DS Forums

 
 

Sam's plan B...


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-06-2005, 16:12
Mrs Miggins
Banned User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,517

Plan A, to shag her way through all the males in the house has failed miserably and IMO we now see plan B in action.

I have been wondering how she managed to get in the house at all considering she hardly ever speaks, she must have been different going through the interview process otherwise she wouldn't have made it past stage 1 but I am starting to think that a lot of this being quiet is put on. She hasn't even attempted to mix with anyone apart from Max, but that was when plan A was in action.

On the rare occasion she opens her mouth it results in winding someone up and causing them to dislike her, she has made snide comments to almost everyone causing them to nominate her.

Call me cynical but I think she wants to play the victim. Max stuck up for her earlier against Lesley and she got in a strop about it and had a go at Max. I know Lesley has gone too far but Sam has been goading her.

Now we have her mum in the papers talking about how she 'feared Sam would kill herself' for being picked on in school. Why bring that up now other than to drum up sympathy?

All of this has worked a treat, in a short space of time Sam has gone from being disliked by the public to being poor little bullied girl that everyone feels sorry for.

Max said earlier to Sam that she doesn't do herself any favors, he can see that she is winding people up just enough for them to retaliate. She then revels in playing the victim which she knows will make the public feel sympathy for her.

I hope Lesley goes this week and then I'm sure we will see Sam bring out the bully in someone else. I think she is playing a game as much as the rest of them.
Mrs Miggins is offline   Reply With Quote
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 08-06-2005, 16:14
DryHumper
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 5,148
Lesley fans are getting a bit desparate
DryHumper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:15
Eagle9a
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Scarborough
Posts: 18,770
Well its either that or she is just dim,boring and basically unlikeable. Hmm I'll go for the alternative.
Eagle9a is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:17
F'kinRight
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Prison
Posts: 2,710
I don't think people here are saying they want Sam to win, so opinions haven't changed in that sense. All I want is for Lesley to be voted out before Sam - simple justice.
F'kinRight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:17
Mrs Miggins
Banned User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,517
Originally Posted by DryHumper
Lesley fans are getting a bit desparate
I can't stand Lesley either, I just think there is more to Sam than meets the eye.
Mrs Miggins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:18
Trashcan
Banned User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 2,130
Originally Posted by DryHumper
Lesley fans are getting a bit desparate
Just because someone isn't a fan of Sams does not make them a fan of Lesleys.. thats schoolyard stuff with respect.
Trashcan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:19
DryHumper
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 5,148
Sam won't win, todays events have boosted Max (BB1-Craig stylee), not Sam
DryHumper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:20
Cha'Mone Mo Fo
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Dagenham
Posts: 756
Originally Posted by DryHumper
Lesley fans are getting a bit desparate
Its desperate times for us few Lesley fans!
I agree, and have said so in another thread, it looks like Sam is playing the victim and it is working. Hopefully people will see it, but I doubt it. The claws have been into Lesley from the start they wont let go now.
But I hope she stays- I'm having good fun defending her!
Cha'Mone Mo Fo is offline Follow this poster on Twitter   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:20
DryHumper
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 5,148
Originally Posted by Trashcan
Just because someone isn't a fan of Sams does not make them a fan of Lesleys.. thats schoolyard stuff with respect.
No shes partly excusing Lesleys behaviour in the process I think you'll find, "She wound her up". It's subte and clever support for Lesley to stay over Sam
DryHumper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:20
DillholeMcGinty
Banned User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Oxford
Posts: 6,062
Overly convoluted and incorrect Mrs Miggins

There is another group of Lesleh supporters that have appeared recently housewife's that are rather similar in shape to Lesley, and the sight of Sam in a bikini produces the same kind of jealous rage that affects the hulk from Huddersfield

