Originally Posted by Mandark:
“Yeah she's right - I was only good for sex!!! ”
“Yeah she's right - I was only good for sex!!!
”
lol!
Saskia, black men and 'husband material'
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Originally Posted by Mandark:
“Well...one theory is that in the days of African slavery, slavemasters would deliberately stop black men and women forming family units, thus preventing potentially rebellious communities forming. It is believed that this anti-family behaviour has carried on with black men down the ages. Thus many black men in the West are considered as having a love 'em and leave 'em reputation.”
“Well...one theory is that in the days of African slavery, slavemasters would deliberately stop black men and women forming family units, thus preventing potentially rebellious communities forming. It is believed that this anti-family behaviour has carried on with black men down the ages. Thus many black men in the West are considered as having a love 'em and leave 'em reputation.”
I wonder would that be the answer Saskia would give.
Originally Posted by Mandark:
“Well...one theory is that in the days of African slavery, slavemasters would deliberately stop black men and women forming family units, thus preventing potentially rebellious communities forming. It is believed that this anti-family behaviour has carried on with black men down the ages. Thus many black men in the West are considered as having a love 'em and leave 'em reputation.”
“Well...one theory is that in the days of African slavery, slavemasters would deliberately stop black men and women forming family units, thus preventing potentially rebellious communities forming. It is believed that this anti-family behaviour has carried on with black men down the ages. Thus many black men in the West are considered as having a love 'em and leave 'em reputation.”
utter rubbish.
Originally Posted by DaisyDumplin:
“She said 'I don't mean to be stereotypical BUT the black guys I have been with have not been husband material'
I didn't say she said all.
Why say she is not being stereotypical?”
“She said 'I don't mean to be stereotypical BUT the black guys I have been with have not been husband material'
I didn't say she said all.
Why say she is not being stereotypical?”
If she'd left out the "stereotypical" bit I suspect you'd be even more up in arms than you seemingly are.
She's merely describing her personal experiences.
For all I know, she may be a paid-up member of the Ku-Klux Klan but I think it's a bit much to jump to conclusions on the evidence at hand.
People always get hysterical on here with any mention of race. I'm waiting for someone to use the word 'outrageous'. 
and another thing whilst I am on a rant
Believe it or not there are many in the country with that view of immigrants as in her audition video
Do you know why - Blair and Bush's constant scaremongering and war on terror exagerated and enhanced to ensure greater control and re-election.
Many can see through them but the majority do not
Believe it or not there are many in the country with that view of immigrants as in her audition video
Do you know why - Blair and Bush's constant scaremongering and war on terror exagerated and enhanced to ensure greater control and re-election.
Many can see through them but the majority do not
Originally Posted by Lullaby:
“I agree with all of what cupcake said but at the same time a racist would not bother to say she was not being stereotypical, she would have merely tarred all with the same brush
I see nothing wrong with her explaining her feeling based on her own experiences - just happens that in her case white men have treated her better - In many other peoples lives people have found the opposite to be true”
“I agree with all of what cupcake said but at the same time a racist would not bother to say she was not being stereotypical, she would have merely tarred all with the same brush
I see nothing wrong with her explaining her feeling based on her own experiences - just happens that in her case white men have treated her better - In many other peoples lives people have found the opposite to be true”
well said.. i don't take offense at what she said, it just does not suprise me. to her i am sure what she said was perfectly fine as they were her thoughts. it's irony if anything
Originally Posted by yahoodlums:
“Hey let's make it into a racist thread anyway. Just for fun”
“Hey let's make it into a racist thread anyway. Just for fun
”
Yes let's
No let's not. No one here could ever call Saskia a racist. Even Saskia herself said she wasn't a racist.
Originally Posted by Kewpee:
“That's far too rational when a witch hunt is going on.”
“That's far too rational when a witch hunt is going on.
”
they got rid of mary last week
Originally Posted by sanddancer:
“If she'd left out the "stereotypical" bit I suspect you'd be even more up in arms than you seemingly are.
She's merely describing her personal experiences.
For all I know, she may be a paid-up member of the Ku-Klux Klan but I think it's a bit much to jump to conclusions on the evidence at hand.”
“If she'd left out the "stereotypical" bit I suspect you'd be even more up in arms than you seemingly are.
She's merely describing her personal experiences.
For all I know, she may be a paid-up member of the Ku-Klux Klan but I think it's a bit much to jump to conclusions on the evidence at hand.”
'Up in arms'
I'm lying down.What conclusions? I merely asked why she felt the need to say stereotypical.
Originally Posted by DaisyDumplin:
“Yes let's
No let's not. No one here could ever call Saskia a racist. Even Saskia herself said she wasn't a racist.”
“Yes let's
No let's not. No one here could ever call Saskia a racist. Even Saskia herself said she wasn't a racist.”
she wasn't a racist but.....
Originally Posted by DaisyDumplin:
“Yes let's
No let's not. No one here could ever call Saskia a racist. Even Saskia herself said she wasn't a racist.”
“Yes let's
No let's not. No one here could ever call Saskia a racist. Even Saskia herself said she wasn't a racist.”
It makes you wonder why people need to preface what they say with 'I'm not a racist but..'.
