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Game-playing and tactics
rudi
02-06-2005
I am very pleased to see, at last, a group of HM's who are actually jostling for position and all seem to have tactics in mind to some degree. Now clearly they are all hoping to win or be highly placed, and none want to leae early. They know the potential rewards in terms of (dubious) fame and money that will come their way if they do well.

The level of sophistication of their tactical manoeuvrings however, is quite distinct. Lesley, Saskia, Vanessa, Anthony and Maxwell do seem to be the most like previous HM's and are hoping to get by on being popular, quiet, sexy, or hard working. They all want to be "one of the lads". Previous "one of the lads" winners have included Craig BB1 and that bonde gell who supports the Arsenal.

Sam, Science, Makosi, Derek, and Craig all seem to have the view that this is an intellectual battle of the brains and willpower. They believe that they have the ability to manipulate the other HM's so that they can survive longer, and that when faced with a public vote can impress the cameras enough to progress further too. I call this bunch "The Players" and commend them for it.

Kemal and Mary are the two jokers in the pack, who I believe know that they have little chance of winning, but are using the BB stage to launch their personalities, such as they are, upon the GB public. They are banking on the opther serious HM's not viewing them as a threat and allowing them to remain, at least into the 5th week.

I am sure that the tactics of all three groups will develop as we go along and lose some of them. The "Players" will set the tone right to the end, but I know that the public are strangely wary of any HM who is clearly playing to win.

Anyone other opinions on the Game-playing and tactics used by the HM's?

Rudi ™
rudi
02-06-2005
I can't believe no one else has a view on this.

Maybe you do? Let's hear it then.

Rudi ™
zzenzero
02-06-2005
Interesting post and observations.
Give people time to reply.
We're having our dinners at the moment.
Doc Shmok
02-06-2005
Nah I think Mary is just bonkers ... with some traits like my 3/4 irish gf.. everybody is fake etc.. My gf even sees it herself .. If you say something negative about a person that means you don't talk to them.. anymore ... lol
without_reason
02-06-2005
One thing I think is really interesting about this BB is that all pretence of having a 'reality' TV experience is gone. BB *is* a game show like it or not. This crew have gone in knowing that its not about being nicey nicey and making friends for life - they do want the money (and the career though goodness knows why). It was really telling how easy they found nomination - with several of them that would happily have nominated more people if they could have.

If BB runs and runs (and it might) it will be a more like BB6 than BB1 one in the future with increasingly savvy participants.

And in some ways this is a good thing and will make for good (but different) viewing
quizbuff2000
02-06-2005
Originally Posted by rudi:
“I am very pleased to see, at last, a group of HM's who are actually jostling for position and all seem to have tactics in mind to some degree. Now clearly they are all hoping to win or be highly placed, and none want to leae early. They know the potential rewards in terms of (dubious) fame and money that will come their way if they do well.
”

Hmm, well there is a school of thought that says that there are 2 BB winners: the official winner, and the person who plays the publicity machine the best, scooping the most dosh. They are not always one and the same.

Apart from the winner at the end, the people who do best from the tabloid feeding frenzy tend to be those who go early on, when media interest is still very high. Leaving around week 5 or 6 is not good news for cash/career potential, neither is being say, 3rd or 4th on final night, where you'll be upstaged by the winner.

There may be one or two savvy people in there who calculate that if they're not going to win, it's better to go early. Women HMs in particular do better out of the media than men, assuming they're willing to go down the path of whipping their jubblies out. Michelle Bass last year almost certainly realised that if she gained sexual notoriety in the house, it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference whether or not she won. Lesley has this agenda this year, but the blokes appear to have seen through it and aren't playing.
quizbuff2000
02-06-2005
Originally Posted by rudi:
“Sam, Science, Makosi, Derek, and Craig all seem to have the view that this is an intellectual battle of the brains and willpower. They believe that they have the ability to manipulate the other HM's so that they can survive longer, and that when faced with a public vote can impress the cameras enough to progress further too. I call this bunch "The Players" and commend them for it.
”

ROTFLMAO.

