Oh dear The Engineer looks like you have been rumbled (re-posted link)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ng-empire.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ng-empire.html
Jamie Oliver slims down with six restaurants shut amid Brexit pain
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer:
“Brexit is sounding more and more like a cult - no criticism of Brexit allowed and nothing bad can ever be blamed on Brexit.”
“Brexit is sounding more and more like a cult - no criticism of Brexit allowed and nothing bad can ever be blamed on Brexit.”
Is that you jol44?
[quote=johnny_boi_UK;85071150]Is that you jol44?[/QUOTE]
Nah, can't be jol44 only posted when he thought Labour were ahead in the polls
Nah, can't be jol44 only posted when he thought Labour were ahead in the polls
Has anyone ever had a good meal at Jamie's resteraunts?
Every time I hear them being mentioned the word disapointing follows, but that's probably Brexit as well.
Every time I hear them being mentioned the word disapointing follows, but that's probably Brexit as well.
[quote=John146;85071201]
The similarities of posting between the two is funny though.
Originally Posted by johnny_boi_UK:
“Is that you jol44?[/QUOTE]
Nah, can't be jol44 only posted when he thought Labour were ahead in the polls”
“Is that you jol44?[/QUOTE]
Nah, can't be jol44 only posted when he thought Labour were ahead in the polls”
The similarities of posting between the two is funny though.
The Aberdeen restaurant didn't get good reviews from friends and colleagues who ate there, it wont be missed.
Originally Posted by supersneak:
“The Aberdeen restaurant didn't get good reviews from friends and colleagues who ate there, it wont be missed.”
“The Aberdeen restaurant didn't get good reviews from friends and colleagues who ate there, it wont be missed.”
Me and my Mrs went in the St.Albans Deli adjoining Jamies Italian for a coffee and a bite. We stood at the counter being ignored for 5-10 minutes while the young bloke faffed around cleaning the coffee machine assuming that we were being served(but not bothering to ask). We haven't been back since, and always go to a local independent now.
I have only ever read poor reviews about the one where I live. Overpriced and poor quality food seem to be the main criticisms. For those reasons I have given it a miss. Maybe Jamie needs to blame himself and not look for excuses.
Been to one in Ludgate and the one in Rose Street in Edinburgh.
Both were overpriced and not good.
The Edinburgh one only a few minutes away from real Italian restaurants - with Italians cooking the food for much more reasonable prices.
Surprised the Edinburgh one is not closing.
Both were overpriced and not good.
The Edinburgh one only a few minutes away from real Italian restaurants - with Italians cooking the food for much more reasonable prices.
Surprised the Edinburgh one is not closing.
Originally Posted by TheEngineer:
“Jamie Oliver slims down with six restaurants shut amid Brexit pain
http://news.sky.com/story/jamie-oliv...-pain-10719490
Pressure is starting to build.”
“Jamie Oliver slims down with six restaurants shut amid Brexit pain
http://news.sky.com/story/jamie-oliv...-pain-10719490
Pressure is starting to build.”
It is more to do with his business acumen and that his restaurants do not come up to scratch for a 'renowned' chef it is appalling -he obviously doesn't employ the best of chefs and he cuts costs because he has too many.
He relies on paying very low wages.
His fault nothing to do with Brexit.
Originally Posted by John146:
“Oh dear The Engineer looks like you have been rumbled (re-posted link)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ng-empire.html”
“Oh dear The Engineer looks like you have been rumbled (re-posted link)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ng-empire.html”
And like a typical troll the OP is now nowhere to be seen. Probably trolling Google news for the next spam thread.
Originally Posted by TheEngineer:
“Jamie Oliver slims down with six restaurants shut amid Brexit pain
http://news.sky.com/story/jamie-oliv...-pain-10719490
Pressure is starting to build.”
“Jamie Oliver slims down with six restaurants shut amid Brexit pain
http://news.sky.com/story/jamie-oliv...-pain-10719490
Pressure is starting to build.”
He had pressure back in 2014 what caused that ? it was various parts of his business not performing so well .
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddr...-can-chew.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddr...ook-sales.html
And he is closing 6 out of 42 in the UK so much better than many businesses who have gone to the wall over the past few years which had nothing to do with Brexit.
