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Have you seen this?....more bitching
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SJ_Mental
08-06-2005
Yes i have to agree they have an evil intent which to you may seem a bit unpleasant but to the victim locked in the house with them 24hrs a day O-M-G.

If i were in there with these people you would be seeing the first big brother murder, I cant stand any of them "Team Britney" nah more like craig and lesley and their pet dog vannessa (only the pet dog because she follows them around wagging her tail and doing what they want to be popular)
Looo
08-06-2005
I think they should use the crazy frog as their wake up alarm
ForumDiva
08-06-2005
Originally Posted by Susann:
“Lesley has been on BB forums we are led to believe and knows what to expect. So although I don't agree with some of the comments about Lesley, if kept in check and it helps forum members vent their feelings against her, I see no harm in it.”

Mrs Miggins is defending a girl who last night said to Vanessa: 'If we were on the outside, I'd just give her (Sam) a punch and I'd feel a whole lot better.'

It's a sad refection of Lesley's upbringing that she finds this behaviour not only acceptible but amusing. Comparing her actions to that of FM's beggars belief.
Susann
08-06-2005
Originally Posted by Foureyes:
“"Evil" is raping and killing children. Lesley isn't evil, she's just a bit unpleasant.”

Originally Posted by AngieP:
“My son is getting bullied at school at the moment. I don't think bullies are 'a bit unpleasant' They *are* evil. Getting pleasure from making someone elses life a misery *is* evil.

Angie”


I agree with you Angie, of course it's evil, especially when some children find no way out of it and are so traumitised it can lead to suicides, such a waste of young lifes

I hope you sort the bullying of your son out. One of my sons was bullied at school, but I found the school very uncooperative. I went to the headmaster of the school about it at the time and he was just as bad as the bullies, his attitude stunk and he even leaned over his desk in almost a direct intimidating confrontational act towards me. It didn't work, he chose the wrong person to try and intimidate. I couldn't believe his attitude to be honest.

I found direct words with the parents the next and only step. Bullying really does have to be stamped out.

Oops gone off topic Sorry Beth Ummm Get Lesley The Bully Out Please....
AxeVictim
08-06-2005
Lesley said last night on the hi-lights show if she was outside the house she would have punched Sam as it would make her feel better inside.This shows you the chav mentality and the bully in her.
AngieP
08-06-2005
Originally Posted by Susann:
“I agree with you Angie, of course it's evil, especially when some children find no way out of it and are so traumitised it can lead to suicides, such a waste of young lifes

I hope you sort the bullying of your son out. One of my sons was bullied at school, but I found the school very uncooperative. I went to the headmaster of the school about it at the time and he was just as bad as the bullies, his attitude stunk and he even leaned over his desk in almost a direct intimidating confrontational act towards me. It didn't work, he chose the wrong person to try and intimidate. I couldn't believe his attitude to be honest.

I found direct words with the parents the next and only step. Bullying really does have to be stamped out.

Oops gone off topic Sorry Beth Ummm Get Lesley The Bully Out Please....”

Thanks for that Susan
We have an appointment to see my sons teacher tomorrow and we are also seeing the teacher of the bullies. So hopefully it will get sorted.

Back on topic,

So don't validate bullies and let her stay in the house. She will think the public agree with her actions and 'good entertainment' is the worst reason I can think of to keep her in there.

Angie
Elderflower
08-06-2005
Originally Posted by bystander:
“Sam was reluctant to sing but did eventually because Saskia, Max and Anthony were begging her to. I'm not sure but I think Max said something on the lines of "go on, it'll make my night."
Sam new the rest of them would be taking the piss out of her but didn't seem to care. It was a genuine fun moment. It's a shame she doesn't talk more or isn't more confident when she does talk.”

Sam was hardly belting this out in the same way Lesley was 'auditioning' during Mary's party. Like you say, she was talked into it and from what I saw it was a fun moment, especially when she struggled to finish the song as she was laughing so much. It is probably one of the few occasions where I've seen a group of them laughing along with her instead of at her, it made a nice change.
Vengie
08-06-2005
The only reason that Lesley was angry at Sam's singing was because she still wanted Sam to be in tears. The people that Sam was with, goaded her to sing to lighten her mood after such appalling behaviour from 'Team Brittany'

Lesley is pure evil and I so want her out along with Craig, I just wish there was a double eviction this week(presuming that it would be Lesley and Craig that go). Lesley is by far one of the nastiest, cruelest HM's I have seen and listened too. To say such things like 'I'm going to make her life hell' is definitely not playing, that statement comes from someone who likes to make people suffer.
Energy Arrow
08-06-2005
I bet they won't show this.
slappers r us
08-06-2005
they really are charming people

someone should put their heads down the bog

i wonder if its going to be on the highlights
dome
08-06-2005
Originally Posted by Energy Arrow:
“I bet they won't show this.”

It's on the website, so they are bound to show it.

Seems like C4 have the knives out for dear Lesley.
slappers r us
08-06-2005
Originally Posted by dome:
“It's on the website, so they are bound to show it.

