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Maisie74
03-06-2005
She's a complete bitch, no social skills, no empathy towards other housemates, get her out.

Has to go down in history as one of the most loathesome housemates ever.
Neck_Romancer
03-06-2005
Originally Posted by Mr Blonde:
“She is the biggest fake since nadia was crowned champion...the sooner shes gone the sooner the housemates can enjoy themselves...lets strike her down and vote her out...”

totally agree, she a complete freak. Mouthing off every word about people you hate isn't exactly a great thing really. sooner she's gone the better.
JTW
03-06-2005
Originally Posted by turnip:
“i wonder if she will be booed ? (if she goes)

she is doing what ahmed did to marco”

I think there's a big difference from Marko to Saskia. Saskia held her own and stood up for herself against Mary. There's no love lost between the two of them and they both nominated each other. Who knows, Mary and Saskia could well sort out their differences as the show progresses, I don't think it's finished yet on that score. Mary clearly hasn't given Saskia a chance to express herself and why she was so angry with her. But on the otherhand, Mary still feels Saskia is fake. I guess we will find out the real fakes on the show as it goes on.
turnip
03-06-2005
Originally Posted by MyMelody:
“On a lighternote, Mary is working a Miss Haversham look today. She looks like she should be in a museum, covered in cobwebs.”

underneath all that theatrical second-hand wardrobe she is quite an attractive lady (face and body). its a pity she is dressed as 'being herself'
Neck_Romancer
03-06-2005
Originally Posted by MyMelody:
“I don't think it is gutsy to insult people to their faces.
Also, when she and Saskia had their spat, Saskia asked for the two of them to chat alone but Mary insisted on an audience. I think that says a lot about Mary.
She's just an attention-seeker in my opinion.”


Totally agree. This let love mary becuase shes a bit different crap gets right up my nose. especially when she's just a big fake act. Abducted by aliens indeed
Kewpee
03-06-2005
Mary is a one trick pony. She's done her trick, time to go now. The HM's and the public are no longer shocked by what she says or does. If she stays she'll just become even sadder.

Mary played her hand too early IMO. She didn't simmer gently and take on each HM over a few weeks, she went for them all in the first three day. Game over Mary.
MyMelody
03-06-2005
Originally Posted by Maisie74:
“She's a complete bitch, no social skills, no empathy towards other housemates, get her out.

Has to go down in history as one of the most loathesome housemates ever.”

Agreed... also, she's not very psychic, you think she'd have sussed that the nominations weren't real. Plus she likes Lesley, how is that possible? Mary ranks 'intelligence' so highly, Lesley can't even tell the difference between dress sizes 12 and 18.

I hate all this 'being myself' poppycock (wow, what a great word, even if I do say so myself).

As Liam Gallagher once said, 'I need to be myself, I can be no one else.' Also rubbish, but the point I'm trying to make is you just ARE yourself. It's not an achievement. It's a fact of life. Deal with it.
Alrightmate
03-06-2005
Originally Posted by JTW:
“Like her or hate her, this is one feisty, fearless woman. She has approached everyone in the house and told them what she thinks of them

You may think she’s a nutter, a screwball, a psycho or whatever, but she doesn’t mince her words when it comes to her ‘emotions’ and telling others that they are acting to the cameras or being fake

I also think Makosi sees her as a threat and wants her out ASAP”

I agree with you.

She may be too intense and paranoid, and she maybe gets things wrong.
But I can't remember a housemate being so direct and unflinching.
She says what she feels, what she doesn't like about someone, what she does like about someone.

I think her social skills leave a lot to be desired, and she maybe doesn't need to be so judgemental in certain situations.

But she is a rarity in BB housemates.

I think she's a top draw housemate.
Straker
03-06-2005
Originally Posted by turnip:
“i wonder if she will be booed ?”


So loud that the aliens on Mars who abducted & probed her will be able to hear it.

If what she said about having many layers like an onion were true I’d say keep her in for the laugh but she’s shot her load in week one and having her remain there as the hate figure only prevents the real focus from being directed toward Makosi.

Elvira out I say.
ForumDiva
03-06-2005
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“But I can't remember a housemate being so direct and unflinching.
She says what she feels, what she doesn't like about someone, what she does like about someone.”

What a larf!
She retracts and changes her opinions completely when challenged.
DieDieMyDarling
03-06-2005
Originally Posted by JTW:
“Like her or hate her, this is one feisty, fearless woman. She has approached everyone in the house and told them what she thinks of them

You may think she’s a nutter, a screwball, a psycho or whatever, but she doesn’t mince her words when it comes to her ‘emotions’ and telling others that they are acting to the cameras or being fake

I also think Makosi sees her as a threat and wants her out ASAP”

Yeah, she has a lot of guts, when surrounded by people she thinks will back her up.
She was moaning because Saskia was being aggressive toward her (justifiably so) on the night of their argument, then she let Makosi and Kemal come join her, and as soon as they did, Mary started talking through gritted teeth, thinking that because it was now 3 on 1, she'd have the advantage.

She did the same with Anthony, picked on him because a few of them had been sitting in the bedroom complaining about all the fake people, and knowing they were still there to back her up, but as soon as Anthony stood up for himself and noone backed her up, she folded like a cheap deck of cards, even plain lying about it, saying she'd not called him fake at all.
andy1973
03-06-2005
Originally Posted by JTW:
“Like her or hate her, this is one feisty, fearless woman. She has approached everyone in the house and told them what she thinks of them

You may think she’s a nutter, a screwball, a psycho or whatever, but she doesn’t mince her words when it comes to her ‘emotions’ and telling others that they are acting to the cameras or being fake

I also think Makosi sees her as a threat and wants her out ASAP”

I think you have strong poinst there.
alibat
03-06-2005
Mary's approach of telling the housemates exactly what she thinks of them, is nothing more than a form of bulllying. Taking on those she clearly feels cannot stand up to her intellect, while expecting others to back her to the hill & when this did not happen turning paronoid & morose.

For someone who's supposidly in tune with the deeper side of one's self, her deep rooted predijuce towards the prettier females in the house etc, to me she is more of a Kate Bushell than a Kate Bush.
Last edited by alibat : 03-06-2005 at 17:24
Rubber Nun
03-06-2005
I don't think it's particularly fearless to dish it out but not take it.
turnip
03-06-2005
lesley has guts
snowprincess
03-06-2005
I think Mary is playing the viewers to be honest - she has already said that she wants out, and knows that in the past the mouthiest housemates are normally the first to go.... She's trying to get us to vote her out so she doesnt have the shame of walking herself !!

I think it would be great to keep her in and watch her go up like a bottle of pop!!!
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