The Sky article whilst mentioning these 6 closures does not mention that they are expanding and opening more of the Barbecoa brand this year, with items on the menu which will be imported products, so one wonders why Brexit isn't affecting them ?
Originally Posted by TheEngineer:
“Brexit is sounding more and more like a cult - no criticism of Brexit allowed and nothing bad can ever be blamed on Brexit.”
“Brexit is sounding more and more like a cult - no criticism of Brexit allowed and nothing bad can ever be blamed on Brexit.”
No, we have to take each of these stories on their own merit and credibility.
And this one is an epic fail against critical reasoning.
Maybe you could try it sometime
However I do accept that it will be difficult for us all, going forward, to separate truthful impacts of Brexit against those using it as a convenient excuse for their own failures.
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“It's interesting how so many news articles can be linked to Brexit simply by creating a headline where on the end you add "...following Brexit" or "...amid fears of Brexit" or whatever combination of words you choose to use with Brexit.
I had to cut back on my spending after Christmas ......after the Brexit vote.
I imagine that although there may be some articles which may perhaps refer to thoughtful content, much of what seems to be created seems to be based around the word Brexit because the word lends itself to being clickbait.”
“It's interesting how so many news articles can be linked to Brexit simply by creating a headline where on the end you add "...following Brexit" or "...amid fears of Brexit" or whatever combination of words you choose to use with Brexit.
I had to cut back on my spending after Christmas ......after the Brexit vote.
I imagine that although there may be some articles which may perhaps refer to thoughtful content, much of what seems to be created seems to be based around the word Brexit because the word lends itself to being clickbait.”
Since the referendum I don't think I have seen a BBC London television news programme that doesn't use those words at some point. The national news bulletin is probably the same, but I now rarely watch BBC for news coverage other than local stuff.
Originally Posted by CSJB:
“If Brexit helps rid our shores of anything asssoiciated with the fat hypocrite then it has to be a good thing.
Sadly, brexit can't take the credit for this, as it has absolutely nothing to do with it whatsoever.
Anybody that thinks otherwise really needs to take some time out for quiet reflection - that means you spamgineer.”
“If Brexit helps rid our shores of anything asssoiciated with the fat hypocrite then it has to be a good thing.
Sadly, brexit can't take the credit for this, as it has absolutely nothing to do with it whatsoever.
Anybody that thinks otherwise really needs to take some time out for quiet reflection - that means you spamgineer.”
Great post
Originally Posted by jmclaugh:
“Carluccios in Exeter is always busy, it is just around the corner from Oliver's, prices are much the same.”
“Carluccios in Exeter is always busy, it is just around the corner from Oliver's, prices are much the same.”
Much better quality.
I'd rather pay for the real thing. In celebrity chef chain restaurants it might be named after the chef but it sure as hell won't be them cooking the food.
A bit like so-called designer ranges in high street chain stores. I'd rather pay for the real thing than the diluted, mass-produced version.
A bit like so-called designer ranges in high street chain stores. I'd rather pay for the real thing than the diluted, mass-produced version.
Originally Posted by TheEngineer:
“Jamie Oliver slims down with six restaurants shut amid Brexit pain
http://news.sky.com/story/jamie-oliv...-pain-10719490
Pressure is starting to build.”
“Jamie Oliver slims down with six restaurants shut amid Brexit pain
http://news.sky.com/story/jamie-oliv...-pain-10719490
Pressure is starting to build.”
Last time I ate at one was the Aberdeen one and it was the most disappointing Italian meal I've had in long while. Far better restaurants in the city and ditto the other places.
I doubt this has anything to do with Brexit, more likely an individual chain struggling to keep up with better competition.
Look, the food industry is oversaturated, and restaurants change hands or close down all the time, even before Brexit. With so many choice and variety, it's stiff competition and people tend to go for the cheaper options, unless they want to pay for quality.
Jamie Oliver's restaurants, seem to sit in the middle, neither cheap or good enough quality for the upmarket customers. Sure there's middle ground, however it's flooded with restaurants like Frankie and Bennys, TGI Fridays, Nandos and etc. All of whom are competing on deals and price. So why would customers go to Jamie Oliver, if they can go to a cheaper alternative with the same level of quality?
