Be fair, where is it written that an enemy has to be evil? Sometimes the innocent can be more dangerous.

Ah! But it was Cap'n Jack who changed history, the doctor was just putting it back on the rails...

So would CJ.

I thought she was the mum, only because I've seen tons of shows where the sister turns out to be the mum. But I didn't make the link with the whole 'Are u my mummy?' thing for some reason for which I feel very dumb!

But was it ever said that history recorded Jamie as dying at the event? Maybe a person was recorded as dying, but then one was...Jmaie was recorded as sying, but maybe also history does have that Jamie also travelling around and having a life afterwards with no connections to history...and it is in the middel of a war too...lots of people would have not been recorded dead who were and there may even have been some people recorded as dead who ran away or went missing...

How true... and how profound!

Someone earlier said the Dr and Cap'n Jack get a little friendlier. Sounds fun, but I do hope they keep the sexual ambivalance (sp?) of the Dr. I hope there will be no 'ow's your Father in the TARDIS!

My imaginary German friend would like to point out the Schlechter is the single masculine form of bad...not baddest or more bad...he doesn't like computer translations...

Plus if Captain Jack's piece of 'space junk' was what actually killed Jamie, as in falling on him or something, then 'proper' history would have had him as being alive, and Cpt. Jack was the one who caused history to go a bit wonky by having Jamie killed.

I know what I mean, translations may be available if I ever get my head straight

Very good point.

Something else that let it down was that all the girl had to say to the child was "I'm your mummy".

Well, this was my favourite episode of the series so far. Lots of adult themes, really well acted (by everyone) and it just looked great too.

I thought the story was very tight and kept me interested from start to finish. And I loved the whole 'my gun's bigger than your gun' stuff between The Doctor and Captain Jack.

It will be interesting to see how Jack's missing two-years ties in with the Bad Wolf storyline (I'm assuming it does).

By the way, Captain Jack's ship definitely had the same sound effect as the TARDIS interior from the eighties. Probably not an important plot point, but it could be relevant, you never know.

Just want to note that yet again we have had another episode where it wasn't so much the Doctors actions which saved the day. Again it was things the Doctor said or told people to do which really saved things: today it was Nacny and to a lesser extent CJ who saved everything. Without either nothing could have been saved. Yes the Doctor told Jack to go to his ship and told Nancy to go to Jamie, but realy he couldn't have done anything himself. Not sure if this important or not...

I've never fancied Dr Who before but could eat Chris. He's just the best . How many more episodes to go?

I noticed that too - definitely TARDIS like.

So what happened to the nanobots after they repaired the people? Did they go on fixing all the humans in London?

Oh yeah <lightbulb goes off in head smilie>
Damn tennis match making me lose my concentration

I'm fairly sure the Doctor said he'd upgraded them (conveniently!) and they would disappear/shut down after they'd fixed the people around the bomb site.

After all, if they weren't stopped it would end up as bad as the original problem. No one would die!

I quite like that, though - it makes him a catalyst for people to do good things, rather than him having to step in and save the day all the time. There's a definite theme to this series of 'the common man comes good' which I think makes it more interesting.

Perhaps it means nothing more than the fact that the series and the writing has modernised a lot - like, for example, the 'sidekick' having a much more active role in proceedings, instead of just being kidnapped a lot and looking pretty while screaming in terror..?

..maybe if I'd kept going with my German I would hav eknow this too...

...but still, maybe this now points at 'bad wolf' being a male...or at least something which is a masculine noun in German...if true it narrows the search down to only about a thrid of all nouns....but then again, the masculine part could just be a reference to the bomb...

And that was my general problem with this episode - everything was a bit too convenient.

RTD is getting very good at those throwaway lines to explain entire plot points isn't he (almost as good as George Lucas in Episode III )

The Doctor said he programmed the nanogenes to stop, or self destruct or something, after fixing the folks with altered DNA.

Glad I wasn't the only person who noticed the Santa Claus line as well...

As to the episode itself, this is the first time I've actually voted "fantastic!". Even "Dalek" I put very good, but tonight I was so hooked I didn't eat my dinner - couldn't face leaving the telly to put something in the oven

My first bad post about tonights DW.


I thought it was bobbins, and cringeworthy. I hope that although the one Slitheen returns next week it brings it back on course.

From about 6-8 months ago when I heard the name of the episode "the doctor dances" I thought what a naff title, cut out the dancing and the sexual innuendo and the story imho would have been better.

I think there was more sexual comments and Innuendo than in the whole history of Doctor Who the two parter raised Child Molestation or abuse, Teen Pregnancy, Homo-sexuality, Bi-Sexuality & Hetro-sexuality. Did/Was it really needed?

Although the backbone of the story was good and "mummy" had me in stitches for me there was just too much un-needed naffness.


That being said I would not stop watching the series, but the inclusion of the above raised issues just spoiled it for me!

Wolf is indeed a masculine noun.

OK, I haven't voted yet but I think I am going to choose either fair or poor.

The main grievance I have is with Captain Jack.
Damn he is annoying and is really spoiling this series for me.

I struggled to see the reason why Rose seemed to instantly trust him during last weeks episode. And I am even more confused as to why she still endures his presence this week. Jeez, even The Doctor seems to be warming to him. For what it's worth, it seems to me that this character has been shoehorned into the series just to annoy those people who were enjoying it up to this point.

And I think the ending was a little poor. Why would that ship of his not have a way to jetison the bomb?

It's already proven that it can teleport people, repair damaged tissue ,use some kind of tractor beam to stpo things in mid-air and also put things into statis. The plot device of having the ship unable to get rid of the bomb it was carrying seems contrived to say the least.

I was sat on the couch with my girlfriend, knowing full well that CJ appears in the rest of the series, hoping that if I wished hard enough I could alter the flow of events in the show and have that bomb blow his smary face out of existence.

I suppose I will have to put up with him for now, here's hoping he doesn't re-appear in the next series.

JohnnyWashNGo

Hardly "issues" surely? We're living in the 21st century now. Perhaps the only issue was to point out how these things used to be swept under the carpet years ago - leading to the sorts of child abuse, teenage pregnancy guilt, etc that happened back then going unnoticed and uncared for.

I bet he waited until Rose was asleep in her room in the TARDIS, and then made loads of secret visits to her home at Christmas time over the years as she was growing up, because he felt so bad about her dad's sacrifice in 'Father's Day'.

Aw bless.

Has anyone been keeping trac of the scores the episodes are getting weach week in our polls? I could go bak an find all the posts, but it seems like a ot of work, so if someone has been keeping a tally of the scores so far, could you post them all now so we can see what viewers reactions have been all the way along? Don't worry if you haven't, don't go looking for all the posts...if no one replies quite soon I might go find them for myself and them I'll psot them here...