Some believe that by prefacing what you say that way automatically means you are a racist.
Originally Posted by yahoodlums:
“People always get hysterical on here with any mention of race. I'm waiting for someone to use the word 'outrageous'.”
“People always get hysterical on here with any mention of race. I'm waiting for someone to use the word 'outrageous'.
”
That's a ridiculously outrageous statement. I want proof.
Originally Posted by DaisyDumplin:
“That's a ridiculously outrageous statement. I want proof.”
“That's a ridiculously outrageous statement. I want proof.
”
Thank you, my evening is now complete
Originally Posted by yahoodlums:
“Thank you, my evening is now complete”
“Thank you, my evening is now complete
”
Off the hook, **** about, I'm great. Now let me tuck you in with some cocoa and a nice Barbara Cartland
Originally Posted by DaisyDumplin:
“Yes let's
No let's not. No one here could ever call Saskia a racist. Even Saskia herself said she wasn't a racist.”
“Yes let's
No let's not. No one here could ever call Saskia a racist. Even Saskia herself said she wasn't a racist.”
She's not a racist but just going out with someone from another ethnic group doesn't automatically give you great insight into their heritage. I bet the black men she went out with probably weren't the church going pillars of the community. They were probably footballers and clubbers, who were not looking to settle down. Probably no different to the white guys, who also don't seem to have wanted to marry her.
Originally Posted by Mandark:
“Well...one theory is that in the days of African slavery, slavemasters would deliberately stop black men and women forming family units, thus preventing potentially rebellious communities forming. It is believed that this anti-family behaviour has carried on with black men down the ages. Thus many black men in the West are considered as having a love 'em and leave 'em reputation.”
“Well...one theory is that in the days of African slavery, slavemasters would deliberately stop black men and women forming family units, thus preventing potentially rebellious communities forming. It is believed that this anti-family behaviour has carried on with black men down the ages. Thus many black men in the West are considered as having a love 'em and leave 'em reputation.”
Originally Posted by september:
“utter rubbish.”
“utter rubbish.”
There's been research done on this & similar fields e.g. the higher than average incidence of various types of mental illness in afro-carribean males .
Before anyone jumps down my throat & calls me a racist I have been prominent in anti-raism struggles myself (& have the scars to prove it) & one of the most prominent early researchers on this subject (& a card carrying anticolonialist) was himself an afrocarribean by the name of franz fanon.
He did a great deal of research into the contemporary impact of slavery etc.
I'm not being stereotypical but every black person i've ever known was a thief. 
now how does that go down ?
now how does that go down ?
It is the type of men she chooses surely someone telling you they had, 22 partners at the age of 23, is not particularly likely to be good at finding Mr Right. She is more of a Mr Right-tonight kind of girl.
Originally Posted by preston41:
“It is the type of men she chooses surely someone telling you they had, 22 partners at the age of 23, is not particularly likely to be good at finding Mr Right. She is more of a Mr Right-tonight kind of girl.”
“It is the type of men she chooses surely someone telling you they had, 22 partners at the age of 23, is not particularly likely to be good at finding Mr Right. She is more of a Mr Right-tonight kind of girl.”
the way she puts down the ground rules might be something to do with no husband material either
her list of do nots would be enough to send any boyfriend overseas.
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“I'm not being stereotypical but every black person i've ever known was a thief.
now how does that go down ?”
“I'm not being stereotypical but every black person i've ever known was a thief.
now how does that go down ?
”
In prison?
Originally Posted by diverdee:
“There's been research done on this & similar fields e.g. the higher than average incidence of various types of mental illness in afro-carribean males .
Before anyone jumps down my throat & calls me a racist I have been prominent in anti-raism struggles myself (& have the scars to prove it) & one of the most prominent early researchers on this subject (& a card carrying anticolonialist) was himself an afrocarribean by the name of franz fanon.
He did a great deal of research into the contemporary impact of slavery etc.”
“There's been research done on this & similar fields e.g. the higher than average incidence of various types of mental illness in afro-carribean males .
Before anyone jumps down my throat & calls me a racist I have been prominent in anti-raism struggles myself (& have the scars to prove it) & one of the most prominent early researchers on this subject (& a card carrying anticolonialist) was himself an afrocarribean by the name of franz fanon.
He did a great deal of research into the contemporary impact of slavery etc.”
I'm not an expert but yes I can give my support to this. There's been a lot of research into the problems of the black family unit in the US. Poverty is probably the biggest factor but there are others and the legacy of slavery should not be forgotten.
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“I'm not being stereotypical but every black person i've ever known was a thief.
now how does that go down ?”
“I'm not being stereotypical but every black person i've ever known was a thief.
now how does that go down ?
”
I'm not going to doubt it but if you had only hung out with black church goers, you would have had a different experience.
It's like when Paul Condon of the Met said most muggers were black. He got a bit stumped when asked what about the muggers in Newcastle or Glasgow. You see he had only considered London with its large and relatively poor black community.
She's telling the truth from her experience, she's certainly not twisted any facts to appeal to anyone's worse nature - it's just that the uncomfortable thing about it all is that she, and others listening to her may not be able to seperate the personal from the general, and this may affect future judgements.
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