so what did saskia say or do to deserve the bitching?, ive missed a lot of todays live feed
What did Saskia do?
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No it's not irrelevant, if you are gonna slag off someone who I know, then it's not on, how would you like it, if I slagged off somebody you know
Originally Posted by bigstunnerdude:
“I think Saskia is a secret suicide bomber she has such a problem with apparently. She'll destroy the Big Brother house and all the inmates soon. I mean she's packing more in that bra then just boobs. Cemtex anyone?”
“I think Saskia is a secret suicide bomber she has such a problem with apparently. She'll destroy the Big Brother house and all the inmates soon. I mean she's packing more in that bra then just boobs. Cemtex anyone?”
I think shes probably smuggling some immigrants past customs, in those puppies.
Originally Posted by WeatherfieldWil:
“No it's not irrelevant, if you are gonna slag off someone who I know, then it's not on”
“No it's not irrelevant, if you are gonna slag off someone who I know, then it's not on”
So its ok as long as you dont know them ?
Originally Posted by WeatherfieldWil:
“how would you like it, if I slagged off somebody you know”
“how would you like it, if I slagged off somebody you know”
I would accept it as inevitable if that person was on a reality TV show, and had voulantraily placed them selves up for public judgement and scrutiny.
Originally Posted by Mesostim:
“None of them...Mary may have some funny moments if she gets abducted again....
”
“None of them...Mary may have some funny moments if she gets abducted again....
”
If she does whilst she's in the house, will she be evicted for having contact with the outside world, or won't it count because the abductors are from another world?
Originally Posted by WhiteGuilt:
“yes only white people can be racist.......”
“yes only white people can be racist.......”
certainly that is true, to an extent.
Racism is not the same as prejudice or bigotry.
Racism is the exercise of power against one ethnic group, by a dominant ethnic group.
In England, for example, an Asian man, a Black Woman, a Kosovan refugee can very well be prejudiced or ignorant or hateful - but they do not have the power to be a racist.
Originally Posted by strange famous:
“certainly that is true, to an extent.
Racism is the exercise of power against one ethnic group, by a dominant ethnic group.
”
“certainly that is true, to an extent.
Racism is the exercise of power against one ethnic group, by a dominant ethnic group.
”
No it is not. Your definiton is incorrect.
Originally Posted by strange famous:
“
In England, for example, an Asian man, a Black Woman, a Kosovan refugee can very well be prejudiced or ignorant or hateful - but they do not have the power to be a racist.”
“
In England, for example, an Asian man, a Black Woman, a Kosovan refugee can very well be prejudiced or ignorant or hateful - but they do not have the power to be a racist.”
That is a wrong definition of racisim. Here is the correct one:
n.
[list=1][*]The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.[*] Discrimination or prejudice based on race.[/list]You dont have to be the dominant race in a society to be racist. Thats not what the definition means.
Originally Posted by WeatherfieldWil:
“IIRC, I believe at one time or another,she had a black boyfriend”
“IIRC, I believe at one time or another,she had a black boyfriend”
Doesn't really prove anything though (I've already given my personal point of view in this thread), because it's like saying: "Yeah, I'm not a racialist because I've got a black friend!"
Originally Posted by JL:
“Can't state an opinion these days for fear of being branded racist. I didn't see any problem with what she said.”
“Can't state an opinion these days for fear of being branded racist. I didn't see any problem with what she said.”
Neither can I.
Although it was a bad move in the PC world.
(this doesn't mean I agree or disagree with what she said btw)
She expressed an opinion ( as in interview for BB, off the top of her head what she thinks) as many others do which boils down to the economic state of the country not the ethnicity of the country.
If people are not allowed to air an opinion with out being jumped on then we do not live in a democracy
The word "racist" has lost all objective meaning and is just a way for one group of people to categorise a person, or persons, for propagandistic purposes.
The correct term would be "racially prejudiced" anyway.
The correct term would be "racially prejudiced" anyway.
Originally Posted by DillholeMcGinty:
“No it is not. Your definiton is incorrect.
That is a wrong definition of racisim. Here is the correct one:
n.
[list=1][*]The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.[*] Discrimination or prejudice based on race.[/list]You dont have to be the dominant race in a society to be racist. Thats not what the definition means.”
“No it is not. Your definiton is incorrect.
That is a wrong definition of racisim. Here is the correct one:
n.