ALSO: If Sam is playing the victim, why did sh have a row with Max after he was defending her, it makes no sense.
DillholeMcGinty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:23
Mrs Miggins
Banned User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,517
Originally Posted by DryHumper
Sam won't win, todays events have boosted Max (BB1-Craig stylee), not Sam
How do you know, public opinion changes so easily, if she carries on playing the victim people will continue to take pity on her.
Mrs Miggins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:26
donsy90
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: WHATM
Posts: 33,787
Mrs Miggins, yes i do feel sorry for Sam, she has been on the end of some terrible behaviour, not only from Lesley but others too, that does not mean that i like her, im just thinking how funny it would be to see Lesley and Craig leave before her, to show that we dont accept their behaviour, they all are changing, every day. Lets just see what happens when Lesley does go this week (hopefully).
donsy90 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:29
ngchol
Banned User
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 613
Originally Posted by Mrs Miggins
How do you know, public opinion changes so easily, if she carries on playing the victim people will continue to take pity on her.
I would have thought Alastair Campbell had better things to do than post on DSBB . No token victim has ever got far in BB, and I don't think Sam will either - it would be a victory for justice if Lesleh was booted before Sam, though. However, the forums would be enormous fun if Lesleh somehow survived Friday!
ngchol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:30
Mrs Miggins
Banned User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,517
Originally Posted by DillholeMcGinty
Overly convoluted and incorrect Mrs Miggins

There is another group of Lesleh supporters that have appeared recently housewife's that are rather similar in shape to Lesley, and the sight of Sam in a bikini produces the same kind of jealous rage that affects the hulk from Huddersfield

ALSO: If Sam is playing the victim, why did sh have a row with Max after he was defending her, it makes no sense.
That old chestnut, if you don't like Sam you must be a fat old slapper who is jealous, please don't be so shallow
Sam would get annoyed at Max for defending her as it messes up her plan, she wants to be picked on so she can continue to play the victim. If she really felt she was being victimised she would be glad of the support and someone stronger telling the bully to stop.
Mrs Miggins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:33
torchomatic
Banned User
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 1,725
Dolt! Every word Mrs M said there was true. It's got nothing to do with "Lesley Fans", it's called common sense...oh I see I'll be wasting my time here...

Originally Posted by DryHumper
Lesley fans are getting a bit desparate
torchomatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:33
Mrs Miggins
Banned User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,517
Originally Posted by ngchol
I would have thought Alastair Campbell had better things to do than post on DSBB . No token victim has ever got far in BB, and I don't think Sam will either - it would be a victory for justice if Lesleh was booted before Sam, though. However, the forums would be enormous fun if Lesleh somehow survived Friday!
Maybe token victims don't get far, but for Sam it's worth a try as the nympho thing failed and this has obviously bought her a bit more time.
Mrs Miggins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:34
afcbfan
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 5,288
Originally Posted by Mrs Miggins
All of this has worked a treat, in a short space of time Sam has gone from being disliked by the public to being poor little bullied girl that everyone feels sorry for.
I don't think it's fair to say that Sam was disliked by the public. Most people were complaining that she hadn't done anything of interest, but that's not to say she was disliked.

There was no great dislike of her on the Digital spy first week 'Who do you like least'? poll either, although that's no reliable indicator of public opinion, I realise.
afcbfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:37
Rabbitweed
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 99
she must have been different going through the interview process otherwise she wouldn't have made it past stage 1
But then again, Vanessa's hardly been the bitchy, full of life girl she made herself out to be on the audition tape & neither has Craig been the nasty, vindictive hateful boy he said he would be.
Rabbitweed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:39
Mike Teevee
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: durty sarf london
Posts: 16,241
whilst I don't like the way Les-lah is behaving towards Sam, it doesn't compare to the evil bitchfest that Adele & Jade had over Sophie in BB3

the only good that came out of that was PJ saw a different side to her ("she's evil") and she got voted out the next week.

