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Old 09-06-2005, 12:09
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Originally Posted by brunobrookes
Why do you think that the live feed gives you any fuller picture than the highlights? You do understand that the live feed is filtered too, yes?
Yes but not to the appawling filtering levels of the 10pm shows that are so in her favour, someone would only need to see about 5 minutes of the live feed anyday/anytime to know what Lesleys really like because everytime it cuts to her shes 99 times out of a hundred bitching someone - usually Sam
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:09
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Originally Posted by Plant
She doesn't need to connive with anyone.

Making sure the meal she made was too salty so everyone would moan about it and she'd be the injured "bullied" party isn't conniving?

She actually did that? On purpose?

Perhaps she's just a crap cook
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:14
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Originally Posted by Villa
Yes but not to the appawling filtering levels of the 10pm shows that are so in her favour, someone would only need to see about 5 minutes of the live feed anyday/anytime to know what Lesleys really like because everytime it cuts to her shes 99 times out of a hundred bitching someone - usually Sam
But you must concede that it's perfectly feasible that Sam could have been doing the same amount of bitching, but with a mixture of saying it quietly and selective coverage on the feed, it could appear that she is innocent.

I still want an answer to the question of why 3 HMs outside of the group voted for Sam, and gave similar reasons. Are you suggesting that "Team Britney" brainwashed 3 HMs into believing something that wasn't true? These are people that are IN the house, remember, unlike yourself.
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:15
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Originally Posted by brunobrookes
Ok, so you concede that the live feed is not really that - so is there a possibility that some things that eg Sam did didn't get through? Actions which could be behind the reasons why 3 other housemates outside of Lesley's group nommed her?
Its not particularly relevant what Sam did or didn't do. I am saying that Lesley is fairly invisible with regards to the C4 highlights show (as was Sam up until last night). With or without her treatment of Sam, Lesley has been pretty vile on the live streaming (constant bitching about absolutely everyone for one thing), but none of this has been shown on the highlights.
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:22
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Originally Posted by brunobrookes
But you must concede that it's perfectly feasible that Sam could have been doing the same amount of bitching, but with a mixture of saying it quietly and selective coverage on the feed, it could appear that she is innocent.

I still want an answer to the question of why 3 HMs outside of the group voted for Sam, and gave similar reasons. Are you suggesting that "Team Britney" brainwashed 3 HMs into believing something that wasn't true? These are people that are IN the house, remember, unlike yourself.
that is easily answered. On Sunday night Kemal, Craig, Derek Lesley Vanessa and Makosi were discussing noms and all decided to vote for Sam, with reasons. So that explains Derek and Makosi who are both playing a game and would vote tactically if they knew who else was going to be voted for.

As for Roberto, he doesn't get on with Sam and has had a few clashes with her and therefore just doesn't like her - which is allowed. And Roberto and Makosi didn't have the same reasons as Team Bitchney.

So Team Bitchney voted together and Derek and Makosi just joined them for tactical reasons.
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:28
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To be honest, I really think it might be fear on the part of Endemol. Fear that if they show the bullying in full, the regulator will ask them why the hell they didn't do more than just warn Lesleh. Even after two warnings, she's still bitching and clearly won't let Sam be. And also I think they fear for her personal safety when she gets out. Anyone who is that vile and nasty must be a risk from someone giving them a good slap. Endemol may be trying to tone things down for Lesleh's own safety.
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:40
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After watching the C4 highlights last night they seem to have started to turn the editing around to show Sam in a more favourable light, eg: showing her trying to sing that song with the others.

Whereas Lesley is being shown more like the Lesley people who are watching the live streaming have already seen. Such as her bitchy catwalk imitations which were shown last night.

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Old 09-06-2005, 12:44
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Originally Posted by afcbfan
She actually did that? On purpose?

Perhaps she's just a crap cook
If you make a crap meal you know it's crap (especially if it's too salty) and any normal person would be mortified and be all apologetic.

Sam pretended it was nice and she liked it.
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:49
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Originally Posted by Cornchips
It concerns me that so much covering up has been done about the bullying that the majority of people who just watch the highlights don't know just how bad Lesley really is. When I have asked people at work who only watch the highlights they are stunned when I say Lesley is the favourite to go (most of them think Craig should be).

I just wonder whether Lesley is going to evade eviction this week, down to the fact that she has thus far had good editing. (Of course tonight that may all change - although I doubt it).

Have any of the papers picked up on her "bullying"? Or is it just us?
Are watch Big Bro on E4 all the time mate..ana still think Lesley is a top bird...Sam likes to ava bitch at Lesley she's just not as good as her at it! Lesley to win..show them jumped up hoochies what a Yorkshire Bird is like!!
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:07
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Originally Posted by Fallen-Angel
After watching the C4 highlights last night they seem to have started to turn the editing around to show Sam in a more favourable light, eg: showing her trying to sing that song with the others.
From what I can gather, Sam was actually taking the p!$$ out of Lesleh's singing, though the C4 show didn't make this clear.

Not sure whether that depicts her in a better or worse light, just thought it relevant.
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:09
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Originally Posted by Plant
If you make a crap meal you know it's crap (especially if it's too salty) and any normal person would be mortified and be all apologetic.

Sam pretended it was nice and she liked it.
She new it was too salty and was advised on how to correct this by Roberto she didn't want this so really must of wanted to p*ss off the others.
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:11
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Was having this discussion with my o/h last night. I'm concerned that the little cow is going to get away with it due to their editing.
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:17
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My hubby doesn't watch the live feed and doesn't bother with any of the websites - he's not a great BB fan but from the bits he HAS seen on C4 he easily identified Lesleh's bullying behaviour. I guess it's partly down to how perceptive the viewer is...
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:19
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Originally Posted by weebear1974
My hubby doesn't watch the live feed and doesn't bother with any of the websites - he's not a great BB fan but from the bits he HAS seen on C4 he easily identified Lesleh's bullying behaviour. I guess it's partly down to how perceptive the viewer is...
Also alot to do with Sam and anti-lesley group seeing supposed bias against Sam just because they are looking for it.
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:21
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I didn't realise how hated Lesley was until I read this forum. From watching the show I thought Kemal was the bully and Lesley his mindless follower.

Most people I speak aren't aware that bullying is even an issue. I wouldn't be surprised to see Craig or Vanessa to go.
Actually, I believe Kemal is a bit of a 'bully' too..he has totally changed Roberto's personality from the way he has brought him down.

As for Lesley, my sister only see's the C4 show and wants totally different people to win to the ones I do. She thinks Lesley and Derek are lovely (I don't mind Derek but we haven't got to see his other side on the show yet).

However, do not forget, there is always BBLB and yesterday they did show another side to Lesley in their news...so maybe people will see that too as it is on C4.

I don't like Sam anymore..she really annoyed me on the live show and the C4 show last night. I don't think she is very nice...but that still doesn't excuse Lesleys behaviour.
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