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Lesley's REAL problem with Sam
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tisiphone
09-06-2005
Is that Sam has succeeded without trying to fascinate the available males in the house. Without having to resort to dubious plastic clothing.
CLL Dodge
09-06-2005
Or much clothing at all.
Leprechaun
09-06-2005
Originally Posted by tisiphone:
“Is that Sam has succeeded without trying to fascinate the available males in the house. Without having to resort to dubious plastic clothing.”

You might get a few people agreeing with you on the several other Lesley vs Sam threads on the forum
mrs brody
09-06-2005
Jealousy - simple
fdooby
09-06-2005
Look at Sam's hot slim bod and attractive face, coupled with her generally quiet demeanour. Then look at Lesleh. That's the real problem Lesleh has - one of her own making.
wideangle
09-06-2005
Originally Posted by mrs brody:
“Jealousy - simple”

it is a simple as that
aileenwuornos
09-06-2005
i now really enjoy to watch sam but your statement is absurd. sam (initially) had done very little but try to fascinate the men in the house. she cold-shouldered every single woman there and sat constantly (if mutely) with the 'lads'. did you see it when she jumped in to snog that cretin anthony? i certainly did and nearly barfed.

she may have forsaken pvc but in favour of what? a constant bikini!...and last night if my eyes were working correctly she was running across the lawn in much less than that.
Dannouk
09-06-2005
Originally Posted by fdooby:
“Look at Sam's hot slim bod and attractive face, coupled with her generally quiet demeanour. Then look at Lesleh. That's the real problem Lesleh has - one of her own making.”

I actually think thats the forum members real problem. Its easy to hate Leslie because she isnt so pleasing on the eye. Its a gut superficial reaction. Its easy to like the good looking one - thats why kids hang round the good looking one at school. If Princess Anne had died like Diana would there have been such an outpouring of grief? No. Diana was an attractive woman so people found it easier to worship her. Its base human superficiality.
afcbfan
09-06-2005
Originally Posted by Dannouk:
“I actually think thats the forum members real problem. Its easy to hate Leslie because she isnt so pleasing on the eye. Its a gut superficial reaction. Its easy to like the good looking one - thats why kids hang round the good looking one at school. If Princess Anne had died like Diana would there have been such an outpouring of grief? No. Diana was an attractive woman so people found it easier to worship her. Its base human superficiality.”

If I had a choice of, ahem, boffing Sam or Lesleh, then I'd choose the latter everytime. That doesn't make her a nice human being, however.
tisiphone
09-06-2005
at least she put them on the line so to speak - all lesleh does is poke them out of her top (they look like a giant arse to me anyway) and direct her cleavage at the nearest heterosexual male. Sam's behaviour garnered results, and Lesley's increasingly desperate tactics have done nothing but make her look like (forgive it.....) a tit.
munta
09-06-2005
Originally Posted by Dannouk:
“I actually think thats the forum members real problem. Its easy to hate Leslie because she isnt so pleasing on the eye. Its a gut superficial reaction. Its easy to like the good looking one - thats why kids hang round the good looking one at school. If Princess Anne had died like Diana would there have been such an outpouring of grief? No. Diana was an attractive woman so people found it easier to worship her. Its base human superficiality.”

You have jumpped to the wrong conclusion. Lesley is not pleasing on the ear. I believe that most FMs find Lesleys personality more ugly than her body.
tisiphone
09-06-2005
Originally Posted by Dannouk:
“I actually think thats the forum members real problem. Its easy to hate Leslie because she isnt so pleasing on the eye. Its a gut superficial reaction. Its easy to like the good looking one - thats why kids hang round the good looking one at school. If Princess Anne had died like Diana would there have been such an outpouring of grief? No. Diana was an attractive woman so people found it easier to worship her. Its base human superficiality.”

That simply isn't so - if Sam sat around all day demanding attention for imagined good looks then we would be at her throat as well. The basis for Lesley coming in was her massively inflated ego.
aileenwuornos
09-06-2005
Originally Posted by Dannouk:
“I actually think thats the forum members real problem. Its easy to hate Leslie because she isnt so pleasing on the eye. Its a gut superficial reaction. Its easy to like the good looking one - thats why kids hang round the good looking one at school. If Princess Anne had died like Diana would there have been such an outpouring of grief? No. Diana was an attractive woman so people found it easier to worship her. Its base human superficiality.”

agreed. many of the people here have hated lesley from the outset for being either fat, ugly, common, sluttish or northern...all crimes against ladyhood. so that as soon as any available amunition becomes available to credibily attack her about they rush to it...except there is a chink in their cover...for as soon as they do so out spill the real reasons for their dislike too...cue: a billion photoshopped lesley heads morphed with jabba the hut, and fat, ugly, chav jokes.
Dannouk
09-06-2005
Originally Posted by aileenwuornos:
“agreed. many of the people here have hated lesley from the outset for being either fat, ugly, common, sluttish or northern...all crimes against ladyhood. so that as soon as any available amunition becomes available to credibily attack her about they rush to it...except there is a chink in their cover...for as soon as they do so out spill the real reasons for their dislike too...cue: a billion photoshopped lesley heads morphed with jabba the hut, and fat, ugly, chav jokes.”

