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Where are all the Judas kiss haters now that Makosi's picking the victims?
Veri
03-06-2005
Hypocrites.

Last year when someone put a HM up for eviction when BB told her to, she was hated and vilified.

This year, when someone puts two up on BB's orders, she's celebrated.

Don't even attempt the pathetic excuse that one used a kiss while the other didn't.
fdooby
03-06-2005
The main difference is that Beki was a hideous skank, whereas Makosi is a gorgeous horn muffin Plus latecomers are always disliked.
Energy Arrow
03-06-2005
I thought that Beckie had a very raw deal last year. I think that what Makosi did was far worse, especially nominating one of her own allies instead of people she had been arguing with and who had been nasty to her all week. Totally selfish backstabber.
jasminetea
03-06-2005
hand on heart... at the end of the day... i say, whatever, mingers... you know what i mean?

(edit) I'm one of the people who thinks Becki is just as bad as Makosi. Maybe I've unknowingly got something against people with i's at the end of their names!
CLL Dodge
03-06-2005
Depends who she picks. Makosi's choices were quite popular, Becki's wasn't.
brunobrookes
03-06-2005
Quite right. I was furious with the reaction to Becki's "mission". Maybe what you've pointed out, Veri, is that it truly boils down to the physical appearance of the player. We proved it in tests.
ironeagleuk
03-06-2005
Makosi is a two faced backstabber....Beckie did nothing wrong last year
da33431
03-06-2005
There was something very unnerving about Becki, Judas Kiss or no Judas Kiss. She didn't even make a full week on BBLB she was so appalling.
giselle
03-06-2005
I still feel Makosi made a big mistake re her choices. Didn't watch BB last year so can't comment on this Becki person.
Matabaruka
03-06-2005
Originally Posted by BBDodge:
“Depends who she picks. Makosi's choices were quite popular, Becki's wasn't.”

I see your point but she still could have picked better(tactfully)
Alrightmate
03-06-2005
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Hypocrites.

Last year when someone put a HM up for eviction when BB told her to, she was hated and vilified.

This year, when someone puts two up on BB's orders, she's celebrated.

Don't even attempt the pathetic excuse that one used a kiss while the other didn't. ”

Very true Veri,... very true.

CLL Dodge
03-06-2005
Originally Posted by giselle:
“I still feel Makosi made a big mistake re her choices. Didn't watch BB last year so can't comment on this Becki person.”

Well if she picked one of your faves then it's a mistake.

If she was playing the game well then she'd have put two of the major contenders up for the vote. But she doesn't have a clue who the public really likes. Maybe she felt Mary and Craig were major players?

Then again BB only gave her a minute to decide.
Alrightmate
03-06-2005
Originally Posted by brunobrookes:
“Quite right. I was furious with the reaction to Becki's "mission". Maybe what you've pointed out, Veri, is that it truly boils down to the physical appearance of the player. We proved it in tests.”

Yes, these judas kiss tricks are justified......depending on who's involved apparently.

If the person you target happens to be a favourite at the time, then you've commited an evil act.
If the person you target is seen as unpopular at the time,...then it's justified.
brunobrookes
03-06-2005
It makes you think about why Sam is strangely popular in this game. If you're fit, you can get away with anything. See also gnome-face Anthony.
Informer
03-06-2005
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Yes, these judas kiss tricks are justified......depending on who's involved apparently.

If the person you target happens to be a favourite at the time, then you've commited an evil act.
If the person you target is seen as unpopular at the time,...then it's justified.”

If I remember rightly Becki went in there with the so-called purpose of splitting up the 'JC's' but forgot all about it once she was in and stabbed Michelle in the back....nasty bird
thenetworkbabe
03-06-2005
Same problem with both interventions - it means that the person who wins at the end wins because some one individual decided who went some week. The winner should be/was the one the HM like enough to keep in with the public deciding who goes and who wins - in this case the whole game is distorted by one decision by Makosi. If she had picked Kemal and Mary one of the two likeliest winners according to the betting would have been certain to go tonight....there is no point in voting at all if the potential winner is kicked out artificially early and the choice in the final 4 is actually determined by one HM any old week..
Mrs Harman
03-06-2005
The trouble with the Judas Kiss was that EVERYONE expected her to kiss Jason and didn't see what Michelle had done to deserve it.

Plus Becki was strange and skanky
beanbean
03-06-2005
with the judas kiss becki had actually watched the footage and knew who was popular and who wasnt and she knew abput stu and michelle etc..
with makosi she has no clue who is popular and who isnt, i honestly think she just picked the 2 people that came into her head first.
Anyway Becki was dull makosi is entertaining.
Rain
03-06-2005
I hated the kiss!!!! But I didn't mind Bekki! XD

She was one cow, but it was great TV......

Makosi is just a nasty snake that should follow Mary out!
thms
03-06-2005
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Hypocrites.

Last year when someone put a HM up for eviction when BB told her to, she was hated and vilified.

This year, when someone puts two up on BB's orders, she's celebrated.

Don't even attempt the pathetic excuse that one used a kiss while the other didn't. ”

blame big brother..i'd rather she chose two other people
saskia and maxwell but she chose mary and craig...
she spent ages giving her reasons for picking mary..
and in the 'diary room uncut' she said craig was thick

can't wait for craig to leave
Veri
03-06-2005
The various attempts to reationalise the hypocrisy away don't work. That Becki did what BB told her to, rather than being a "hero" by refusing, was supposedly one of the reasons for disliking Becki. So it should be a similar reason for disliking Makosi.

Originally Posted by beanbean:
“with the judas kiss becki had actually watched the footage and knew who was popular and who wasnt and she knew abput stu and michelle etc.. with makosi she has no clue who is popular and who isnt, i honestly think she just picked the 2 people that came into her head first.
Anyway Becki was dull makosi is entertaining.”

My point wasn't about who was selected; it was about putting people up for eviction because BB tells you to. Last year, BB telling you to was supposedly not a good enough reason for doing it. Instead, it counted very strongly against the person who did it. This year, that is mysteriously not a factor.

Besides, Becki was certainly not dull, thouhg of course you may not like her particular ways of having fun. I thought it was quite amusing to see the Jungle Cats being spanked, just for example.
lulu g
03-06-2005
I didn't like Becki at all but I didn't blame her for the Judas kiss. She was put in an impossible situation by BB. Makosi is, to me, at least as unlikable as Becki, but at least Becki was not treated like the star of the show as Makosi is.
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