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Max says "Go back your own country" to Makosi? (merged)
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melodytoon
29-05-2005
Originally Posted by Lethal B:
“are you people stupid?.....whether it was go to another countries BB or go back to your own country..its all the same...”

No it isn't, especially if you take the statement in the context in which it is made.
stevep1981
29-05-2005
I thought I'd have a go at doing some Live Updates, my browser crashed as this happened, and I didn't want to post it after in case I got the context wrong!

But gist of it was that Mekosi had said something to him about English being her tenth language, and he was saying that if she was better at speaking other languages then she should "**** off to some other country and go on their Big Brother".

Still pretty harsh!
Lethal B
29-05-2005
Originally Posted by melodytoon:
“It started off with her winding him up about the way he speaks, including saying that he didn't need to swear when he spoke to her. He then asked her if she couldn't understand English, to which she made the comment about English being her 10th language. You know the rest... I'm not saying what he said was right or nice, but he's admitted in the loft that one minute she can be nice & he can talk to her, & the next she's winding him up. He also said that she talks down to people. She did provoke him into responding nastily, though I don't think what he said was appropriate or necessary. However, he didn't say what the OP accused him of, which is why I had to defend him (never thought that would happen ).

I know Makosi's got a task to do, but she needs to play it a bit more cleverly. If she makes her behaviour too personal, something tells me that some of it won't be forgiven or forgotten even if she explains why she did it.”

who started the argument?Max did.All makosi asked was for derik to be allowed to sleep in the bedroom and everyone else move to the living room.
Lethal B
29-05-2005
i have sky+ i rewinded it.The reason makosi said english was her tenth language was because she didn't articulate what she said properly.It wasn't to show off.he misinterpreted why she said that.
melodytoon
29-05-2005
She asked a question, & the result was a conversation that just got out of hand. First he felt like he was being expected to do something unnecessary, then he felt like he was being talked down to. She in turn felt like he was being disrespectful to her. Six of one, half dozen of the other.
BigSpacedFan
29-05-2005
so do you think he looks like scott mills or what?
Alrightmate
29-05-2005
This was what Maxwell said in response to Makosi telling him she could speak 10 languages.

Maxwell said in a rage, "Well why doesn't she go back to her own country then?"

Sounds well out of order to me.

Calling Kemal a poofter too.

I suppose some would say he's only speaking his mind, and if anyone disagrees it's "PC gone mad".

But he sounds an outright bigot to me.

I can't see how asking why Makosi doesn't go back to her own country can be seen as anything other than as a racist insult.

Maybe someone might see him as a "bit of a character", but so far it looks to me that he has a very unpleasant, hateful side to him.
Sunnys
29-05-2005
I dont see it as racist.. You are just picking bits out of the conversation...You should have listened to it all..it sounded reasonable (I am mixed raced by the way...just FYI)

I was shocked at the 'poofer' comment tho... lol
Neck_Romancer
29-05-2005
Kemal IS a poofter!

I agree it's a bit OTT but that's why we all rubber neck this train crash. Would you rather is was gay niceness all the time?

It needs livening up. If he was to say something about the colour of her skin then that would be too much IMO but it's good to see someone having a go at her.
Alrightmate
29-05-2005
Originally Posted by Sunnys:
“I dont see it as racist.. You are just picking bits out of the conversation...You should have listened to it all..it sounded reasonable (I am mixed raced by the way...just FYI)

I was shocked at the 'poofer' comment tho... lol”

I don't care if you're mixed race or not. It doesn't change anything.

I don't want to pre-judge him, and it's still early days,..but that comment in itself sounded racist to me. Might not be, but it looks like it to me at the moment.

How can the comment not be racist whether you take it on it's own or not?
Sunnys
29-05-2005
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“I don't care if you're mixed race or not. It doesn't change anything.

I don't want to pre-judge him, and it's still early days,..but that comment in itself sounded racist to me. Might not be, but it looks like it to me at the moment.

How can the comment not be racist whether you take it on it's own or not?”

I didnt say you cared
Alrightmate
29-05-2005
Originally Posted by Sunnys:
“I didnt say you cared ”


I never said you did.

I meant it doesn't make any difference to what Maxwell said if you're mixed race or not.
Trashcan
29-05-2005
He probably is a racist when he's alone with his mates (seems the sort).. but until he starts on about gas chambers and putting people in them I can't say for definite.
steg1988
29-05-2005
Now Now guys! Let's just conclude that Max is a T**t!
jimmya1
29-05-2005
Not all this racist crap again PLEASE

If Bubble had said to Brian " Go back to Ireland you puff " no one would have said anything so why this ?
Neck_Romancer
29-05-2005
According to someone you're racist if you don't fancy her

I must be Hitler because I think she's seriously ugly
jackbristow
29-05-2005
Originally Posted by Neck_Romancer:
“According to someone you're racist if you don't fancy her

I must be Hitler because I think she's seriously ugly ”

i agree m8 shes really ugly looks like a gremlin to me
Sunnys
29-05-2005
Quote:
“According to someone you're racist if you don't fancy her

I must be Hitler because I think she's seriously ugly”

LMAO... I know the forum is turning strange.....


Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“ I never said you did.”

Yes you did Here...

Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“ I don't care if you're mixed race or not.”

Alrightmate
29-05-2005
Originally Posted by Sunnys:
“
Yes you did Here...



”

Originally Posted by Sunny:
“Originally Posted by Sunnys
I didnt say you cared ”

To which I replied, I didn't say you did.

Not me...you.

Alrightmate
29-05-2005
Originally Posted by Neck_Romancer:
“According to someone you're racist if you don't fancy her

I must be Hitler because I think she's seriously ugly ”



According to who?
I never said that. I guess you are talking about someone in another thread. Because nobody here has said anything of the sort.
starsky
29-05-2005
he didnt call him a poofter, he said he "opened his poofy little mouth". fair point i thought. Max is THE most genuine person ever to be in BB, you shouldn't knock him for that, especially when he directs his comments at the fakes and frauds and those putting on an act.
Mo@reality
29-05-2005
I would imagine that that statement "go back to your own country" could be classed as racist if Makosi was actually English. But she isn't so what's the big deal. If she had been an australian and it was said it wouldn't be a problem, but you shouldn't take it as racist just because she's black.
SIMPLY AMAZING
29-05-2005
I hate it when people say that PC crap...its just a way to ignore the truth and be ignorant..We all know what maxwell meant when he said piss off back to your own country...as its something that you mean as a racist comment to minorities,..,,so stop acting stupid...there was absolutly NO REASON for him to even say it...i mean what could provoke him to say it? hes one of those hidden racists and we will see more of it during BB
jimmya1
29-05-2005
load of crap
Orchid50
29-05-2005
Originally Posted by starsky:
“he didnt call him a poofter, he said he "opened his poofy little mouth". fair point i thought. Max is THE most genuine person ever to be in BB, you shouldn't knock him for that, especially when he directs his comments at the fakes and frauds and those putting on an act.”

TOTALLY AGREE!
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