Really? Oh well what would I know. I've only been a feminist all my life and worked in a job women weren't traditionally associated with. Perhaps more feminists should have taken a practical approach instead of bickering about what is and isn't an anachronism?

Maybe then we wouldn't live in a world where a 19-year-old thinks the best way to garner popularity is to wear a slutty outfit. However, continue with your semantics.

We can't use the word "lady" now? Christ, phone the PC police.

Besides, it rhymes with "baby", you'd be putting 1000s of songwriters out of work

oh dear you do live up to your name

but shes in the house.....
oh no thats the pVc police

oh well you better go and shave your legs then
heres a site for you
http://www.thefword.org.uk/reviews/date/200501

i love this bit from that site

Not for Girls? The Yorkie and Echo Adverts
Catherine Redfern looks at the crazy world of chocolate advertising.

There are two very different chocolate adverts on British tv at the moment, offering two very different views about who should be eating the stuff and why. One claims that chocolate is for men only - literally, it's "not for girls" the ads say. The other puts forward the view that women literally cannot survive without chocolate and a world without it would be a world where half the human race lose their sanity



oh dear how sad

My g/f tried feminism once, when she was drunk. To be honest I found it quite a turn on.

pmsl hope my wife dont try it...the washing up will never get done

Grott-o-gram, more like!

You're hiding under my computer desk aren't you

I'll skip the feminism site. My point is I don't buy into all pc tosh

but you don't mind objecting if a woman decides to flout the politesse of being a 'lady'.

you're right lesley is no lady...but she's a very exciting definition of a real woman.

(cue: a million jokes about lesley the pig/walrus/lardbucket)

lol i did see your point you made in your post.

its a bit hot under here lol

feminism or domination

both if he was lucky

PMSL!! Classic! Thank you, aileen

me and the wife tried domination once, but i had to put a stop to it.
she tried to make me do the washing up with a butt plug in,,,i said " look there is now way will you ever ever ever get me to do that...you can put the plug in but you can do the washing up yourself"

Nothing wrong with having a bit of class


So in your world a real woman is a bullying harridan who can only scavenge some self-esteem by squeezing into an outfit designed solely to appeal to the male libido?

Sorry, I thought you were a feminist. I must have been mistaken.

And I haven't even gotten my plug out for you yet

The look on Max and Anthony's faces when they first saw her in that outfit were priceless. Something tells me they'd have no argument with the majority of what's been said in this thread.

God there is another day to go,

Lesley is singing and a policewoman. Craig has given birth. Roberto and Derek are hamming it up delivering the baby. Sam and Makosi have done a demi-Shell minus the innovative bit the lawn mower. Science is talking in strange american nurses accents. Derek thinks Saskia is playing up her ankle to get a sympathy vote..........Kemal will wear a dress next........perhaps not......

i think it's disgusting the way this girl is insulted. so what if she comes across as an attention seeker? they're all attention seekers to go on that show in the first place. earlier tonight makosi and sam were running round the garden almost naked for example. just because she's not stick thin, doesn't mean it's ok to be so cruel, especially when she's not even that fat at all! she's about size 16 but the way some of you go on you'd think she was size 26! and even if she was, so what? it's no justification for such nasty comments. like her or not there's really no need to hurl insults such as "fat les". it says a lot more about the person throwing these insults than it does about her.

See Lesleh's numerous Sam insults.


Fair enough but, then she's scared people won't like her.


True, but she thinks she's the biggest babe in creation and has the cheek to say Sam is ugly.


She claims she's size 12 (her mouth maybe.)


True but, what does it say about Lesleh when every other word she says is an insult about Sam?

What was she wearing? I missed it.

It must have been getting to her that Saskia has been wearing that nurses outfit.

A while back Lesley was complaining that someone hadn't said she looked great. It was damaging her confidence... Who was Lesley complaining about?

I'm not trying to justify any insults she's thrown at sam but 2 wrongs don't make a right. how can you criticise lesley's behaviour of throwing insults by throwing some back? it makes you just as bad. (i don't mean 'you' personally)

and so what if she says she's size 12? is that a justification for calling her "fat les" or "fat slut" or any of the other things i've seen her called? (in all fairness, if anyone is a "slut" it's Sam - that's all she went on about on her audition tape!) could it not possibly mean she's actually insecure about her size? think about it, if she was comfortable with her looks why would she lie about her dress size?

no, her calling Sam names isn't right but if people have a problem with that they should say so instead of calling her names in return. it doesn't even make sense to call someone names cos they're calling someone else names cos you're only invalidating your argument.