Is it just me or is this very misleading.

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crazyjim72

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by lee18xx:
“This thread will be closed by an upper God if the personal insults continue.

RE: Paying £10 for the airtime

You pay Fresh £10, which they then put on a SIM card and send out to you. The SIM card is then credited with £10 which YOU can use right until the last penny, therefore meaning YOU have gotten the most out of the £10 you have spent, meaning your SIM card was free.

Like somebody has already said, it's a good marketing tool that the CPW/Fresh have used on the mentioned website - it's been used by many companies before and certainly isn't misleading.

No, its not misleading (for your silly little vote)”

I am afraid it is misleading.

If my vote is silly then why vote?

Silly billy

crazyjim72

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by munta:
“No - you are paying £10 for the air time and the sim if free.

You dont get anything for nothing in this world - you may realise that once you have left school, grown up and left home. Maybe got a job, a house, a wife/husband and have kids.

Maybe you will realise that an advert that says

Free sim plus £10 airtime from £10 means something costs at least £10

You will then realise that expecting a sim card to come with £10 credit and you not paying a penny is not going to happen. You will also realize that if something says FREE, it is not talking about competely free of cost but means free as part of a package.

ie Free x when you purchase Y

Come back when you have some grasp of commerce and then we can discuss what is and isn't a valid advert”

My my,took you a while to come up with that didn't it.
Did i hit a nerve? lol,if you can not take it do not dish it out.

I suggest you find a hobby other than looking at porn on the internet and get out more.

Have a great life,(stuck at home like Norman M Bates)

I will spell it out for you like mummy does

If

You

Have

To

Pay

For

Something

Then

It

Is

Not

Free

And = plus

It infers that you are getting the sim and the £10 credit for Free.

Go ask your local Citizens Advice or mummy,if you have one that is.

Not my fault you can not count.

Back to your bedroom Norman.

Catamaran

03-06-2005

Just to p~~~ everybody off further.......i want the sim card without the credit, what do you think my chances are???

hahaha

Dr.Phlox

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by crazyjim72:
“My my,took you a while to come up with that didn't it.
Did i hit a nerve? lol,if you can not take it do not dish it out.

I suggest you find a hobby other than looking at porn on the internet and get out more.

Have a great life,(stuck at home like Norman M Bates)

I will spell it out for you like mummy does

If

You

Have

To

Pay

For

Something

Then

It

Is

Not

Free

And = plus

It infers that you are getting the sim and the £10 credit for Free.

Go ask your local Citizens Advice or mummy,if you have one that is.

Not my fault you can not count.

Back to your bedroom Norman.”

In your style...

You
don't
have
to
pay
for
the
SIM
but
the
air
time
costs
a
tenner.

Nowhere on that page does it infer the £10 air time is free.

It's free SIM PLUS £10 air time, not free sim WITH £10 air time. You are buying both items together, however the SIM part is free. Plus means "in addition to" not "comes with".

If you can't figure that out, or speak to other FMs in a sensible non-pisstaking manner, please don't speak to them at all.

DP

munta

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by crazyjim72:
“A load of badly written vitreol”

2 questions for you.

1 - can you find any company giving something away for free on the highsteet. That is one where you does not have to pay for something. It can be mobile phone, clothes, music or anything.
2 - why ask for peoples opinions only to get into a hissy fit if they disagree with you?

Oh - any you know nothing about me. Please refrain from posting any comments about my self as they will obviously be untrue.
Last edited by munta : 03-06-2005 at 10:13

lee18xx

03-06-2005

This is getting silly now, crazyjim - Just accept the majority of people see this as a clever marketing tool and to the majority of people, it is not misleading. Munta, don't react to his childish comments because it's making you look bad. my friend.

munta

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by lee18xx:
“This is getting silly now, crazyjim - Just accept the majority of people see this as a clever marketing tool and to the majority of people, it is not misleading. Munta, don't react to his childish comments because it's making you look bad. my friend.”

Ok - you are probably right. I do have to take issue with one thing he said though

Originally Posted by crazyjim72:
“Go ask your local Citizens Advice or mummy,if you have one that is.”

Does he actualy realise how offensive this comment is?

gazf

03-06-2005

i must agree with the fact that carphone warehouses advertising seems to be a very dodgy afair, my friend recently paid £280 for a siemens sf65 from there, having seen in there guide that it does video (check it out for yourselves!). However, it first appeared that it didnt seem to have video on it and so we searched in the instruction manual, on the internet and in mobile phone magazines and nowhere did it say anything about the phone being able to do video!!! what a bunch of liars, they claimed it wasnt their fault, we shouyld have looked at the manual before purchase, how can you look at a boxed sealed manual before you purchase the phone!!!!!!!!!!!!! if that is not false advertisement then what is!!

Dr.Phlox

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by gazf:
“i must agree with the fact that carphone warehouses advertising seems to be a very dodgy afair, my friend recently paid £280 for a siemens sf65 from there, having seen in there guide that it does video (check it out for yourselves!). However, it first appeared that it didnt seem to have video on it and so we searched in the instruction manual, on the internet and in mobile phone magazines and nowhere did it say anything about the phone being able to do video!!! what a bunch of liars, they claimed it wasnt their fault, we shouyld have looked at the manual before purchase, how can you look at a boxed sealed manual before you purchase the phone!!!!!!!!!!!!! if that is not false advertisement then what is!!”

