Why it's time to end EU free movement - Vince Cable

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Mr Oleo Strut

06-01-2017

Originally Posted by BrokenArrow:
“Freedom of movement caused Brexit.

Who else can be blamed other than the EU and pro EU UK politicians for causing this situation ?”

Brexit is a UK problem. It is a knee-jerk reaction to the slack UK benefits system and years of unecessary wrongly-targeted Tory austerity. It is not the fault of the EU or anybody else. The UK is a mess of its own making.

James_Orton

06-01-2017

Originally Posted by Mr Oleo Strut:
“Brexit is a UK problem. It is a knee-jerk reaction to the slack UK benefits system and years of unecessary wrongly-targeted Tory austerity. It is not the fault of the EU or anybody else. The UK is a mess of its own making.”

Don't he daft.

Brexit is down to middle of the road boring middle class people forgetting about those less off for them.

It's not the middle class who have suffered year upon year of watching migrants move into their areas. It's not the middle class that work on zero hour contracts and its not the middle class who are looked down upon.

Immigration has been a powder keg waiting to be lit. Europe was the catalyst with people making their voices heard.

Cable is right in that point, you can't have open borders if the people it affects feel disenfranchised.

jjwales

06-01-2017

Originally Posted by Mr Oleo Strut:
“You are the one who is brainwashed. The UK is wide open to anybody seeking quick access to benefits.”

It's not.

Quote:
“ That is the reason the world flocks to the UK.”

It doesn't - most go elsewhere. Which is hopefully the point you were making!

jmclaugh

06-01-2017

I don't support FoM within the single market but I do understand the principle of it and why it only applies to the citizens of members of it. I don't see how Cable's criticism that it excludes Indians, Americans, Jamaicans, Australians etc is valid unless he is suggesting we have worldwide FoM.

Cheetah666

06-01-2017

Originally Posted by jmclaugh:
“I don't support FoM within the single market but I do understand the principle of it and why it only applies to the citizens of members of it. I don't see how Cable's criticism that it excludes Indians, Americans, Jamaicans, Australians etc is valid unless he is suggesting we have worldwide FoM.”

Yes, I agree, I think that was a daft comment from Cable. FoM operates within the single market among a whole host of other treaties and agreements about freedom to trade, move capital, common trading standards, fiscal transfers, etc. You can't have that with the entire world and not even the most ardent Europhile would suggest it. And to have FoM with the world without all those treaties and agreements would be a disaster of epic proportions which would make the current migrant crisis look like a picnic.

James_Orton

06-01-2017

Originally Posted by Cheetah666:
“Yes, I agree, I think that was a daft comment from Cable. FoM operates within the single market among a whole host of other treaties and agreements about freedom to trade, move capital, common trading standards, fiscal transfers, etc. You can't have that with the entire world and not even the most ardent Europhile would suggest it. And to have FoM with the world without all those treaties and agreements would be a disaster of epic proportions which would make the current migrant crisis look like a picnic.”

Picking and choosing the people entering your country to work and live is the only sound way to keep social cohesion. We've found that opening your borders just brings in cheap immigration who are no more than economic migrants.

As cable said they don't increase GDP based on PPI. So overall you just have more people in the same place who eventually get old and become a burden.

The great ponzi scheme where immigrants bring in nothing but eventually take out on retirement.

Cheetah666

06-01-2017

Originally Posted by James_Orton:
“Picking and choosing the people entering your country to work and live is the only sound way to keep social cohesion. We've found that opening your borders just brings in cheap immigration who are no more than economic migrants.

As cable said they don't increase GDP based on PPI. So overall you just have more people in the same place who eventually get old and become a burden.

The great ponzi scheme where immigrants bring in nothing but eventually take out on retirement.”

Then Vince Cable's criticism becomes even dafter. If it causes that many problems between 28 countries in Europe, how much more of a disaster would it be if you extended it to the entire world?

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