Les-lah is be very childish and possibly slightly insecure over Sam (who doesn't register on my radar except when being made fun of) and is coming across really badly

If playing the victim is Sam's supposed plan B for winning BB, she's gonna have to come up with something else. Just because I (and loads others) don't like how Les-lah is, doesn't mean we suddenly like Sam (or want her to win)
Mike Teevee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:41
Dr Steve
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Here...where else would I be?
Posts: 3,583
Many people get into the house on the pretext of being something they are not, like Jason, and some people are suppressed in the house by other big characters, instead playing the game by biding their time.

On the point of the thread, Sam is shallow and self-absorbed and may well be a habitual victim (Time will tell on the last point), but you can only provoke the bully in someone if there is a bully there to be provoked. In Lesley this bully has appeared with a vengeance...
Dr Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:44
Mrs Miggins
Banned User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,517
Originally Posted by afcbfan
I don't think it's fair to say that Sam was disliked by the public. Most people were complaining that she hadn't done anything of interest, but that's not to say she was disliked.

There was no great dislike of her on the Digital spy first week 'Who do you like least'? poll either, although that's no reliable indicator of public opinion, I realise.
I thought she was disliked not just because of her quietness but also the bikini thing and the nympho thing. Maybe not in the 1st week as everyone had high hopes of her living up to her audition tape, but as soon as they realised that wasn't going to happen she quickly became very unpopular.
Mrs Miggins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:44
CLL Dodge
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: The Green Hills of Earth
Posts: 80,438
Whilst Lesley's in the house Sam doesn't have the option of a plan B. There's nowhere she can hide. Craig & Lesley's pursuit of her is relentless, even when there are tasks to be done. Her whole BB experience has been ruined.
CLL Dodge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:49
Mrs Miggins
Banned User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,517
Originally Posted by Rabbitweed
But then again, Vanessa's hardly been the bitchy, full of life girl she made herself out to be on the audition tape & neither has Craig been the nasty, vindictive hateful boy he said he would be.
I think Craig is exactly what he said he was, but only behind peoples backs.
Mrs Miggins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:52
DillholeMcGinty
Banned User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Oxford
Posts: 6,062
Originally Posted by Mrs Miggins
That old chestnut, if you don't like Sam you must be a fat old slapper who is jealous, please don't be so shallow
Sam would get annoyed at Max for defending her as it messes up her plan, she wants to be picked on so she can continue to play the victim. If she really felt she was being victimised she would be glad of the support and someone stronger telling the bully to stop.
Sam was worried about repercusions of Maxwell sticking up for her. This is a well known problem when dealing with bullying.

If you think that this is all part of Sams plan (or your convuluted series of plan A and plan B, and theorys on what Sam must have been thinking and planning at any one time blah blah blah)

You should look at some of the video clips of Lesleies behavior, especially the ones where she plans to "make her life hell" and turns every conversation into a topic on how she hates Sam.

Makes her apologise to her for accusing her of stealing things she really did steal in the first place

The two disdinct times that she has said she would have attacked Sam physically if she wasnt in the BB house

Oh and the classic of turning a shortage of chicken nuggets into an excuse to start at on her again

..and because of what..because Sam isint very sociable?

meh...

In addition to this, most of your "evidence" of how Sam has two "plans" and has no fallen back to "plan B" (how on earth did you work out such specific details on what plans Sam had in mind I'll never know) is plucked out of team britneys nomination reasons.
DillholeMcGinty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2005, 16:54
Mrs Miggins
Banned User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,517
Originally Posted by BBDodge
Whilst Lesley's in the house Sam doesn't have the option of a plan B. There's nowhere she can hide. Craig & Lesley's pursuit of her is relentless, even when there are tasks to be done. Her whole BB experience has been ruined.
I don't see it, if it was all down to Lesley and Craig how come the rest of the HM's don't like her. I don't excuse Lesley's behavior but I do think Sam is encouraging people not to like her. I think she has bought it on herself to a certain extent.
Mrs Miggins is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply




 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:52.