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Remember when he ambushed David Cameron live on air with that list of the Internet? Created a right media shit storm, he really should have been sacked for that. Then he conveniently 'went on holiday' and left Ruth to do an apology on his behalf. It was never mentioned again and he eventually returned and acted like like nothing ever happened.
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Really went off him at that moment!
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Yep I certainly am.
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Remember when he ambushed David Cameron live on air with that list of the Internet? Created a right media shit storm, he really should have been sacked for that. Then he conveniently 'went on holiday' and left Ruth to do an apology on his behalf. It was never mentioned again and he eventually returned and acted like like nothing ever happened.
Really went off him at that moment! I wonder if he has a little Shrine dedicated to Matthew Wright at his house, because until He mentioned John Leslie's name on The Wright Stuff show, Pip was long forgotten. |
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If anything like illness or loss of your job happens to you I take it that you'll live by your own principles and refuse any state benefits then.
I've been saying this from my 1st post!!!!! The two scenarios you mention above would fall under that category, so why hold them up as examples??? I have a problem with "certain people" (and YES, they do exist) who deliberately put themselves into a position to claim benefits purely and simply because we have a benefits system. People who have absolutely no intention of ever working or contributing into the country, and are only interested in what they can get out of it for free. Please, please don't tell me that you have never read about "Wayne & Waynetta", both unemployed but claiming every benefit going, knocking out another "chavvie" for the welfare system to support, now claiming that they "need" a bigger house (rent paid of course) because their current four bedroomed one isn't big enough, because it's their "right". Their "right" to what exactly???? Their "right" to sponge off of everybody else whilst they lay in bed all day copulating and sticking two fingers up to the very system that is feeding them????? These are the type of people who get my back up. The ones "milking" it for all their worth. And I am sure that is what Schofield was alluding to, albeit in the wrong way. He was just speaking for a large percentage of us, but in this instance he got it wrong. I'm sorry that some of you have taken my comments the wrong way. I know what I was trying to say, and I may not have worded it correctly in some of my posts. But to say that these kind of spongers (not everybody on benefits) don't exist is naive at best. But to admit that they exist yet try to defend their actions???? Madness. |
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Which part of "I'm not talking about people who find themselves on benefits through no fault of their own" do you fail to understand??????
I've been saying this from my 1st post!!!!! The two scenarios you mention above would fall under that category, so why hold them up as examples??? I have a problem with "certain people" (and YES, they do exist) who deliberately put themselves into a position to claim benefits purely and simply because we have a benefits system. People who have absolutely no intention of ever working or contributing into the country, and are only interested in what they can get out of it for free. Please, please don't tell me that you have never read about "Wayne & Waynetta", both unemployed but claiming every benefit going, knocking out another "chavvie" for the welfare system to support, now claiming that they "need" a bigger house (rent paid of course) because their current four bedroomed one isn't big enough, because it's their "right". Their "right" to what exactly???? Their "right" to sponge off of everybody else whilst they lay in bed all day copulating and sticking two fingers up to the very system that is feeding them????? These are the type of people who get my back up. The ones "milking" it for all their worth. And I am sure that is what Schofield was alluding to, albeit in the wrong way. He was just speaking for a large percentage of us, but in this instance he got it wrong. I'm sorry that some of you have taken my comments the wrong way. I know what I was trying to say, and I may not have worded it correctly in some of my posts. But to say that these kind of spongers (not everybody on benefits) don't exist is naive at best. But to admit that they exist yet try to defend their actions???? Madness. So what if these people exist who do milk it? It doesn't affect your life and to get outraged over it is stupid. It doesn't affect mine and I don't think of it. It's also unfair on the children to punish them because of their parents actions. |
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So what if these people exist who do milk it? It doesn't affect your life and to get outraged over it is stupid. It doesn't affect mine and I don't think of it. .
Don't you ever stop and think about the millions of £££££'s that could be spent elsewhere, rather than being spent on supporting people who are milking the system? And I am talking about the "REAL" milkers, not EVERYBODY on benefits here. |
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So you are saying it's perfectly acceptable???
