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Old 09-06-2005, 13:05
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Originally Posted by metafis
If these figures are genuine then IM sure if BB producers read this forum they will be asking very serious questions about how they are leaked, and may ask DS to provide details of the poster.
Not sure if DS are legally obliged to do this though.
I think they only have to reveal details if they are presented with a court order.
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:06
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sam is 5/1 now?
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:07
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Originally Posted by rockjack
sam is 5/1 now?
At totesport, yes.
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:08
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So tonight's highlight show will show Sam running around the garden topless, will this decrease her chances for eviction?
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:08
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ooh maybe it will spout a betting coup
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:09
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Originally Posted by Cyberhuss
So tonight's highlight show will show Sam running around the garden topless, will this decrease her chances for eviction?
no i meant lesley getting put down by maxwell for picking on sam and getting warned by big brother for her intimidating behaviour towards sam
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:10
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Thing is, if Lesleh stays and goes on to, for example, slap Vanessa one (entirely possible), I think Endemol can kiss goodbye to there ever being another BB. There is just no possible good reason for them wanting Lesleh to stay, as far as I can make out. As I mentioned elsewhere, I think the soft edit might have been to do with ensuring Lesleh's personal safety once she gets out. Having said that, I am pretty sure they will have no option but to be anti-Lesleh/anti-bullying on tonight's shows.
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:12
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Also, I really cannot believe bookies, who have the best inside info available, would be offering odds as long as 5-1 on Sam going if there was a strong chance of it actually happening.
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:13
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im just hoping sam does nothing today that will be able to be exploited by the editors to turn people against her on friday in the last hour before the eviction
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:14
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Well, I hope Kaitho is right, like last time. I really want the vile Lesleh out.

I'm actually considering MULTIPLE-VOTING this week, for the first time... ever, in fact.

Keep us updated Kaitho!
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:20
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Even the news articles on the C4 site have done a much better job of showing how bad Lesley has been than the highlight shows. After Lesley and Sam "made up" yesterday, they have all the footage they need to downplay how bad Lesley has been, make it look like Sam was being paranoid (they even have Sam saying that!), and then put in whatever negative stuff about Sam they can find.

There's not much that individual viewers can do, but I will stop watching BB if Lesley doesn't go on Friday and Sam stay.
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:22
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Originally Posted by Villa
im just hoping sam does nothing today that will be able to be exploited by the editors to turn people against her on friday in the last hour before the eviction
They have plenty of material from yesterday that they could use tonight. Not that Sam has done anything very bad, but the raw materials are there for a spin that would save Lesley. (See my previous message for a bit more.)
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:22
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Originally Posted by Veri
Even the news articles on the C4 site have done a much better job of showing how bad Lesley has been than the highlight shows. After Lesley and Sam "made up" yesterday, they have all the footage they need to downplay how bad Lesley has been, make it look like Sam was being paranoid (they even have Sam saying that!), and then put in whatever negative stuff about Sam they can find.

There's not much that individual viewers can do, but I will stop watching BB if Lesley doesn't go on Friday and Sam stay.
I think a lot of people will be annoyed, Veri, I'll give you that.

I have high hopes for tonight. If the editing is blatenty anti-Sam, what with all the spiteful and nasty things Lesley did yesterday, I'll lose a little more faith in the BB system.

The editing wasn't BAD to start off with. Now the evictions are coming around they've started to pursue their old agenda, again...
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:24
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Originally Posted by Cyberhuss
So tonight's highlight show will show Sam running around the garden topless, will this decrease her chances for eviction?
No, it will increase the likelihood that Sam will be evicted by highlighting some of the factors that made Sam disliked in the first place. Lads don't vote, girls who dislike Sam-types do.
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:25
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nothing bad will be shown of lesley tonight

why should tonight be any different

they havent shown her bitching so why do it now
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:26
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Originally Posted by fdooby
As I mentioned elsewhere, I think the soft edit might have been to do with ensuring Lesleh's personal safety once she gets out. .
Yes, I agree with this theory, I think I mentioned it somewhere as well.
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:32
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Originally Posted by fdooby
As I mentioned elsewhere, I think the soft edit might have been to do with ensuring Lesleh's personal safety once she gets out.
This is a possibility.

There's a theory that this is what Endemol tried to do to Jade in BB3 when she was up for eviction (and they had to step up security) to try and ensure that she didn't get mobbed if she was evicted over Adele.

The problem was that it made people focus more on Adele and as a result she was evicted over Jade.

Let's hope that doesn't happen this time...
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:32
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Originally Posted by metafis
Yes, I agree with this theory, I think I mentioned it somewhere as well.
Yes.I agree too...they did it with Jade, and even changed the nominations so she wouldn't go that week as the public hated her big time at that point.
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:32
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Originally Posted by Kaitho
Sorry - I've been through this before - no, I'm not revealing source. It's a smallish set of data, it's not based on all votes cast, although previously the dataset has been very reflective of the overall picture.
Is this actual phone vote data? I think you should make the distinction clear.
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:32
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Originally Posted by fdooby
Also, I really cannot believe bookies, who have the best inside info available, would be offering odds as long as 5-1 on Sam going if there was a strong chance of it actually happening.
But they haven't seen tonights C4 show.

Remember that the BB producers put Lesley and Craig in the show, and they're just doing what Craig said he would in his audition tape. Also, they let Lesley and Co continue to go after Sam until yesterday, rather than taking steps before.

Has BBLB changed from being anti-Sam to being anti-Lesley? And what's been happening on Big Mouth? I don't know because I haven't been watching them, but they're more evidence of what the producers have in mind.
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:33
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Originally Posted by Bohochick
Yes.I agree too...they did it with Jade, and even changed the nominations so she wouldn't go that week as the public hated her big time at that point.
All the more reason to think they'll make Sam go.
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:34
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I don't think I have ever waited with such anticipation for the edited show tonight.

As some have said given Sam was in the wrong re the task, and the point Lesley was making was actually correct, there is enough footage to put a spin on it to get Sam out, and also put Max in a bad light for challenging Lesley. However, if they show the whole story of how Lesley actually dealt with Sam then Lesley is a gonna. I sure hope its the latter.
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:35
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Originally Posted by metafis
If these figures are genuine then IM sure if BB producers read this forum they will be asking very serious questions about how they are leaked, and may ask DS to provide details of the poster.
Not sure if DS are legally obliged to do this though.
I do hope not. Perhaps I'd better shut up.
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:38
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Originally Posted by Kaitho
I do hope not. Perhaps I'd better shut up.
Noooo! Please don't! We need you!

PS any updates?
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Old 09-06-2005, 13:41
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Originally Posted by Cornchips
I don't think I have ever waited with such anticipation for the edited show tonight.

As some have said given Sam was in the wrong re the task, and the point Lesley was making was actually correct, there is enough footage to put a spin on it to get Sam out, and also put Max in a bad light for challenging Lesley. However, if they show the whole story of how Lesley actually dealt with Sam then Lesley is a gonna. I sure hope its the latter.
The only bright side will be that if Lesley doesn't go (and Sam stay -- no tricks, BB!) it will at least demonstrate to most people here that the edit for the C4 show can mislead viewers and affect what happens in a very significant way.
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