Another point is, I wonder what the overheads were, as I doubt any of the closed restaurants owned the property. I could guess that rent alone, would be over £100,000-£200,000 or more a year for city units in prime locations. If business wasn't good, they'd not meet that target, and you got other expenses, taxes and wages to pay on top. I would guess that you'd have to pay well over £200,000-£300,000 a year.
The restaurant business, actually the whole food industry, is one of the most challenged industries in the UK. Simply because it's oversaturated, with far too many outlets. This means, that the biggest businesses, offer the best deals and out price the smaller guys, as they can financially afford to, but is very risky because small businesses would risk it, by offering more for the price like bigger portions. With so many small food businesses, each slice of the pie shrinks drastically.
One type of business to stay clear of, is the food industry in current times. You are better off investing in other sectors or buy property.
Jamie Oliver's restaurants, seem to sit in the middle, neither cheap or good enough quality for the upmarket customers. Sure there's middle ground, however it's flooded with restaurants like Frankie and Bennys, TGI Fridays, Nandos and etc. All of whom are competing on deals and price. So why would customers go to Jamie Oliver, if they can go to a cheaper alternative with the same level of quality?
Another point is, I wonder what the overheads were, as I doubt any of the closed restaurants owned the property. I could guess that rent alone, would be over £100,000-£200,000 or more a year for city units in prime locations. If business wasn't good, they'd not meet that target, and you got other expenses, taxes and wages to pay on top. I would guess that you'd have to pay well over £200,000-£300,000 a year.
The restaurant business, actually the whole food industry, is one of the most challenged industries in the UK. Simply because it's oversaturated, with far too many outlets. This means, that the biggest businesses, offer the best deals and out price the smaller guys, as they can financially afford to, but is very risky because small businesses would risk it, by offering more for the price like bigger portions. With so many small food businesses, each slice of the pie shrinks drastically.
One type of business to stay clear of, is the food industry in current times. You are better off investing in other sectors or buy property.
Originally Posted by scotch:
“Been to one in Ludgate and the one in Rose Street in Edinburgh.
Both were overpriced and not good.
The Edinburgh one only a few minutes away from real Italian restaurants - with Italians cooking the food for much more reasonable prices.
Surprised the Edinburgh one is not closing.”
“Been to one in Ludgate and the one in Rose Street in Edinburgh.
Both were overpriced and not good.
The Edinburgh one only a few minutes away from real Italian restaurants - with Italians cooking the food for much more reasonable prices.
Surprised the Edinburgh one is not closing.”
I assume the one in Edinburgh is doing good business despite bad reviews as it is a tourist appealing city which will see new customers go there everyday rather than some place with less tourism which likely has to rely on the same people coming back who obviously won't go back after a disappointing meal and service.
I saw the reaction to this news story on twitter and wow, I've never seen remainers and leavers so united on a particular matter before, basically in thinking it is a load of rubbish.
All these attempts to unite the divided country, perhaps Jamie Oliver talking about his problems might be the thing to do it.
All these attempts to unite the divided country, perhaps Jamie Oliver talking about his problems might be the thing to do it.
Originally Posted by BRITLAND:
“I assume the one in Edinburgh is doing good business despite bad reviews as it is a tourist appealing city which will see new customers go there everyday rather than some place with less tourism which likely has to rely on the same people coming back who obviously won't go back after a disappointing meal and service.”
“I assume the one in Edinburgh is doing good business despite bad reviews as it is a tourist appealing city which will see new customers go there everyday rather than some place with less tourism which likely has to rely on the same people coming back who obviously won't go back after a disappointing meal and service.”
Yes, that makes entire sense. Visitors to Edinburgh and they see the name Jamie Oliver and go in. . Plenty of passing trade from visitors.
Originally Posted by meglosmurmurs:
“I saw the reaction to this news story on twitter and wow, I've never seen remainers and leavers so united on a particular matter before, basically in thinking it is a load of rubbish.
All these attempts to unite the divided country, perhaps Jamie Oliver talking about his problems might be the thing to do it.”
“I saw the reaction to this news story on twitter and wow, I've never seen remainers and leavers so united on a particular matter before, basically in thinking it is a load of rubbish.
All these attempts to unite the divided country, perhaps Jamie Oliver talking about his problems might be the thing to do it.”
One thing we all like in this country is seeing someone rich and successful getting taken down a peg or two!
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