Don't you ever stop and think about the millions of £££££'s that could be spent elsewhere, rather than being spent on supporting people who are milking the system? And I am talking about the "REAL" milkers, not EVERYBODY on benefits here. Money is wasted everywhere. You should be aiming your anger at the DWP, not these people. There's always people in all walk of life trying it on. Tax evasion is worse as that costs the Government more. I |
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They may milk it but would still be eligible to claim them.
I get annoyed with the people that have deliberately put themselves into the position where they have to claim benefits. NOT the people that find they HAVE to through NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN. There is a clear distinction between the two. And I still stand by my comments about the pampers situation. When my wife and I had our first child we could not afford to use pampers. They were considered a luxury item when terry towelling nappies did the same thing, were overall "cheaper" to use, but required a little more effort. We accepted this, it's called "cutting your cloth". This particular woman annoyed me because she was on benefits and was complaining that she couldn't afford pampers. I merely suggested that it would be cheaper for her to use terry towelling nappies, as we had done then she would have more money left over to spend on other things. Where is the harm in that???? Say she had come on saying "we only have fish fingers for tea but my kids would like fillet steak"....would you have upped her benefits so that she could afford fillet steak??? |
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Big bold Phil on his 8 million salary, bitches about a woman who was a teacher and had to give up her job. The selfish b*tche's crime buying two cheap bottles of bubbly.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ghby-quit.html |
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With all due respect, you still don't get it do you?
I get annoyed with the people that have deliberately put themselves into the position where they have to claim benefits. NOT the people that find they HAVE to through NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN. There is a clear distinction between the two. And I still stand by my comments about the pampers situation. When my wife and I had our first child we could not afford to use pampers. They were considered a luxury item when terry towelling nappies did the same thing, were overall "cheaper" to use, but required a little more effort. We accepted this, it's called "cutting your cloth". This particular woman annoyed me because she was on benefits and was complaining that she couldn't afford pampers. I merely suggested that it would be cheaper for her to use terry towelling nappies, as we had done then she would have more money left over to spend on other things. Where is the harm in that???? Say she had come on saying "we only have fish fingers for tea but my kids would like fillet steak"....would you have upped her benefits so that she could afford fillet steak??? At first you had a pop at the woman talking to Scofield, now because you found out she gave up her job to be a carer, you don't mind her now. Just proves my point that you shouldn't be judgemental. |
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Now your just being ridiculous.
But that's your prerogative |
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If you say so.
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Her benefits wouldn't have been upped so she could have fillet steak.
After all, she was moaning that she couldn't afford them. So the only two alternatives were upping her benefits, or using a cheaper method (ie towelling nappies) |
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Which part of "I'm not talking about people who find themselves on benefits through no fault of their own" do you fail to understand??????
I've been saying this from my 1st post!!!!! The two scenarios you mention above would fall under that category, so why hold them up as examples??? I have a problem with "certain people" (and YES, they do exist) who deliberately put themselves into a position to claim benefits purely and simply because we have a benefits system. People who have absolutely no intention of ever working or contributing into the country, and are only interested in what they can get out of it for free. Please, please don't tell me that you have never read about "Wayne & Waynetta", both unemployed but claiming every benefit going, knocking out another "chavvie" for the welfare system to support, now claiming that they "need" a bigger house (rent paid of course) because their current four bedroomed one isn't big enough, because it's their "right". Their "right" to what exactly???? Their "right" to sponge off of everybody else whilst they lay in bed all day copulating and sticking two fingers up to the very system that is feeding them????? These are the type of people who get my back up. The ones "milking" it for all their worth. And I am sure that is what Schofield was alluding to, albeit in the wrong way. He was just speaking for a large percentage of us, but in this instance he got it wrong. I'm sorry that some of you have taken my comments the wrong way. I know what I was trying to say, and I may not have worded it correctly in some of my posts. But to say that these kind of spongers (not everybody on benefits) don't exist is naive at best. But to admit that they exist yet try to defend their actions???? Madness. That is your trouble. you watch way to much TV and read crap newspapers. If you don't see it with your own eyes and hear it with your own ears it could and probably was either made up or highly exaggerated. Your scenario gets more and more "out there" as you try to make us understand about scroungers and try to get us as outraged as you are . its not working because we know scroungers are actually few and far between and the biggest scroungers are in fact the rich . You started out abut a women you heard on the TV saying she could not make ends meet and could not buy pampers now its loads of kids by different men blah blah Stop it!! We save our angst for those that really deserve it not someone you made up in your head.. Im on lots of groups where people are on benefits (all types) and try to help each other.. you would hate it as the sarcastic "thank you" for the £10 bonus were all over the pages saying what great things everyone was going to buy. with their £10.