Exactly. I dont particularly like her either but some justification other than her size and her northern origins would be good. So next theyll go for the bullying argument - whether it was bullying is a matter of opinion. So they return to "well shes loud and fat". Snobbishness rules here im afraid.
ulysses32
09-06-2005
Originally Posted by Dannouk:
“I actually think thats the forum members real problem. Its easy to hate Leslie because she isnt so pleasing on the eye. Its a gut superficial reaction. Its easy to like the good looking one - thats why kids hang round the good looking one at school. If Princess Anne had died like Diana would there have been such an outpouring of grief? No. Diana was an attractive woman so people found it easier to worship her. Its base human superficiality.”




its not just the looks, listen to her..
tisiphone
09-06-2005
Would one of the enlightened people above then elucidate me upon some of her qualities? Perhaps I should mention that I was born within spitting distance from Huddersfield, and have no problem with larger figures. Lesley riles as she has little or no self awareness or modesty. She has overexposed the only reasons for which she has gone in, and personally I find her hypocritical persecution a little hard to stomach.
Dannouk
09-06-2005
Originally Posted by tisiphone:
“Lesley riles as she has little or no self awareness or modesty. She has overexposed the only reasons for which she has gone in, and personally I find her hypocritical persecution a little hard to stomach.”

Sam riles as she has little or no self awareness or modesty. She has overexposed the only reasons for which she has gone in, and personally I find her hypocritical persecution a little hard to stomach.
ulysses32
09-06-2005
Originally Posted by aileenwuornos:
“agreed. many of the people here have hated lesley from the outset for being either fat, ugly, common, sluttish or northern...all crimes against ladyhood. so that as soon as any available amunition becomes available to credibily attack her about they rush to it...except there is a chink in their cover...for as soon as they do so out spill the real reasons for their dislike too...cue: a billion photoshopped lesley heads morphed with jabba the hut, and fat, ugly, chav jokes.”


EVERYDAY, we ALL make judgements, thats what we do, and its THOSE judgements that are in place to vote people out of the house.. its natural to chose on many/few reasons.. ALL housemates have critisisms layed at them, by us out here and also inside... whether its cos she is fat, think or whatever, we have our personal thoughts.

the problems i see is that most other HM have farly simple faults, but lesleh is deficient on many levels, except having the biggest udders cept her maam n naaan
aileenwuornos
09-06-2005
i've said this a million times already but lesley is the seasoning in a show like big brother...her immodesty and will-to-power drive big brother towards intersting territory. i've taken to calling her the chilli sauce to add to derek and makosi's salt and pepper, on an otherwise plate of plain potatoes.
Dannouk
09-06-2005
Originally Posted by aileenwuornos:
“i've said this a million times already but lesley is the seasoning in a show like big brother...her immodesty and will-to-power drive big brother towards intersting territory. i've taken to calling her the chilli sauce to add to derek and makosi's salt and pepper, on an otherwise plate of plain potatoes.”

Yes but they are all dying to be rid of her so they can all smugly post on here after shes gone about how this series is very dull, Endemol ruined the format, and its the end of BB. They fuel themselves these people.
tisiphone
09-06-2005
no really, please tell me how she is entertaining? So far, as a dedicated watcher I have only ever see her reinforcing the stereotypical attention seeking whore character. Apart from lying around slagging other housemates off I cannot see what she contributes. Other than the aforementioned chest, which I am sure will have it's admirers. I am keen to see her take on board a reality check which is what I hope will happen once she leaves the house. She has it coming......
aileenwuornos
09-06-2005
Originally Posted by Dannouk:
“ They fuel themselves these people.”

if that's what they'll do then they do. it's a shame that they're not able to understand what makes big brother interesting yet after six series. i guess hysteria overwhelms the rational senses, doesn't it?
tisiphone
09-06-2005
Originally Posted by aileenwuornos:
“if that's what they'll do then they do. it's a shame that they're not able to understand what makes big brother interesting yet after six series. i guess hysteria overwhelms the rational senses, doesn't it?”

We are merely lamenting the inclusion of a vapid character.
Dannouk
09-06-2005
Originally Posted by aileenwuornos:
“if that's what they'll do then they do. it's a shame that they're not able to understand what makes big brother interesting yet after six series. i guess hysteria overwhelms the rational senses, doesn't it?”

It does on here. People I talk to in the real world dont mind Leslie at all ! The whole bullying thing was forgotten by most people by the ad break!
fdooby
09-06-2005
Originally Posted by aileenwuornos:
“agreed. many of the people here have hated lesley from the outset for being either fat, ugly, common, sluttish or northern...all crimes against ladyhood. so that as soon as any available amunition becomes available to credibily attack her about they rush to it...except there is a chink in their cover...for as soon as they do so out spill the real reasons for their dislike too...cue: a billion photoshopped lesley heads morphed with jabba the hut, and fat, ugly, chav jokes.”

Wrong. I hated her from the moment she told Saskia that her breasts 'must' be fake. From that point onwards it was clear that Lesleh was jealous and nasty. If Lesleh was bubbly and good fun, everyone would love her, whatever she looked like.
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