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Billie Piper Quits Doctor Who (Yes, she does!)
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JohnFlawbod
21-05-2005
Originally Posted by dunkpigeon:
“The message coming out from the actors performing these scripts, is that they would rather not be associated with them (for reasons known only to themselves).

I think that (if he's not already doing it) Russell T Davies needs a very serious re-think, with regards to the content that he sanctions here, as Producer.

But then again, there are still a legion of Dr Who fans, wondering 'what exactly happened here?'.. Maybe he's joking, hanging in there for the next Cannes?

Another Exposition of a 'bunny boiling' everything...'I am' maybe?”

I'm not sure I understand this post at all but for the record, the concept that actors dictate script content is a tabloid nonsense, actors are paid to do a job and they either do it or they don't...accept it or they don't...good TV Drama is a result of a corking concept, excellent production values, apt casting, well-written scripts and ultimately, telling a story that people want to watch - whether or not the actors appear in "Hello!" is not relevant...whether they convince between the beginning and end credits is because that's all that matters in a drama...
Mrs Harman
21-05-2005
Originally Posted by Sloopy:
“It seems to me that most of the people involved in this programme see it as more of a stepping stone to some great big, successful Hollywood career - who are they trying to kid?!

The actors in DW are competent but there's much better out there.”


Er, CE has already been in 2 hollywood films (28 Days Later and The Others) and was considered one of the best british TV actors around pre Doctor Who (Our Friends In The North, Second Coming, Hearts and Minds) he also does a lot of theatre.
Billie Piper as Rose has been fab, and the show in itself is a good career move for her to build up her reputation over the next 2 or 3 series and not just be known as former singer and former Mrs Chris Evans, I very much doubt that this rumour is AT ALL true
WeatherfieldWil
21-05-2005
how about pushing the boat out and having a 'black' female companion ?
stuart62
21-05-2005
Originally Posted by WeatherfieldWil:
“how about pushing the boat out and having a 'black' female companion ?”

I would imagine the next companion will be chosen on his/her acting ability regardless of their skin colour.
iain
21-05-2005
Originally Posted by JohnFlawbod:
“As something of a self-confessed oldie where DW is concerned I can't help but think that the publicity buzz generated by comings and goings of Cast is something of a 21st Century tabloid phenomenon. DW dealt with the problem of Actors leaving in the first series' back in the 60s and it really doesn't matter who takes over as The Doctor or who steps as companion(s) because some will love them, some will hate them. As long as the show remains watchable, innovative, scary, well written and enjoyable then it will endure...as someone posted before, it has always been greater than the sum of its parts and even Tom Baker admits to being somewhat taken aback when his resignation was accepted because he inadvertently found himself believing that his role in DW was bigger than the programme... ”

thats all true enough - speaking for myself, i just think that after the buzz about dr who returning, and being such a success, its just a pity its changing so much quite so soon.

tom baker for example didn't become the doctor we all know and love by doing just 13 episodes.

Iain
Alfie_2oo4
21-05-2005
Originally Posted by Mrs Harman:
“Er, CE has already been in 2 hollywood films (28 Days Later and The Others) and was considered one of the best british TV actors around pre Doctor Who (Our Friends In The North, Second Coming, Hearts and Minds) he also does a lot of theatre.
Billie Piper as Rose has been fab, and the show in itself is a good career move for her to build up her reputation over the next 2 or 3 series and not just be known as former singer and former Mrs Chris Evans, I very much doubt that this rumour is AT ALL true”


Dont forget he was in gone on 60 seconds aswell
smeg_head
21-05-2005
Originally Posted by Alfie_2oo4:
“Dont forget he was in gone on 60 seconds aswell”


And while not a Hollywood film he was also in the excellent Shallow Grave.
Black Guardian
21-05-2005
Originally Posted by iain:
“thats all true enough - speaking for myself, i just think that after the buzz about dr who returning, and being such a success, its just a pity its changing so much quite so soon.

tom baker for example didn't become the doctor we all know and love by doing just 13 episodes.

