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Max says "Go back your own country" to Makosi? (merged)
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r.a.i.n.b.o.w
29-05-2005
And I quote:

Originally Posted by r.a.i.n.b.o.w:
“Max did NOT say "go back to your own country". He DID say: "if she can speak 10 different languages, why can't she f*** off to another country and go on the Big Brother there?"

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I was watching at the time
cgbrannigan
29-05-2005
Originally Posted by Lyris:
“Uh... he's bisexual.”

yes but my point was that in my experience people dont use the word poofter to describe a gay man they use the word poofter to describe a camp man. Kemal and Craig are both raging poofters but Kemal, at least, is not a gay. Marco last year and Brian in BB2 were both poofs, Josh, Derek and Daniel - not so much.
Alrightmate
29-05-2005
I find it quite disgusting that after having been offline for several hours, several people have posted in this thread to accuse me of lying, twisting the truth, or have some agenda, and even actually say that I myself am racist.

I really should be pressing the alert button for people posting such claims about me.

My post was not posted with malicious intent where I have deliberately decided to make things up and twist the truth.
I really don't know why people would want to twist things around and accuse me of lying or twisting the truth for some reason to attack me personally,...it's simply against the rules.

I haven't even directly accused Maxwell of being racist, I have just said how things looked at this point in time, and have said that I will wait and see how things go over the weeks.
I thought that my contributions have been quite reasonable, and I haven't flown off the handle ranting and raving as some others who are pointing fingers at me appear to have.


Rather than go crazy pressing alert buttons, I'll re-post what I posted earlier in the thread.


Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“There were two comments apparently.

The first comment was made directly to Makosi, where Maxwell told her to "Go to another country then" in response to Makosi going on about English being her 10th language.

The second comment was when Maxwell recalled that row with Makosi to somebody else (Anthony), where he told the person that he said that he told Makosoi to "go back to her own country then"

Maybe the first comment could be explained away, but I thought the second comment when he recalled the situation to somebody else, was worse than what he said in the original situation he was referring to.

And Maxwell talking about someone shutting their puffy mouth,..isn't good.

He still looks bigoted to me from what he's said. I'll wait and see how he comes across over the weeks to see if I can think differently. I doubt it though at the moment.”

I didn't lie or make anything up,...I saw with my own eyes Maxwell recalling what he had said to Makosi to somebody else (Anthony, I think).
So if I have got something wrong, it's only due to Maxwell's own recollection of the incident.

It's not a good feeling when lots of posters all jump in and accuse you of being a liar whose motivation for posting was out of order.

I haven't accused any other poster of being a liar, or being racist. If I did It would be unacceptable.
Bibbles
29-05-2005
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
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I haven't accused any other poster of being a liar, or being racist. If I did It would be unacceptable.”

As a small aside what if you could prove they were either of the two-is it still unacceptable?
Eusebius
29-05-2005
It doesn't matter so much what his actual words were, as in his sentiment behind it. His subsequent comment makes more clear what that was, and it certainly betrayed his tendency to xenophobia at least.
MaxCherry
29-05-2005
I sence he's a tad racist. He just made a slur about Makosi's afropuff.
Alrightmate
29-05-2005
Originally Posted by Bibbles:
“As a small aside what if you could prove they were either of the two-is it still unacceptable? ”

Yes, it would still be unacceptable.
I would be breaking the forum rules which are quite clear about this.
It would be unconstructive, and it would be making a personal attack on another forum member.

Bibbles
29-05-2005
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Yes, it would still be unacceptable.
I would be breaking the forum rules which are quite clear about this.
It would be unconstructive, and it would be making a personal attack on another forum member.

”

so on this forum it is Ok to write lies and no one can say you are a liar because it is against the forum rules?

that seems wierd and would make for a crappy forum imo.I can't believe that's true.
Alrightmate
29-05-2005
Originally Posted by Bibbles:
“so on this forum it is Ok to write lies and no one can say you are a liar because it is against the forum rules?

that seems wierd and would make for a crappy forum imo.I can't believe that's true.”

Well no, you can't really just accuse somebody publicly of being a liar, whether you believe it's true or not.

I think the forum's generally fine as far as rules are concerned.
I don't think it makes a crappy forum if you can't personally attack somebody. I think it makes it better because it's more inviting to people if they feel they can post without getting somebody having a go at them.
After all, we aren't here to judge each other,..it's the show we're meant to be talking about.

Getmeoutofhyaaa
30-05-2005
Originally Posted by SIMPLY AMAZING:
“Maxwell is a hidden racist...I could tell even from the beginning how he was looking at Science and Makosi when they entered the house, it was as if he had a disguisted look on his face...”


Hmm, the very definition of prejudice.


No-one will take you seriously when you come out with garbage like this.
TheSarge
30-05-2005
Max does seem to be quite prejudice; I’ve also noticed that he does seem to be racist, homophobic and is defiantly sexist. I’m not saying that’s acceptable, but hopefully some of his beliefs will be questioned during his stay in the house - If not, then he won’t last very long because people will not warm to his Alf Garnet like persona.
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