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Old 03-06-2005, 01:08
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Just felt I had to say it, innit, pie 'n' mash 'n' liquor, Bow Bells.

Oh, duuh, sorry, that's EAST London, not north.
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Old 03-06-2005, 01:09
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Norf London you muppet!
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Old 03-06-2005, 01:10
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I'd like to put him on a hook, Texas Chainsaw Massacre style
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Old 03-06-2005, 01:10
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Can't remember now, but didn't Maxwell say he was from Islington, sorry, "Iz-lin-'un"? Or perhaps I'm getting mixed up. I dunno!
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Old 03-06-2005, 01:17
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Personally I'd rather hear Dr Hook!
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Old 03-06-2005, 01:24
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Oh goody...seems Maxwell is promoting pluralism, multiculturalism and locational-diversity all wrapped up in one wee person...

isn't that so positive...maybe now i can really break out and say a few things them foreigners from Perth say...i haven't felt empowered enough to adopt their dialect before now...afterall, jings (oops a bit of Dundee slipped in there ) they live 17miles away...

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Old 03-06-2005, 07:45
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Maxwell said yesterday that hismother was from USA, and that he also had and American passport!!!

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Old 03-06-2005, 08:40
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he is probably lying just to appear slightly interesting. maybe the constant shouting over other people is not getting him enough attention.
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Old 03-06-2005, 08:42
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i wish one of those hooks they used to have at the theatre would come onto the house and drag him off!
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Old 03-06-2005, 11:05
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Originally Posted by mitacond
Maxwell said yesterday that hismother was from USA, and that he also had and American passport!!!

People of his class (and I don't mean that snobbily either) tend to think America as the great big paradise, and having a passport there just means that he thinks he's fantastic - which he's not, of course.
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Old 03-06-2005, 11:15
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Originally Posted by stenoboy
People of his class (and I don't mean that snobbily either) tend to think America as the great big paradise, and having a passport there just means that he thinks he's fantastic - which he's not, of course.
Define "class"...are you going with Marx or Weber or basing your 'non-snobbish' opinion on some other model of social analysis?
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Old 03-06-2005, 11:32
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Originally Posted by stenoboy
People of his class (and I don't mean that snobbily either) tend to think America as the great big paradise, and having a passport there just means that he thinks he's fantastic - which he's not, of course.
Or of course it could be something quite simple like his mother IS American as he said which would entitle him to an American passport. Personally I've no idea which is true but as he went on to talk of relatives over there he wanted to visit I think it probably is.
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Old 03-06-2005, 11:34
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Neither Marx nor Weber, but rather the social group to which Max would belong - probably upper working class, for want of a better description. Anecdotally speaking, people from that group, in my experience, tend to look on America as the promised land.

Perhaps I expressed myself inelegantly, but this was NOT a snobbish opinion of his class, being from that same social group myself and hence my anecdotal knowledge of it.
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Old 03-06-2005, 11:47
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Originally Posted by stenoboy
Neither Marx nor Weber, but rather the social group to which Max would belong - probably upper working class, for want of a better description. Anecdotally speaking, people from that group, in my experience, tend to look on America as the promised land.

Perhaps I expressed myself inelegantly, but this was NOT a snobbish opinion of his class, being from that same social group myself and hence my anecdotal knowledge of it.
Now i can respect a little more the judgements you appear to be making and the reasons why. Nonetheless, I disagree with your assessment and think that, in general, notions, ideas, identification, self-identification, etc of class is far more complex and increasingly more fluid. Elderflower's simple conclusion makes far more sense within the context and circumstance.

You have, to a degree, some validity on the socio-political-idealogical aspirational views of certain classificational groupings...your anecdotal could prove 'typical' for many within the grouping you cite, the evidence does exist...however, i doubt it applies (exclusively) on this occassion.
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Old 03-06-2005, 11:50
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I cringe when he says "off thee 'uck"

Sounds like Craaaaaaig David from Bo'Selecta
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Old 03-06-2005, 12:28
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Old 03-06-2005, 12:31
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I do know someone who actually went to secondary school with Maxwell and does (or did) see him out socially on a night out but they were never really friends particularly.

Apparently he's a posh bloke who tries to talk cockney and act all ladish. I guess this is an approach that a lot of blokes take to fit in with a group of mates and not feel like a social outcast.

Amazing that someone would change their whole persona to fit in, that now it has become a part of them that they no longer act it as they actually believe they are a cockney geezer.
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