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Landlord bans single mums, 'battered wives' and plumbers from becoming tenants
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Whedonite
Yesterday, 18:09
Originally Posted by DMN1968:
“Personally, and as a buy to let landlord myself, I do not blame him for excluding certain groups from renting property from him. As with me, he is not a charity and is in it to make money. I want to have a comfortable retirement and for my children to be on a sound financial footing. They stop paying the rent for whatever reason, and you lose out - unfortunately many people who rent could not care less so you have to take measures to protect your investment.

I will not let to anyone on benefits, with pets, young children, anyone without a verifiable employment history, criminal records, visible tattoos, poor credit history, smokers and certain other criteria, partially because previous experience has shown the property is more likely to be abused, and/or they often have difficulty paying the rent when circumstances change. Most other BTLers have similar criteria.

When you have around a dozen people applying for each property, you can afford to be selective, and will go for the safest option any time - why would you go for someone who is likely to cause issues?

I would not go as far as excluding plumbers - my best tenant is a plumber (from the Czech republic) - I guess he has been stung by one?”

What exactly counts as a "visible tattoo"? I have one on my wrist that is sometimes visible and sometimes not visible. Same with the one on the back of my neck. Could I move in if I wear my hair down?
tenofspades
Yesterday, 18:13
don't know why this guy villified, landlords right across the UK have selection like this just generalised as 'no dss'.
Girth
Yesterday, 18:16
Originally Posted by Whedonite:
“What exactly counts as a "visible tattoo"? I have one on my wrist that is sometimes visible and sometimes not visible. Same with the one on the back of my neck. Could I move in if I wear my hair down?”

What the eye doesn't see the tenant gets away with. Until the security deposit is to be repaid, anyway.
James Frederick
Yesterday, 18:20
Originally Posted by Whedonite:
“What exactly counts as a "visible tattoo"? I have one on my wrist that is sometimes visible and sometimes not visible. Same with the one on the back of my neck. Could I move in if I wear my hair down?”

Could always get a visible one once you have moved in.
James Frederick
Yesterday, 18:21
The young children one gets me what about if she gets pregnant after she moves in it can happen the couple or her may have no plans for kids but sometimes it just happens.
jra
Yesterday, 18:27
Originally Posted by Union Jock:
“You missed out 'families with children, pet owners, smokers, single adults and workers on zero hours contracts'.

The guy is a nut.”

Pet owners and smokers make sense, the others, it's dependent on the type of property rented.

Originally Posted by Hobbit Feet:
“it's pretty disgraceful that there are so many people seeking rented accommodation that he feels he can be so discriminatory”

A landlord is not under obligation to rent out a property to anybody that they feel are unsuitable, like a potential employer does not have to give somebody a job, just because there are a lot of unemployed people.

Originally Posted by VicnBob:
“Can you rent privately owned properties directly to the council?”

Not around here AFAIK.
tenofspades
Yesterday, 18:32
really people should only be allowed 2 properties, unless there is surplus stock. Its wrong property 'tycoons' buy up all these properties taking away from possible buyers- then ruling people out.
jra
Yesterday, 18:33
Originally Posted by Whedonite:
“What exactly counts as a "visible tattoo"? I have one on my wrist that is sometimes visible and sometimes not visible. Same with the one on the back of my neck. Could I move in if I wear my hair down?”

How then do you wear your hair down on your wrist?
InMyArms
Yesterday, 18:34
Originally Posted by tenofspades:
“really people should only be allowed 2 properties, unless there is surplus stock. Its wrong property 'tycoons' buy up all these properties taking away from possible buyers- then ruling people out.”

That's not how capitalism works.

Plus the MPs would never approve it, especially a Tory government.
tenofspades
Yesterday, 18:40
if everyone has this criteria- how do the subgroups get lets? Its slightly crazy that smokers are so heavily discriminated against- I'm not a smoker but if I was looking for a flat and smoked and 10 out of 14 places said no smoking, I think I would feel quite hard done by.
There should maybe be specifications on buying houses- if you are going to rent with such specifications you should have to pay more for the property. A kind of tax that goes towards people that do rent out to the sub groups.
Hobbit Feet
Yesterday, 18:44
Originally Posted by jra:
“

A landlord is not under obligation to rent out a property to anybody that they feel are unsuitable, like a potential employer does not have to give somebody a job, just because there are a lot of unemployed people.

