Now wait a couple of minutes for the next "yeah, but..." Forum bully, sorry anti-Lesley poster to justify their actions...

But its alright for you to call Maxwell vile......and Sam and Saskia stupid as I saw in another post.

I am not defending Lesley for one second. I don't particularly like her or Sam. They BOTH have very unlikable qualities imo.

I think Lesleys behavoiur is unacceptable, I woudlnt' and couldn't defend it.

My point is that alot of the people slagging Lesley off, are using an agressive horrid tone, similar to the way that Lesley refers to Sam.

I just think it is a double standard to criticize Lesleys behaviour and then to emulate that very behaviour to demonize her.

Bullies deserve a taste of their own medicine. Once they know how it feels, the chances are they'll think twice about similar behaviour in the future.

Being booed and seen as a figure of hate by a mob publicly, and probably for a good few weeks if not more is a taste of her own medicine. Its far worse IMO. And the people rooting for it are no better.

And so it seems one bad turn does deserve another.


I give up!!

You see, there's always an excuse! Brilliant!

dont come on here then...bye

I cant agree with that. Bullying is always wrong. Telling the truth is not wrong however.

Lesley is vile to Sam - Fact
Lesley is Northern - Fact
Lesley is Fat - Fact
Lesley wears slutty clothes - fact
Lisley is Ugly - opinion

So to call her a "Vile Fat Northern Slut" is factual. However calling her ugly would make it bullying.

IMO

that really is the best yet!!
LOL!!

So name calling, isn't racist, it's factual!!
Aaaaahhhh see I didn't know that?
You learn a new one every day!!

Its not bullying.. ever heard of the saying
"whats she doesnt know wont hurt her" ?

So its ok to bully as long as its behind someones back. Nice

What annoys me about the double standards on these forums is people assume they are better than a bully because they are vaguely literate and can string a few words together. Hiding behind a brain is the same as hiding behind a fist - youre still a bully.

Where does race enter this?

I am unaware that there is any law that makes Yorkshire a race?

I know what you're getting at but saying something nasty but factual does not make it right and can still be classes as bullying. What if Lesley genuinley believes all she says about Sam is factual? Would it still make it bullying?

sorry lesley bings everything on herself

first she attacks the others as soon as they walk through the door with comments about her boobs

she says she wouldnt get her baps out for the lads..she did that on day one

she constantly says how good looking she is and how she is stunning...(she isnt bad looking)

she is always putting someone down

what are fms supposed to do ignore all of her comments and pretend she is a nice person

i have not said anything on here i would not say to her face

bullies are villifide thats whats happened on this forum

rant over.

There is a difference with Lesley. I am very careful with what I say about people. I do not threaten nor do I accuse and I remain factual.

With regards Lesley, Everyone has a right to say what they believe about others. So on its own, if Lesley believes what she is saying, then it is not necesarally bullying. She has the right to say those things. It becomes bullying when she starts to threaten the other person and uses her "perceived facts" to back up her threats. Also when she uses these "percieved" facts to get other people on her side in order to put the other person down.

So thats where I see the difference.

Self righteousness is what happens on this forums. And too much of it. Anyone would think all of you are perfect.

Ive bullied. Ive been bullied. Nobody is perfect.

I do think Lesley takes it too far sometimes but i wouldnt call it bullying personally, just bitching (which is nasty too), but at one point or other Im sure we have all bitched about someone we havent liked. Mary made a point yesterday of saying there are things we dont see , that Sam gives it back alot too.
I think nothing justifies a hate campaign and a booing frenzy from a baying mob unless of course they were actual dangerous criminals or something.

Hysteria??? Where on earth do you get that from?

Have I attacked lesley as a person (unlike many) - No
Resorted to name calling - No
Tried to be rational about not watching behaviour I find unacceptable - Yes

Again, I don't particularly like Sam, but lesley's behaviour is unacceptable, has been downplayed, and if the GBP keep her in, I don't want to watch, as is my choice.

If you want to watch people bullying, fine - just don't expect me to come for the ride....

Cool!!! We get to watch all the bullying we like without moaning and whinging polictically correct hysteria. Bring it on!! Its what BB is about!

Fantastic post.

If that's what you want :yawn:

I'd rather see some more complex and interesting interactions and arguments.

Then BB hasnt and never will be the show to watch. Try Question Time.

You sound like Draccy Stallone! Look they're all vapid, exhibitionist wannabees in there, who would probably crush their own mother's windpipe for fame. You are not gonna find any interesting interactions on that level. It is all about bitchiness, hostility and being the winner.

Draccy Stallone? Do you mean, brackie??

Ah memories...

Sorry back to topic....