Iain”

It is a shame that CE decided not to stay for more but he launched the series to a new generation of viewers...some old but largely new going by the ratings..so I am glad he took part. How do we know how the series would've gone had another actor been in the part...it could have fallen flat on it's face. Something we will never know but thanks to Chris, Billie, the excellent supporting cast (who I don't think are acknowledged enough),some excellent scripts (though one or two dodgy ones) the series has achieved the success it deserves. Onwards and upwards........
Mrs Harman
21-05-2005
Originally Posted by smeg_head:
“And while not a Hollywood film he was also in the excellent Shallow Grave.”


Oooo forgot to mention those two, my point was to prove to another poster that he isn't trying to springboard a Hollywood career as he already has one. Point proven i say.
Huch'net
23-05-2005
It's on the front page of the Daily Star today, saying she wants to make it big in Hollywood.

Though since when have the Daily Star even been a reliable news source? It wouldn't suprise me if they got the information from here - I've seen them do it twice before!
Once when they stole images from a forum members proposal Big Brother house - they claimed it was the real thing!
timo_w2s
23-05-2005
I think Sally Phillips should be the new companion.
walaboobah
23-05-2005
Originally Posted by Huch'net:
“It's on the front page of the Daily Star today, saying she wants to make it big in Hollywood.

Though since when have the Daily Star even been a reliable news source? It wouldn't suprise me if they got the information from here - I've seen them do it twice before!
Once when they stole images from a forum members proposal Big Brother house - they claimed it was the real thing! ”

Well if it's been in the Daily Star, it must be true then!!!!!
walaboobah
23-05-2005
I like BP as Rose, so I hope this rumour doesn't come to fruition. As for the points about the new Doctor (David Tennant). He will, I believe be the tenth regeneration, which means there can only be two more doctors after him to play the part before the series will have to end!
*Eileen*
23-05-2005
Originally Posted by walaboobah:
“I like BP as Rose, so I hope this rumour doesn't come to fruition. As for the points about the new Doctor (David Tennant). He will, I believe be the tenth regeneration, which means there can only be two more doctors after him to play the part before the series will have to end!”

I really like Billie as Rose as well and agree it will be a shame if this is true, however I am not that surprised that she will be leaving not long after CE.

There is talk on other Who sites suggesting that Florence Hoath (Nancy) would make an excellent new companion and I quite lilke this idea. I just hope she doesn't get killed off in the next episode.

Lets just hope Captain Jack isn't a permanent feature as I think he was the worst thing about the last episode by a long way. Hopefully he won't become a permanent companion as, even though he is listed in appearing in all the remaining episodes of this series (at least I think it's all, if not all then certainly most of them), he doesn't show up on the castlist for the chrsitmas special so hopefully he won't be back next series.
gomezz
23-05-2005
I think Nancy would make a good companion.
Black Guardian
23-05-2005
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“I think Nancy would make a good companion.”

I thought that too! Think that they might go for a complete contrast to Billie's character of Rose if and when she does go.
Bigus_Dikus
23-05-2005
Originally Posted by iain_smith:
“the strength of the new Doctor Who is in the excellent writing..Chris Eccelston and Billie Pipers exits wil make no difference to the success of the show..to be honest any actor or actress could play the roles..the show has always been bigger than the actors who come and go constantly.”

What like the mess of Doctors that we had after Pertwee and Tom Baker? They were so crap that they killed the show off for some 14 years.

All this is very sad. We had just found a Doctor who is at least up with the greats if not beating them totally and what happens - Bye Bye after only one bloody season and now an assistant that everyone can take seriously and is a credit to modern day woman and she quits and many want to go back to the screaming helpless female stereotype of yesteryear (as long as she has big'ons )

All this "Dr Who is above anyone" - only said by the die-hard fans - now watch it DIE, HARD!

We have lost possibly the greatest Doctor there has been and now the greatest assistant.

Oh well, at least I just about young enough to still be alive in 14 years time when they BBC cock it up all over again.
Bigus_Dikus
23-05-2005
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“I think Nancy would make a good companion.”

What? A great character played an acted very well, but who the hell is going to relate to a girl/woman from 1941?