Seems like C4 have the knives out for dear Lesley.”

it was on the website about the bitching in the loft in the first week but that wasnt shown

it was on dairy room uncut where lesley said she was going to make sams life hell but it wasnt on the C4 show

they are very selective about what they show with lesley
tubmonsterbirds
08-06-2005
I agree with most of whats being said here. I did feel for sam when she was crying in the D.R I know it was only a make up bag but think it was a culmination of the things that had been said (or not said). I'm not a sam fan but find it very hard to see what she has done sooo wrong apart from wear a bikini all the time and keep quiet.
The 'team' need to be broken up..i'm all for a bit of tension but when it comes to bullying not! Think Craig or Lesley should go my vote will go for craig as he just makes me want to vomit on the TV everytime i see him...a bit toooo smug.
dizzychick
08-06-2005
Last night Lesley was doing a catwalk, and she was laughing an immitating people in the house, it was harmless fun, and people were laughing, then she had to take it one step to far, and did a nasty impression of Sam, makosi and others were laughing. Sam at this time was trying very hard to make conversation with Max, Saskia, and Anthony in another room.

I am cringing watching this on telly now. I have stuck up for Lesley in the past, but Sam knows she has NO -ONE in there. Usually they all have a little sidekick, someone whom is their "mate" she has no one, how lonely and sad inside she must feel. Lesley keeps carrying on :0( I am only hoping Lesleys age is a factor in this, but saying that, my daughter whom is 7 years younger then Lesley, asked why she is so cruel!!?!!

We all know Sam had a laugh when they were joking about before, and people have said, myself included, well she did not like it when the tables were turned .e.t.c but this is way to far, every chance they get they are going for that poor girl. I think some come uppence will be Sam waving Lesley goodbye on Friday, but I also worry, I could see Lesley somehow kicking off at Sam in anger if she "Lesley" is evicted! She just comes across as one of those that nastily lash out.

I also think Craig and those have a huge part to play in this. Lesley clicked on quite early that by being the bitch, being Craigs voice, got her 2 friends at least. Craig and Vanessa.

Its all cringing tv, but I will still watch.
Shazzabella
08-06-2005
Originally Posted by dome:
“It's on the website, so they are bound to show it.

Seems like C4 have the knives out for dear Lesley.”


Good. Because this is utterly unpleasant watching and like Hogan, I've got the sound down a lot of the time. Will be really disappointed if the voting public don't kick Lesley out. This is viscious bullying and well done Lesley, you've made a lot of people feel very sorry for Sam.
jesaya
08-06-2005
Much as I dislike Lesley constant references to her size are sinking to her level - being fat is not what is awful about Lesley... it is her personality that is unpleasant.

She is top of my list for Friday.
tubmonsterbirds
08-06-2005
I couldn't have put it better myself dizzychick! agree .....
The Dreaming
08-06-2005
Nice I doubt it will be shown on the highlights though. Endemol do seem to have a bit of a thing for Lesley.

If Lesley is not voted out this week, then I will have to give up on this show, as it has clearly become something very different from the Big Brother show I used to watch and enjoy. I get no enjoyment out of watching Lesley or Craig on my tv screen. In fact I find it uncomfortable and monotonous viewing.
criticonabike
08-06-2005
i think the statement on the bb website sums it all up.

asked why she hid the make-up bag lesley said it was because she didn't like her.

there you go. it wasn't a joke to be shared with the victim in good humour and intentions, it was pure spite. as lesley as said it herself i think the fat les supporters can stop saying it was " just a bit of fun ".
tubmonsterbirds
08-06-2005
mmm I know what you're saying Beatrix....I have often found myself having to resort to turning over and watching celebrity love island when Lesley and Craig get in full flow...
dome
08-06-2005
I think they will show the real Lesley and get her out quickly. Otherwise they'll be in the same situation as BB3 where they had to keep Jade in and gave her private coaching in the DR ready for her eventual exit.
GreenPlasticMan
08-06-2005
I've never liked Lesley, right from her reactions to other housemate's entrances to the house.
Jaxter666
08-06-2005
Lesley is convinced she is a gorgeous babe, despite all evidence to the contary - you can't buy delusional confidence like that! Has she looked in the mirror? She has a huge beer gut and has breasts like a a plastic joke bottom from Blackpool Bet all you guys are drooling..
laticsyarddog
08-06-2005
What get's me is the continuous iinsinuation from them, that Sams a bitch and is always saying nasty things about them.

Has anyboady at any time actually heard Sam say anything nasty about them at all? - I don't mean third party hear say or response to Lesleys bantering either.

As evidence for the defence, last night Max asked Sam what she thought about those three, her answer to this open invitation to slag them off was:

"Well I don't like Craig and Lesley, but Vanessa' can be fun at times".

Which is what I though an extraordinary thing to say about them in the current situation and also the second time I've heard her say nice things about Vanessa.

Unless somebody can post something that I've missed, the facts to me are that she actually isn't and hasn't bitched about them at all, but those three have creating a imaginary impression of her in their minds that she is, in order to justify their actions.
cath99
08-06-2005
Originally Posted by laticsyarddog:
“Has anyboady at any time actually heard Sam say anything nasty about them at all? - I don't mean third party hear say or response to Lesleys bantering either.
”

I haven't heard her bitch about them at all and I really can't imagine who she would bitch about them to!! Max, Ant and Saskia are the only people she seems to feel comfortable with and they don't get involved in any bitching.

I think its a case of the bitches stirring each other up to such a point that they start to believe their own lies. Vanessa nominated Sam because she "heard from Lesley" that Sam had said something nasty about her. Lesley said she "was told" that Sam made a horrible comment about her. Kemal and Makosi said they were "told" that Sam had been bitching about them. Nobody has actually come out and said "I heard Sam say.....".

Its pathetic.
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