”


and?

that has absolutely nothing to do with the point of my post
Girth
Yesterday, 18:49
Originally Posted by tenofspades:
“if everyone has this criteria- how do the subgroups get lets? Its slightly crazy that smokers are so heavily discriminated against- I'm not a smoker but if I was looking for a flat and smoked and 10 out of 14 places said no smoking, I think I would feel quite hard done by.”

Stop smoking then.
Bagshot85
Yesterday, 18:49
It's his property, so his prerogative really.
My dad was in the property business, and you quickly begin to understand what type of person you won't let anywhere near your property.
I'd also want no pets, children under a certain age, young singles, people on benefits or smokers in my property.
VicnBob
Yesterday, 18:52
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“That's not how capitalism works.

Plus the MPs would never approve it, especially a Tory government.”

Load of codswallop, its the Tories that have put in the recent taxes to put people of from buying second and third etc properties to let out.
muggins14
Yesterday, 18:54
Originally Posted by jra:
“How then do you wear your hair down on your wrist? ”



That reminds me of a line from The Big Chill where their friend has killed himself and they are discussing it. One of them says 'Alex didn't commit suicide, he killed himself shaving.'. The other person says 'yes, that's right, he always did have hairy wrists.'
Whedonite
Yesterday, 19:17
Originally Posted by jra:
“How then do you wear your hair down on your wrist? ”

tim59
Yesterday, 19:19
Originally Posted by VicnBob:
“Can you rent privately owned properties directly to the council?”

Yes more common than people think,. https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...Nxo77sj86ANbBQ
blueblade
Yesterday, 19:34
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“If I were to rent a house out i'd love it to go to a plumber, if something went wrong with the pipes overnight you'd know the place wouldn't be a swamp by the time you got there!”

Plus, the rent will always be on tap
jra
Yesterday, 19:37
Originally Posted by tenofspades:
“really people should only be allowed 2 properties, unless there is surplus stock. Its wrong property 'tycoons' buy up all these properties taking away from possible buyers- then ruling people out.”

Well you could lobby to get the law changed, but I don't see it happening any time soon. All you're doing is 'trying' to solve one problem and creating another. And the simple fact is many people can't afford to buy their own properties if they are potential first time buyers, so by your method you're decreasing the number of properties to rent (max 2 properties/person) and then increasing the number of properties to buy at the same time. This is not going to help many first time buyers.
tghe-retford
Yesterday, 19:39
This landlord has a particular reputation but his views on single people are not as far fetched as they seem. Landlords generally prefer couples, namely as they can bring in two incomes, pay higher rents, are more financially secure, are less likely to perform anti-social behaviour and as landlords tend to upgrade properties to make more profit, more bedrooms for couples and (future) families makes financial sense.

And as many young singles live with their parents before finding a partner and moving out, there is less incentive for the private sector to provide housing for single people.
GusGus
Yesterday, 19:48
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“The young children one gets me what about if she gets pregnant after she moves in it can happen the couple or her may have no plans for kids but sometimes it just happens.”


Assuming that it is a condition of the lease then notice to quit would be given
tim59
Yesterday, 20:01
Originally Posted by GusGus:
“Assuming that it is a condition of the lease then notice to quit would be given”

Sorry i dont think you chould get away by putting in a agrrement and you must not get pregnant as that would be breaking the agreement.
jra
Yesterday, 20:34
Originally Posted by tim59:
“Yes more common than people think,. https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...Nxo77sj86ANbBQ”

And most of the repairs are required to be performed by the home owner, not the council, as opposed to what you said above.
Ashenden
Yesterday, 20:43
For years, self-publicity has been a drug for that couple.
tim59
Yesterday, 20:48
Originally Posted by jra:
“And most of the repairs are required to be performed by the home owner, not the council, as opposed to what you said above.”

Still not a bad deal. What are the benefits to me?

If you lease your property to the Council, you will be provided with:

a fixed term lease of between two and 25 years
guaranteed rental income for the lease period - even if the property is empty
rent paid yearly in advance
no introductory fee for renting your property
professional property management by Woking Borough Council
a sole point of contact with the Council
guaranteed vacant possession of the property and in good state of repair and decoration - excluding fair wear and tear.
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