The whole point and the reason that Rose works so well is that she is a modern woman from today who doesn't just shut up and sit in the corner waiting for the man of the house to come home for supper.

walaboobah
23-05-2005
Originally Posted by Bigus_Dikus:
“What like the mess of Doctors that we had after Pertwee and Tom Baker? They were so crap that they killed the show off for some 14 years.

All this is very sad. We had just found a Doctor who is at least up with the greats if not beating them totally and what happens - Bye Bye after only one bloody season and now an assistant that everyone can take seriously and is a credit to modern day woman and she quits and many want to go back to the screaming helpless female stereotype of yesteryear (as long as she has big'ons )

All this "Dr Who is above anyone" - only said by the die-hard fans - now watch it DIE, HARD!

We have lost possibly the greatest Doctor there has been and now the greatest assistant.

Oh well, at least I just about young enough to still be alive in 14 years time when they BBC cock it up all over again.”

Just over half way through the first series and Ecclestone is now being claimed to be the greatest Doctor. Bit early to tell for me, and the fact that he is quitting after just one series will probably prevent him from being up there with the best of...

the same would have to be said of Rose

As I said earlier, the worst thing for me about CE leaving the show means that the show is now nearing it's natural end. If Tennant also quits after one series - there will only be two regenerations left before the show ends for good
walaboobah
23-05-2005
Originally Posted by Bigus_Dikus:
“ What? A great character played an acted very well, but who the hell is going to relate to a girl/woman from 1941?

The whole point and the reason that Rose works so well is that she is a modern woman from today who doesn't just shut up and sit in the corner waiting for the man of the house to come home for supper.

”

I thought he meant Nancy, Sven Goran-Erikson's bird!!!!
gomezz
23-05-2005
Originally Posted by Bigus_Dikus:
“The whole point and the reason that Rose works so well is that she is a modern woman from today who doesn't just shut up and sit in the corner waiting for the man of the house to come home for supper.”

Nancy didn't strike me as the church-mouse type. Very sparky. A 40's version of Rose if you like.
Bigus_Dikus
23-05-2005
Originally Posted by walaboobah:
“Just over half way through the first series and Ecclestone is now being claimed to be the greatest Doctor. Bit early to tell for me, and the fact that he is quitting after just one series will probably prevent him from being up there with the best of...

the same would have to be said of Rose

As I said earlier, the worst thing for me about CE leaving the show means that the show is now nearing it's natural end. If Tennant also quits after one series - there will only be two regenerations left before the show ends for good”

The regeneration thing can be written around in circles, so that won't be any problem.
For me, yes! Even after so few episodes, I would rate CE as one of, if not the greatest doctor.

And I come from the two greatest doctors eras (Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker)

*Eileen*
23-05-2005
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“Nancy didn't strike me as the church-mouse type. Very sparky. A 40's version of Rose if you like.”

Yes I'd agree with that as well

Outpost Gallifrey have a petition to make Nancy the next companion

Originally Posted by Bigus_Dikus:
“The regeneration thing can be written around in circles, so that won't be any problem.
For me, yes! Even after so few episodes, I would rate CE as one of, if not the greatest doctor.

And I come from the two greatest doctors eras (Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker)”

I really like CE's portrayal of the Doctor and would certainly rank him up there with Tom Baker and Pertwee (my era too ) though I do think that walaboobah has a point about one series ( ) maybe not being long enough to really make his mark.
walaboobah
23-05-2005
Jon Pertwee is definitely my favourite, closely followed by Patrick Troughton and Tom Baker. I actually didn't think Peter Davison was too bad as the Doctor but I completely lost interest during the Colin Baker / Sylvestor Mckoy eras!
jimboc
23-05-2005
Originally Posted by walaboobah:
“As I said earlier, the worst thing for me about CE leaving the show means that the show is now nearing it's natural end. If Tennant also quits after one series - there will only be two regenerations left before the show ends for good”

Why are people continuing to worry about this? It will be so easy to write a way around this. In the original series the timelords offer The Master a complete new life-cycle. Easy peasy.
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