I won't name them) who insist on starting three threads a day on it, and it's getting pretty old now. Just stop watching it, surely?

I've been vocal about liking the show since SOC took over and I stand by it. There are a couple of things I would change but then that's just personal taste surely? To be honest, I've been avidly watching the show for about 20 years now and I very nearly switched off 2012/2013 but didn't, I stuck with it, which was in my opinion the worst the show's ever been. But it's EastEnders, and there's always SOMETHING about it I like, which is why I've stuck with it.

Also, with a show with so many characters you're bound to love some and hate others. It's just the way it is. There must be something these little blighters who moan every day LIKE about the show, because to me it hasn't changed THAT much. It's still essentially the same show.
Its the other way round for me, i think more people have a problem with him but its the same people that do not.

But yes i am also sick of the threads and i dont think i have actually started a SOC bashing thread at all yet! I have just commented in nearly all of them. Perhaps the MODS should pin one to the homepage of this forum then perhaps we won't keep getting these repeat threads every other day.
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Old Yesterday, 17:40
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There's far too many EE threads here at the moment whether they are positive or not so positive. It's hard to keep track of debate when there's duplicate threads springing up every 5 seconds.
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Old Yesterday, 17:44
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Its the other way round for me, i think more people have a problem with him but its the same people that do not.

But yes i am also sick of the threads and i dont think i have actually started a SOC bashing thread at all yet! I have just commented in nearly all of them. Perhaps the MODS should pin one to the homepage of this forum then perhaps we won't keep getting these repeat threads every other day.
Fair enough. That's your opinion. I think you're wrong.

Starting a thread and commenting on all of them are pretty much the same thing. If someone posts and no one responds, then it fades down the line and disappears. I never come on this forum after the episode airs anymore because it's so disheartening. I wish more people could see what I and others see - a really decent show.
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Old Yesterday, 17:48
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Why are people getting so upset with the criticism?

Many people (myself included) feel that the show has been strange and is getting so much wrong at the moment.

R&Rs deaths were bizarre, 2 grown women drowning in a swimming pool in about 60 seconds?

It was an accident, not caused by anybody or anything, so as somebody else said on here a few days ago their deaths are inconsequential - that's boring for 2 big characters like The Mitchell Sisters, inconsequential deaths are fine, but not for R&R

The aftermath was boring for many of us. I know some people are really loving the show at the moment, which is great, but many of us feel disappointed.

It's not just R&R. We didn't even get to see the scene were Mick confronted Osman.
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Old Yesterday, 17:48
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I don't give a shit who the producers are I really don't care and couldn't tell you who they are ,I want a show that I enjoy watching and it takes me away for 30 minutes and eastenders does this ,I love most of the characters and enjoy a laugh and sometimes a cry ,haters will hate
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Old Yesterday, 17:49
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Its the other way round for me, i think more people have a problem with him but its the same people that do not.

But yes i am also sick of the threads and i dont think i have actually started a SOC bashing thread at all yet! I have just commented in nearly all of them. Perhaps the MODS should pin one to the homepage of this forum then perhaps we won't keep getting these repeat threads every other day.
I think that's simply because one looks for validation of one's views from others, so one homes in on those posts and posters. It's the same whichever side of the fence you're on.

The poll a couple of weeks ago indicated that more people on the forum are happy with EE right now than are dissatisfied.
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Old Yesterday, 17:52
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I don't give a shit who the producers are I really don't care and couldn't tell you who they are ,I want a show that I enjoy watching and it takes me away for 30 minutes and eastenders does this ,I love most of the characters and enjoy a laugh and sometimes a cry ,haters will hate
So if fans that have been watching it for literally years, and dare to express some dissatisfaction with the way things are at the moment, we are "haters".......
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Old Yesterday, 17:52
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It's absolutely fine to have an opinion on EE, even if it's not a favourable one. What is daft is the often vicious comments directed at either the producer or the cast.

It's only a soap and it's inevitable it's going to go through change.

I live reading ALL opinions but not the vindictive, petty hate/filled comments.
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Old Yesterday, 17:54
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It's absolutely fine to have an opinion on EE, even if it's not a favourable one. What is daft is the often vicious comments directed at either the producer or the cast.

It's only a soap and it's inevitable it's going to go through change.

I live reading ALL opinions but not the vindictive, petty hate/filled comments.
I agree! If people are being personal to cast/crew that is completely indefensible!!!!
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Old Yesterday, 17:55
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WHY on earth did you type that?!

