I love that programme, and whenever I've watched it, the partners always got more upset than they did when Nadia was there.

If Nadia had been a real woman, she'd never have won BB. That's a fact. She escaped all the usual bitching that most female hm's are subjected to because nobody perceived her as a real woman. Just someone to feel sorry for.

Oh and every partner is the same? If any of them had a huge issue with trust in their partners then they shouldn't of applied for the show in the first place.

If Nadia was transsexual who sat around and did nothing at all, just sat there like a spud, would she still of won? No, she wouldn't. So, she didn't just win because she is a transsexual at all.

Where is your proof that she wasn't bitched about because no one thought of her as a real woman? Where is your proof that no one perceived her as a real woman?

It seems like you're just churning out your own theories and presenting them as facts because it suits you, not because they're actual facts at all.

as a man (lad what ever lol)
when i watched bb nadia came accross to me like any other woman (you all no what i mean only messing i love you girls really) any way back to what i was saying.
nadia to me was a woman she looked like a woman, she had the boobs woman want, and she look like any other female.

the night of the final when she won all i could see was a woman crying not a man, the woman nadia. she acted like a woman too. the only give away was her accent but that could easily be covered by saying its the portugees.

(that doesnt make sence does it? well you know when some one from a different country speaks english they sound strange lol that what im trying to say)

ne way im thick and cant explain things but if some one knows what im saying please help lol.

I'm a fan of Fool Around, and I saw with my own eyes that neither the girls or the boys regarded Nadia as a real woman.

And I read the forums. Nadia was never bitched about for going topless for example. I know what I know. It would take a paste a mile long to demonstrate proof.

nadia is a woman no matter what her past is, she said her self. as a man the woman was always there i was just given the wrong body (or summin along them lines)

How many transsexuals have won any reality TV show before (and after) the liar Nadia?

Have you seen the hairy-faced pictures that were in the Mirror, when she was Jorge. Not trying to be very girlie then.

There were at least two other transexuals. OK they didn't win.

What the hell? Neither the girls or boys on Fool Around regarded Nadia as a woman? I watched that show too, I may not be a huge fan of it but I watched it when Nadia was on it and if I felt that none of them regarded Nadia as a woman then I would have had something to say about it. Give me an example of where they didn't regard her as a woman. They all used "she" and "her" when speaking about her, if they didn't regard her as a woman then surely they'd of used "he" and "him" when speaking about her?

I read forums too and Nadia has been bitched about plenty for getting her tits out. I don't need you to paste everything out, just one or two links that will back up your claims.

we will never get to the end of this argument because really we are all right she is a woman and yeah in a way she is a man so there is no correct answer

She's felt like a woman since she was very young. As soon as she could get rid of the facial hair, she did, by having painful laser treatment. Even her father said she was very feminine when she was younger; she was even teased about it. She doesn't need to try and be girly because she IS a woman, so is girly anyway.

We all know Nadia got an easy ride because of her secret. Women did not bitch about her they way they did over Michelle, for example. Even after being exposed as a liar and a prostitute, it's still "Ah, poor Nadia". Women treated her more like a cross between a drag queen act, and a figure to be pitied.

And i've never seen anyone on Fool Around who caused as little jealousy or concern from the watching partners. They laughed instead.

She had stubble for christ's sake! She could have had a shave.

Michelle and Nadia are different people. Did it ever cross your mind that Nadia wasn't bitched about because people actually liked her? I have witnessed people bitching about Nadia plenty of times anyway.

I don't think any Big Brother housemate has been spared of criticism whether they have a secret or not.

The only way you could tell if the girls weren't threatened just because it was Nadia who was the Picker, would be to put them all back in again but with a different Picker. Which isn't going to happen. I can even upload the clip of Jo saying she was worried about Ben sleeping in Nadia's bedroom but as you're such a big fan of the show, I'm sure you witnessed it.

note: she had stubble.

past tense.

nadia is a woman

That is why I recognise that fact that as BB5 winner, she is indeed unique.

It is therefore, not an everyday thing and it is difficult, indeed impossible, from my point of view, not to mention her transsexuality in referring to her or her win as "the transsexual winner of BB5" as most news reports did, do and will continue to do.

http://www.spywire.net/upload/uploadFiles/nadiaman.jpg

David walliams

thats bad very bad

Maybe she knows something about Ben that we don't.

Erm...like?

Looks more like hairy Mary, except hairier.

Brings back memories.

Poor Nadia.

She has been through so much. Yes.

Go figure.

**ck, just spilt me coffee all over me.

Dare I ask how you come by this.

I'd rather you just came out and said what you're getting at, rather that put little hints forward. I have nothing to go on because I don't see what you're getting at.