Not exactly Professor Moriarty versus Brother Cadfael from what I can see.

That may be their perceptions of themselves, but frankly the only thing that would make these no-marks players, would be a set of dominos.
quizbuff2000
02-06-2005
Originally Posted by rudi:
“I
Kemal and Mary are the two jokers in the pack, who I believe know that they have little chance of winning, but are using the BB stage to launch their personalities, such as they are, upon the GB public. They are banking on the opther serious HM's not viewing them as a threat and allowing them to remain, at least into the 5th week.
”

Au Contraire. I suspect Kemal knows he has a very good chance of winning this year. He's vivid, camp as Christmas and level-headed. Didn't do Brian Dowling any harm.
Eagle9a
02-06-2005
Originally Posted by quizbuff2000:
“Au Contraire. I suspect Kemal knows he has a very good chance of winning this year. He's vivid, camp as Christmas and level-headed. Didn't do Brian Dowling any harm.”

Different house completely, they were a nice unassuming (in the main) bunch - this lot are all loose cannons waiting to fire off at anyone/anything that will bring attention
rudi
02-06-2005
Originally Posted by quizbuff2000:
“Au Contraire. I suspect Kemal knows he has a very good chance of winning this year. He's vivid, camp as Christmas and level-headed. Didn't do Brian Dowling any harm.”

If Kemal has a strategy, it's for his issues to become the focal point of the group and the public as he works his way through them. Other than that he's a lowbrow Marco.

Rudi ™
Polka Dot Demon
02-06-2005
I'd probably put Sam into the 'one of the lads' group but pretty much agree with the rest of the OP.

What gets me though is that Makosi had the option to get rid of some strong competition handed to her on a plate last night when she got to choose who was nominated, but instead of choosing say Max and Anthony she chooses eviction fodder Mary and Craig?
chocolatekisses
02-06-2005
Hmmm tictacs.

I'd have thought that the majority of them had some idea of how they would 'play' when they entered the house. It's naive of them to think that they can get away with saying that they're only on BB for the experience. They ALL will have some agenda.

It's interesting to watch Sam, Vanessa and Craig struggle in the house. I wonder if that's because they can't play out their tactics and have no back up plan. Sam clearly thought she could go into that house and be the centre of attention, she wasn't prepared for the large ego's in that house. Same to some extent with Vanessa and Craig.

Although the others 'seem' to be louder and more outspoken - in my opinion they are being more 'themselves' than the likes of Sam, Van and Craig.

Ck
rudi
02-06-2005
Originally Posted by chocolatekisses:
“Hmmm tictacs.

I'd have thought that the majority of them had some idea of how they would 'play' when they entered the house. It's naive of them to think that they can get away with saying that they're only on BB for the experience. They ALL will have some agenda.

It's interesting to watch Sam, Vanessa and Craig struggle in the house. I wonder if that's because they can't play out their tactics and have no back up plan. Sam clearly thought she could go into that house and be the centre of attention, she wasn't prepared for the large ego's in that house. Same to some extent with Vanessa and Craig.

Although the others 'seem' to be louder and more outspoken - in my opinion they are being more 'themselves' than the likes of Sam, Van and Craig.

Ck”

I agree that Sam seems a bit stumped that she isn't gettin much attention, no matter how many clothes she takes off. I actually think she is sexier fully clothed. She doesn't seem to have a back-up plan, and is relying on being popular. Her big problem is that those who know, have spotted her obvious fakery, and are wary of her. To succeed she needs everyone to like and trust her. That hasn't, and won't, happen.

Come to think of it, has anyone earned any "trustworthy" brownie points? Thinking back to other BB's you'll see that this is the first with not a single trustworthy character.

Rudi ™
lulu g
02-06-2005
I think Kemal believes in every fibre of his body that he will win (because he's 'fabolous, darling'). Sadly, at the moment it looks as if he may well be right. I am hoping against hope that next week's eviction nominees will be Makosi and Kemal. That gruesome twosome have got to be split up.
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