sam does let herself down with the horrible noises she makes

I like her laugh.

And by not saying much she avoids talking endless drivel.

Will Kemal, Lesleh and co ever shut up?

Vanessa hasn't sparkled at all but if Craig does go she will be forced to interact more with others which should do her some good, whereas Sam seems incapable of any real interactions with anyone

According to you...

Her interactions seem perfectly real to me, unlike the cosmic fakeness of so many of the show-ruining others.

Sam could do with saying something. I think her gameplan consists entirely of having sex with Anthony, and launching herself as the next abi titmuss.

My point was that Sams only real noticable interactions have been flirting, giggling and the arguement tonight.

Vanessa has done less but I can't see an event that would make Sam come out of her shell whereas Vanessa would have that forced on her if Craig leaves.

Personally though I don't think either of them stand much chance.

Kemal comes off best because he just rocks.

Err you must have missed his fight with Max then which even he admitted to Makosi later he came off looking stupid from.

It's a shame really since I have found Kemal pretty entertaining so far but he just kept putting his foot in his mouth in the fight with Max, luckily it seems for him it ended with them on reasonably civil terms much like his early week fight with Science so he shouldn't take too much long term flak from it unless Max decides to nominate him repeatedly over it

Yep, agree. That's her plan.

There is more, occasionally; but as I keep complaining, they don't have her on screen that much.

We don't even see Max or Anthony very much, unless they're interacting with Kemal or one of the others who are constantly being shown.

Or she'd just sit around while Lesleh or Kemal or Makosi or Mary talked rubbish. Taking Craig out would only regroup them slightly.

Vanessa might, but female voters will never want Sam to win unless something very unexpected happens.

Yes there is more occasionally but very little compared to nearly everyone else.


I've seen plenty of Max and Anthony on the live feed, in fact they have often cut away to them chatting from arguements, bitching sessions, etc. Also I've seen them in the pool pretty much every night with Sam and they continue to be entertaining and fun to watch but Sam never seems to contribute noticeably to the conversation other than an occasional 3 word comment or a giggle.

The most I have heard out of Sam was in the midst of the fights this morning and although it was refreshing to see her interacting a little it would be nice to see her do so when it doesn't involve a slagging match between her and Lesley

I've seen them, but Craig's bunch, or Kemal or Makosi are on much more often.

I don't think they have been very fun or entertaining in the pool. Sam's contributions seem all the conversations deserve.

Maybe I'm just unlucky in when I choose to watch. I watched most of the night, but didn't see Sam in the midst of any fights. Supposedly she had some clash with Lesleh. (When was that?)

Apart from the obvious, what is there to like about Sam?

Sam had 2 fights with Lesleh - the first of which was off camera but could be heard and was talked about extensively - Lesley came to ask Sam to appologise for calling Craig camp (yes I know rediculous since he is) to which Sam replied get a life and then swearing from both sides ensued. Then later as "revenge" Lesley went into the bedroom and chucked a water bomb of some sort onto Sam, who shouted a curse (exact words escape me but should be in the WHATM thread somewhere) and then came out of the bedroom and confronted Lesley in her underwear (this part was muted so possibly it will be in the highlights tommorrow).

Edit should add that if you're a Sam fan for the obvious reason you should kick yourself for missing the second fight as her underwear was, shall we say, revealing

[Of course! The jealous / hate effect will see to that.[/quote]


Yawwwwn, old argument, sick of hearing it, it doesn't wash.

So you say, but anyone could say that about most of the arguments made here, since they have also often been made before.

Most of the negative comments made about Sam are typical of the "jealous" reaction: that she's not really good looking, or if she is, others are more so, or her personality stinks, or she lacks one, and so tediously on.

ooooh anyone have any caps of that ?

To be honest I think Derek has come out best as he had nothing to do with it all. I feel the house is gonna implode very soon and at this rate there could be 4-5 people up for eviction each week as they all nominate each other because of the constant squabbling. I'm amazed nobody has walked out as I wouldn't have been able to stay there with all those squabbling kids. Public pls kick Craig out the house as Mary is a far more rounded person than he will ever be.

Thanks for the summary. Lesleh seems to favour water revenge (against Max, Sam). If she tried that on me, I'd dump something much messier on her in return. Sam showed admirable restraint.

I don't much care what she's wearing or not. She's watchable even when covered up or mostly under water. The rest of them are all words.

Saskia is the only housemate who i am liking this morning. The house is full of fruitcakes. But i am enjoying it. heehe

Nothing. And for a queer like me, not even the obvious suffices. Snidey cow, I can't stick her!

Derek came out of last night with a better rep but he and Mary have been arguing this morning so I don't think anyone in the house hasn't been involved in an arguement in the last 48 hours now...

I don't like Anthony and find him general waste of space but last night he was the one who surprised me the most with his quiet refusal to back down to Mary's repeated attempted insults and belittling remarks, the others were just carrying on as usual.

Craig was making fantastic points and then he made generalisations about the other group and looked stupid and it became boring. However, I have more respect for him now for letting it out although I would have prefered it if he had sad it to their faces and named names.