[list=1][*]The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.[*] Discrimination or prejudice based on race.[/list]You dont have to be the dominant race in a society to be racist. Thats not what the definition means.”
unless you are Carroll's Humpty Dumpty - I'm afraid the word does not mean what you mean by it. The fact you have found some children's dictionary definition of a word if not relevant to the social definition of the concept.
Firstly "race" is a false concept in itself. "Race" does not exist, and no person belongs to any "race"
Second, the term racism is not the same as bigotry that happens to be based on ethnicity. Anyone can write a definition of a word that says or means anything, but as much as language is fluid it is also fixed - and "racism" as a concept specifically refers to the exercise of power.
Which really is beside the point. Saskia may or may not be a bigot, regardless of what label people ascribe to it.
Originally Posted by jojo the joyful:
“Neither can I.
Although it was a bad move in the PC world.
(this doesn't mean I agree or disagree with what she said btw)
She expressed an opinion ( as in interview for BB, off the top of her head what she thinks) as many others do which boils down to the economic state of the country not the ethnicity of the country.
If people are not allowed to air an opinion with out being jumped on then we do not live in a democracy”
“Neither can I.
Although it was a bad move in the PC world.
(this doesn't mean I agree or disagree with what she said btw)
She expressed an opinion ( as in interview for BB, off the top of her head what she thinks) as many others do which boils down to the economic state of the country not the ethnicity of the country.
If people are not allowed to air an opinion with out being jumped on then we do not live in a democracy”
democracy, demos, means the rule OF the people.
The right to state offensive opinions without criticism is totally unrelated to the concept of democracy.
I think you'd be best off ignoring Strange Famous
Although I will post this...
Oxford English Dictionary website...
[f. RACE n.2 + -ISM; cf. F. racisme (Robert 1935).]
a. The theory that distinctive human characteristics and abilities are determined by race. b. = RACIALISM
Although I will post this...
Oxford English Dictionary website...
[f. RACE n.2 + -ISM; cf. F. racisme (Robert 1935).]
a. The theory that distinctive human characteristics and abilities are determined by race. b. = RACIALISM
Originally Posted by strange famous:
“unless you are Carroll's Humpty Dumpty - I'm afraid the word does not mean what you mean by it. The fact you have found some children's dictionary definition of a word if not relevant to the social definition of the concept.”
“unless you are Carroll's Humpty Dumpty - I'm afraid the word does not mean what you mean by it. The fact you have found some children's dictionary definition of a word if not relevant to the social definition of the concept.”
Wrong again. It most certianly does not mean what you mean by it.
It does not refer to an exercise in power it refers to a predudice or bias based on race. There is no pre-requisite for the power to weild it. In short you are wrong.
The rudeness your response regarding the "childrens dictionary" where i apparently found my definition reveals that this whole response has more to to with your annoyance of being corrected, than anything else.
Originally Posted by strange famous:
“ Anyone can write a definition of a word that says or means anything”
“ Anyone can write a definition of a word that says or means anything”
Agreed,you did that extactly, and you are incorrect.
Originally Posted by strange famous:
“but as much as language is fluid it is also fixed - and Racism" as a concept specifically refers to the exercise of power.”
“but as much as language is fluid it is also fixed - and Racism" as a concept specifically refers to the exercise of power.”
Again, wrong. It does not. It refers to a predudical bias based on ethnicity or race
Making up your own definitions of the a word to fit into your incorrect hypothesis and hoping no-one will notice is not going to work
Racism does not mean what you said it did. Not in this context or any other.
Originally Posted by Juicy Bug:
“I think you'd be best off ignoring Strange Famous
Although I will post this...
Oxford English Dictionary website...
[f. RACE n.2 + -ISM; cf. F. racisme (Robert 1935).]
a. The theory that distinctive human characteristics and abilities are determined by race. b. = RACIALISM”
“I think you'd be best off ignoring Strange Famous
Although I will post this...
Oxford English Dictionary website...
[f. RACE n.2 + -ISM; cf. F. racisme (Robert 1935).]
a. The theory that distinctive human characteristics and abilities are determined by race. b. = RACIALISM”
I shall be taking your advice, from this point onwards.
Originally Posted by moogester:
“If she does whilst she's in the house, will she be evicted for having contact with the outside world, or won't it count because the abductors are from another world? ”
“If she does whilst she's in the house, will she be evicted for having contact with the outside world, or won't it count because the abductors are from another world?
”
I think a lot depends on what newspapers they have in the foyer of the space ship...
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