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Anyone who uses the NHS is claiming from the tax payer, everyone over 65 who claims a pension is claiming from the tax payer.
Everyone who uses the police, fire service or has a child in school is claiming from the tax payer. Going off Smuffers in this thread all these people are milking the system. |
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But they should be upped so that she can comfortably afford pampers?
After all, she was moaning that she couldn't afford them. So the only two alternatives were upping her benefits, or using a cheaper method (ie towelling nappies) Why don't you run along and look into the cost of buying reusable nappies . No one on benefits would be able to put the outlay to buy them. We do not live in those days any more. My daughter uses reusable but she works so can afford to use them. but it cost her a lot of time trying to get them dry so now is looking to buy a dryer so now cost on £ will be higher. She lives in a house with a garden as well. She sometimes has to use disposable as she cannot get her washing dry |
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Anyone who uses the NHS is claiming from the tax payer, everyone over 65 who claims a pension is claiming from the tax payer.
Everyone who uses the police, fire service or has a child in school is claiming from the tax payer. Going off Smuffers in this thread all these people are milking the system.
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I shall say this again.
Why don't you run along and look into the cost of buying reusable nappies . No one on benefits would be able to put the outlay to buy them. We do not live in those days any more. My daughter uses reusable but she works so can afford to use them. but it cost her a lot of time trying to get them dry so now is looking to buy a dryer so now cost on £ will be higher. She lives in a house with a garden as well. She sometimes has to use disposable as she cannot get her washing dry |
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Anyone who uses the NHS is claiming from the tax payer, everyone over 65 who claims a pension is claiming from the tax payer.
Everyone who uses the police, fire service or has a child in school is claiming from the tax payer. Going off Smuffers in this thread all these people are milking the system. I also pay council tax in full. I'm not milking the system and I'm not "outraged" I sleep soundly at night. |
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There's a slight difference. I've been working for 50 years and have paid tax and NI all of my working life to help towards these things.
I also pay council tax in full. I'm not milking the system and I'm not "outraged" I sleep soundly at night. If you didn't want to get criticised, you shouldn't have been so self-righteous. You're still taking from the ''system'' as are ALL of us. Perhaps you need to stop reading the Daily Mail and watching Benefits Street and Life on the Dole and get a life for yourself. Might help that blood pressure. |
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There's a slight difference. I've been working for 50 years and have paid tax and NI all of my working life to help towards these things.
I also pay council tax in full. I'm not milking the system and I'm not "outraged" I sleep soundly at night. |
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Bully for you. How does it feel up there on the moral high ground?
You're still taking from the ''system'' as are ALL of us. How am I "taking" from the system???? Please elaborate. And I'm "up on the moral high ground" because I pay my way and hate to see spongers milking the system??? And I'll clarify once again for the thick ones out there..... by "spongers" I mean the ones who have deliberately, (deliberately), put themselves into the benefits system to take, take take for all it's worth without putting anything back in. If you accept that spongers exist, and condone what they are doing, then take a pat on the back. You, my friend, are what helps make this country a laughing stock. |
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-brothers.html
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...5k-in-benefits https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/174096...bedroom-house/ They don't exist. And that was a two minute trawl of Google. Want more? |
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