Neither actress wanted to leave they were sacked and forced to play out that horrendous story.
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Old Yesterday, 17:55
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Fair enough. That's your opinion. I think you're wrong.

Starting a thread and commenting on all of them are pretty much the same thing. If someone posts and no one responds, then it fades down the line and disappears. I never come on this forum after the episode airs anymore because it's so disheartening. I wish more people could see what I and others see - a really decent show.
Well i cant help myself! I seriously think the mods should pin this one http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2186177 that way the debate can carry on in one thread and that one seems to have the most posts.

I wish i could see what you see!! I love EastEnders i have watched it since i was 4 (yes really)
It just does not have the magic is once had at all for me. I mean its been pretty dire for years, they have never been able to recapture the unmissable era from a decade ago.
It all really started to go tits up for me when they killed off Ronnie's daughter Danielle, I did not like their reason for doing it either, 'there was nowhere for the character to go'. All that said to me was the writing team and production at the time were very very poor. Every character has somewhere to go with competent writers. That started the whole tragic heroine crap for Ronnie, which nutcase Birkwood came along and played on with that GODAWFUL babyswap story.
Dominic Treadwell picked up the show up for me somewhat and i thought the months before and around live week were brilliant. And Kathy coming back was just amazing. Then ofcourse the tits started to go up again, and the rot started to set in. However it was still watchable and still had characters in the show which i liked.
I was not really bothered when DTC left and was looking forward to a new producer, I actually noticed the change in pace as soon as SOCs work came on screen and i liked it! However I did not realize that every episode for months on end was going to be so mind numbing, had i of known a play was taking centre stage i would not of bothered watching at all up until xmas! And as for Bex and bloody Shakil!! Sorry i am just not feeling it, any of it. Ronnie & Roxy lit up the show for me in those dreadful months, i am still in shock the BBC have allowed this moron to kill them off in that bizarre fashion.
I dont like him, i dont like what hes done to the show, i will be tuning in again one day, but not whilst he is producer. I cant change how i feel.
As i said in another thread, its going to turn into a cult show which only the die hard, hardcore fans are going to want to watch, IF he stays.
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Old Yesterday, 18:04
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So if fans that have been watching it for literally years, and dare to express some dissatisfaction with the way things are at the moment, we are "haters".......
SOME of the ones who are 'loving' the show etc are just as bad as SOME of the ones who are very dissatisfied with the show.
I have seen a couple of posters ganged up on on a couple of occasions now simply for expressing their views against the current producer.
One things for sure, people are actually talking about the show again, but call it as I see it, Sean is extremely disliked, maybe not up to Bryan Kirkwoods standards yet though.
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Old Yesterday, 18:05
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I don't give a shit who the producers are I really don't care and couldn't tell you who they are ,
I am the same. Couldn't care less who produces the show. I just watch it - and then praise or moan about it as appropriate.

The person who produces it means naff all to me.
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Old Yesterday, 18:07
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Agreed. It's one thing to express an opinion and have a discussion but it's quite another to pour abuse and vitriol in someone's direction whether it's a producer or an actor. It's rude and unecessary.

Make a comment, yes, but (as they say in Big Brother) give your reasons for it but to just slag something or someone off because you disagree with what they're doing is just nasty.

I've disliked what's happened to EE in the past but right now I'm loving it. We'll never all agree but what is making this place unpleasant is the notion that you seemingly can only be a lover or a hater and nothing in between. Sorry, but whilst I'm enjoying what SOC is doing, it's not perfect and I'll also criticise when I feel it's called for. I don't wish anyone to lose their job, though. It's only a soap and it's supposed to be light entertainment.... like a forum should be. Having said that, the nature of a soap is that actors' roles don't last forever but that's SOC's call, not mine.

I've loved Corrie in the past too but at the moment I'm finding it awful and pantomine-like (I've explained why elsewhere) but I can respect that other people are enjoying its current direction. I still don't want anyone to lose their job and whilst I'll criticise the characterisation and the stories, I don't have a go at the producer or the actors.
I agree.

I just think its becoming very off putting on here to see a dozen threads about the same subject and most of it is pretty much saying to axe SOC.


There's far too many EE threads here at the moment whether they are positive or not so positive. It's hard to keep track of debate when there's duplicate threads springing up every 5 seconds.
Exactly, the mods seem to be doing little to merge duplicate threads as well.
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