Sam was in serious danger? (merged)

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pairofpants

09-06-2005

Originally Posted by jacko12:
“have you ever used this piece of equipment or seen this holder it comes in, as a first aider it would be ilegal for me to use one but have seen the holder and in the usual red box and red lettering is the warning on how to use it plus a follow up of only trained persons should use it.
as for Makosi she did actually say she personaly wouldn't have used it, but would have used bandages instead.
and yes I do know paramedics who refuse to use it as all the trainers on the first aid course where paramedics and agreed that it had to many risks and refuse to use one.”

No, i haven't seen the holder it comes in, or ever used this piece of equipment.
How do you know that this is exactly the same one as they used in BB? it may well have risks for people who have INJURED tissue, but what risks jacko12 does it have on people who are perfectly HEALTHY?
I suspect you have a case of St-Johns-Ambulance-itis.

thenetworkbabe

09-06-2005

Originally Posted by babspanky:
“I am sure that they have to do risk assessments on all of the tasks as well as any specialist advice they take.
I don't believe she was in any danger.”

That would be the same specialist advice they ignored on BB5 and got fight night as a consequence? its BB not Casualty.......

Phyllis Stein

09-06-2005

In danger of finishing a sentance without laughing inanely?

jacko12

09-06-2005

Originally Posted by pairofpants:
“No, i haven't seen the holder it comes in, or ever used this piece of equipment.
How do you know that this is exactly the same one as they used in BB? it may well have risks for people who have INJURED tissue, but what risks jacko12 does it have on people who are perfectly HEALTHY?
I suspect you have a case of St-Johns-Ambulance-itis.”

sorry but haven't got anything to do with St Johns Ambulance was trained by an organisation called HOTA can be found on www.hota.org.
no matter if a person is healthy or not would you risk over inflation which can stop the flow of blood and if you are a nurse as you have stated will know the consequences that would cause even to a perfectly fit person never mind someone who is actually injured.
and finally no matter if it is the same piece of equipment or not that I've seen any piece of equipment that is intended for use by trained persons carries this type of warning and if as you say are a trained nurse should know that!!!

pairofpants

09-06-2005

Originally Posted by jacko12:
“sorry but haven't got anything to do with St Johns Ambulance was trained by an organisation called HOTA can be found on www.hota.org.
no matter if a person is healthy or not would you risk over inflation which can stop the flow of blood and if you are a nurse as you have stated will know the consequences that would cause even to a perfectly fit person never mind someone who is actually injured.
and finally no matter if it is the same piece of equipment or not that I've seen any piece of equipment that is intended for use by trained persons carries this type of warning and if as you say should know that!!!”

Your reply is like a stream of consciousness - so much bile in it.

The splint was not blown up like a tourniquet, and believe me it would have to be blown up incredibly high (and not with breath) to stop blood flowing.

jacko12

09-06-2005

Originally Posted by pairofpants:
“Your reply is like a stream of consciousness - so much bile in it.

The splint was not blown up like a tourniquet, and believe me it would have to be blown up incredibly high (and not with breath) to stop blood flowing.”

actually I am not concerned if the splint was blown up or not it is the actual use by untrained persons that is actually bothering me and they did actually blow the splint up but sam asked for some of the air to be let out.
and actually your reply going on about St John's Ambulance brigade is actually more nasty thn what I put, if pointing out that you as a trained nurse should know what the consequences of restricting someones blood flow is being nasty then I apologise as it was not meant in that way.
and sorry but but plastic shrinks in heat and if the splint had enough volume of air inside plus with the plastic shrinking this can cause the flow of blood to be restricted.

Neilyman

10-06-2005

Originally Posted by pairofpants:
“I suspect you have a case of St-Johns-Ambulance-itis.”

It`s `St John Ambulance`, not Johns, no `S`.
Shouldn`t trained nurses know that?

andy1973

10-06-2005

erm..... k

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