Then request a refund as it wasn't fit for the purpose it was intended for (video calling) when their advertising clearly stated it did.

f they refuse, request to speak to a manager and if they still refuse, just say "OK I am taking this down to the local trading standards (with a copy of the ad)" and then see what they do.

DP

lee18xx

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by munta:
“Ok - you are probably right. I do have to take issue with one thing he said though

Does he actualy realise how offensive this comment is?”

That is an offensive comment, and If I were you i'd hit the Alert button.

munta

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by Dr.Phlox:
“Then request a refund as it wasn't fit for the purpose it was intended for (video calling) when their advertising clearly stated it did.

f they refuse, request to speak to a manager and if they still refuse, just say "OK I am taking this down to the local trading standards (with a copy of the ad)" and then see what they do.

DP”

Agreed - a text book example of mis-selling. If they do not agree to the refund then trading standards will have them over a barrel.

munta

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by lee18xx:
“That is an offensive comment, and If I were you i'd hit the Alert button.”

I'd rather get an apology and I'm sure Beth is very busy with the BB6 forum at the moment.

gazf

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by munta:
“Agreed - a text book example of mis-selling. If they do not agree to the refund then trading standards will have them over a barrel.”

well if it were my phone id have been in the shop refusing to leave until they sorted it out for me but it was my mate who bought it and he was just like, 'oh well, ill just keep the phone' wish i had £280 to waste on a rubbish phone, just amke sure none of you go out and get this phone thinking it does video as they are liars, in fact i would reccommend that none of you buy anything from carphone warehouse!!! here are two prime examples in just one thread about how they are trying to get money out of you through false advertisement!!!

munta

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by gazf:
“well if it were my phone id have been in the shop refusing to leave until they sorted it out for me but it was my mate who bought it and he was just like, 'oh well, ill just keep the phone' wish i had £280 to waste on a rubbish phone, just amke sure none of you go out and get this phone thinking it does video as they are liars, in fact i would reccommend that none of you buy anything from carphone warehouse!!! here are two prime examples in just one thread about how they are trying to get money out of you through false advertisement!!!”

The example you gave is definately false advertising. As far as the example in this thread is concerned, I do not believe that to be false as the price is clearly stated prior to purchase. IE you know exactly what you are buying at the point of sale.

crazyjim72

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by baz016:
“No, I have to admit when I first read it, it appeared to be a free simcard with £10 free credit, they could definitely have worded it better.”

Thankyou my fellow

crazyjim72

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by Benuk73:
“I think its the + that is misleading, that should read FREE sim (& if it included £10 of credit) including £10 of airtime, and it wouldnt have thrown you. £10 is the charge for the credit so the sim is free.?”

See it is not just me,thankyou

crazyjim72

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by McCririck:
“It is deliberately worded slightly misleading. What they apparently should say is Free SIM card when you buy £10 credit. No?”

See another example

crazyjim72

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by zoton2:
“Heres when it can be misleading :

FREE sim plus £10 airtime

If you make the 'plus' into a + it makes this

FREE sim + £10 airtime

Then + ussually stands for and so then it this :

FREE sim and £10 airtime

which some people think it mean

FREE sim and FREE £10 airtime

as it says Free 1 + 2, get it?”

and another one

crazyjim72

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by lee18xx:
“Without sounding cruel or patronizing:

I think its down to the reader's intelligence when seeing and interpreting pricing strategies like this - we should all just agree to disagree.”

I did not think it was free,i was pointing out that it is intended to mislead people.

crazyjim72

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by munta:
“It may be patronising but it appears to be the OPs prefered language

Ok - perhaps I should never have gotten involved in a thread where the OP asks for peoples opinions and then gets irate because someone disagrees with their views. But hay ho - this is DS after all.

PS. I also agree with your post but just wanted to set the record straight.”

Please refrain from using text speak or you will be banned.

crazyjim72

03-06-2005

Please refrain from using text speak or you will be banned.

crazyjim72

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by lee18xx:
“That is an offensive comment, and If I were you i'd hit the Alert button.”

If you do not intend to read back at what has been posted about me then i suggest you refrain from making silly comments.

crazyjim72

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by munta:
“Ok - you are probably right. I do have to take issue with one thing he said though

Does he actualy realise how offensive this comment is?”

If you can not take it do not dish it out.

How many times do i have to repeat myself to you?

munta

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by crazyjim72:
“If you do not intend to read back at what has been posted about me then i suggest you refrain from making silly comments.”

I take it an appology isn't forth coming then?

crazyjim72

03-06-2005

Originally Posted by Dr.Phlox:
“In your style...

You
don't
have
to
pay
for
the
SIM
but
the
air
time
costs
a
tenner.

Nowhere on that page does it infer the £10 air time is free.

It's free SIM PLUS £10 air time, not free sim WITH £10 air time. You are buying both items together, however the SIM part is free. Plus means "in addition to" not "comes with".

If you can't figure that out, or speak to other FMs in a sensible non-pisstaking manner, please don't speak to them at all.

DP”

If you do not intend to read back at what has been posted about me then i suggest you refrain from making silly comments.

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