At least the BB website is starting to show these people for what they are...

I wonder if the Ch4 programme will start to do the same?!

And this forum is starting to show people for what they are, nasty and vindictive. I can't believe some of the vile comments I have read about Lesley. It was Sam's turn last week then 1 incident and the venom is spewed on Lesley, whose turn will it be next week if Lesley goes? Back to Sam again?

Probably. After all once one annoying person goes you just move onto another.
At the moment Lesley and Craig are the worst so they'll be getting it in the neck.

I'm somewhat gobsmacked that there are still some people who are supporting Lesley. Whether they find her entertaining or not (what standards do these people have, do they condone bullying?) nobody has the right to treat another person the way she, Craig and Vanessa have treated Sam whether through jealousy or pure vindictiveness.

Lesley said last night, she knows she will be alright when she's evicted this is how deluded she is and considers her behaviour, not only acceptable, but something that will be applauded by the GBP Any right minded person will see how evil she is.

But it isn't about just 1 incident. Lesley has been going for Sam pretty much constantly for the last few days. In her nomination she said that she has tried to get on with Sam. I don't think there has been much evidence of that. Some of what has been shown looks like straight forward playground bullying. Last week Saskia was coming in for the same treatment but after she faced up to Mary lesley and Co have settled for just bitching behind her back.

Which is why she needs to be made an example of in that "bullying does not reward". If she is not evicted she will think her behaviour acceptable and probably pick on another victim.

I agree with this and I think the bullying victim is the person she is jealous of

No I don't condone bullying, I just see things for what they are. The mass hysteria on this board beggars belief. Lesley and Sam don't get on, Sam has said some equally bad things to and about Lesley and 1 incident has been blown out of all proportion.
I think the vile messages on this board directed at Lesley are so hypocritical. As you say no one has the right to treat another person like that, the real bitching and bullying is going on on this board, not in the house.
I don't applaud any bad behavior and will not jump on the hating Lesley bandwagon, because that would make me as bad as the rest of the sheep who think they are justified in dishing out the cruelest of insults because they think Lesley has behaved in a bad way.

I'm sorry, but I cannot agree with you. To say bullying is going on on this board is ridiculous. I do not have to follow the sheep, Lesley showed her true colours the moment Saskia stepped into the house, with the comment about fake breasts. Lesley is an archetypal bully, together with her cohorts, she deems it is acceptable behaviour to belittle and bully another person. I am not a Sam fan, but nobody deserves to be treated as she has. Have you not considered Sam is retaliating with her "bitchy" remarks (of which, incidentally I've seen very few), as Sam has said in the diary room, if she defends herself she is accused of being a bitch. There is a huge anti-bullying campaign at the moment, if Lesley stays in on Friday it gives the green light to bullies everywhere

What started as dislike has now turned into a reason to live. Lesley's a deluded mess.

Lesley thinks Sam's mental, but I really think Lesley has some really big issues. (or is that what she's going to be selling when she gets evicted? )

Sam's singing wasn't that bad, and Lesley's was worse by far. She's 19, it's about time she grew the **** up.

And do you think that the way to deal bullies is by calling them fat ugly slappers and launching a tirade of abuse and venom? I think that makes the person saying it as bad as the bully.

I agree that those who respond to Lesley by insulting her are wrong to do that (even if it appears to be the only thing she would understand). However, her behaviour towards Sam is sickening and vile. Craig and Vanessa are almost as culpable in stoking he flames and adding their own comments to get the approval of their self-appointed leader. She takes pleasure in making someone else upset, and that cannot be condoned in any situation or walk of life, let alone a situation where the people in this programme are (inexplicably) becoming celebrities and thus role models for young people.

I don't hold with insulting her, but she should be made aware that her actions can have serious repercussions, but I fear that she wouldn't understand unless she was on the receiving end of similar treatment.

What gets me as well is that Team idiot seem to think that Sam was singing seriously. They arent even clever enough to get the irony that she was actually taking the P... out of herself and watching this live it was actually very funny. Sam had Maxwell Saskia and Anthony in stitches, it was the funniest moment Sam has had all week.

And from what I see on here are Fm's doing exactly the same, taking pleasure in making someone else upset and that is being condoned on this forum. Of course Lesley needs to be told the error of her ways, and she will, but disgusting insults are not the way to do it, that will just make Lesley think that people are even worse than she is. If you fight bullying with bullying you are the ones condoning it!!!

I didn't watch this, but I am pleased that Saskia has taken her under her wing, shows she has feelings and doesn't like bullies, as she stated in her nominations. I hope Sam lasts another week, she deserves it more than Lesley.

Hello, and welcome to the real world. Did you have a long journey to get here?

"Evil" is raping and killing children. Lesley isn't evil, she's just a bit unpleasant.

This forum isn't the real world FFS

Sam was reluctant to sing but did eventually because Saskia, Max and Anthony were begging her to. I'm not sure but I think Max said something on the lines of "go on, it'll make my night."
Sam new the rest of them would be taking the piss out of her but didn't seem to care. It was a genuine fun moment. It's a shame she doesn't talk more or isn't more confident when she does talk.

Very well put Dr Steve.

FFS, How old is Lesley? 'she has a spotty bum' and 'she smells' Shine a light I thought 5 year olds thought that was immature?

And some people think calling Lesley a lard a**e is childish.

What did you imagine forum life was about?

You seem to be forgetting that the HM's are in a interactive game show, willingly involved knowing full well that this is how the public react to the way they play the game. They are in it for greed and a need to be famous.

If you're placing the blame anywhere, it should be at the feet of the programme makers who instigate and inflame these situations in order to get public sympathy/outrage.

Perhaps if you'd been around during previous BB's you would be more accepting of the format. Lesley is not being singled out, all HM's are open for some very harsh criticism and in my opinion it isn't nearly as bad as Nadia, Cameron, Alex, Victor, Emma, Marco and lots of others have had to endure, and for far less reason.

This is a forum where forum members debate and vent their feeling on housemates. We are not in the BB house throwing insults directly at anyone or in direct contact bullying.

Lesley has been on BB forums we are led to believe and knows what to expect. So although I don't agree with some of the comments about Lesley, if kept in check and it helps forum members vent their feelings against her, I see no harm in it. After all forum members are not in the BB house and can't tell the contestants directly that what they are doing ammounts to bullying.

I have read far worse in newspapers or spouted on other programes. So why not go the whole hog and declare half the population bullies, why stop at this forum

My son is getting bullied at school at the moment. I don't think bullies are 'a bit unpleasant' They *are* evil. Getting pleasure from making someone elses life a misery *is* evil.

Angie