Originally Posted by albowski:
“Brilliant post!”
“Brilliant post!”
Why thank you!
*blushes*
Derek=Legend
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Originally Posted by Luxxy:
“I don't particularly like Sam, but can appreciate that he was bang out of order.”
“I don't particularly like Sam, but can appreciate that he was bang out of order.”
Totally agree. I don't like Sam but the way Derek behaved and spoke to her was vile. Really liked him up until this week as well, can't wait to see the back of him now.
Originally Posted by Plant:
“ He knew she was deliberately sabotaging the meal so I don't blame him getting pissed off.”
“ He knew she was deliberately sabotaging the meal so I don't blame him getting pissed off.”
In what way did she sabotage the meal? Have I missed something here? Are you saying that she made a meal for everyone and deliberately made it awful?
Originally Posted by JTW:
“In what way did she sabotage the meal? Have I missed something here? Are you saying that she made a meal for everyone and deliberately made it awful?”
“In what way did she sabotage the meal? Have I missed something here? Are you saying that she made a meal for everyone and deliberately made it awful?
”
Yes I am
Originally Posted by phonicBrian:
“Derek is a pure bastard. Anyone that thought he was funny tonight is just as bad as him.”
“Derek is a pure bastard. Anyone that thought he was funny tonight is just as bad as him.”
Aww bless.
Well, count me as a pure bastard then.
Originally Posted by Plant:
“Yes I am”
“Yes I am
”
but how? I'm genuinely asking a valid question here. I didn't see the livefeed.
Originally Posted by Plant:
“Yes I am”
“Yes I am
”
Could you expand a bit? I didn't quite catch the run-up to the Derek / Sam shock horror situation, just saw him really really angry with her, which was a bit of a surprise.
thanks
Originally Posted by JTW:
“but how? I'm genuinely asking a valid question here. I didn't see the livefeed.”
“but how? I'm genuinely asking a valid question here. I didn't see the livefeed.”
Basically she deliberately made it too salty. Now even if you are a bad cook you know when you've put too much salt in something. It was almost inedible. When Roberto tried to give her some advice to tone it down she pretended she liked it and it was nice.
That was the clincher for me. If she'd accepted his advice no one would have been suspicious. By saying she thought it was nice confirms her guilt for me.
This is how Sam operates. She does things to annoy people the cameras can't pick up. If people complain, they look like the bad ones.
what we have here is a classic case of the bullied becoming the bully. I mean he goes by the nickname 'golly' ffs
a name given to him by his "friends" at bording school. Lots of weak, unattractive, inferior men, when given a little bit of power over somebody, will soon turn spitefull, vindictive and just plain nasty.
Believe it. Stalin did. It was how he recruited his secret police.
a name given to him by his "friends" at bording school. Lots of weak, unattractive, inferior men, when given a little bit of power over somebody, will soon turn spitefull, vindictive and just plain nasty.
Believe it. Stalin did. It was how he recruited his secret police.
Originally Posted by Plant:
“I'm sorry but the way she said you can go now in the dismissive giggly way as they were trying to offer her advice (I'm sure she did it on purpose) would have really wound me up as well. He knew she was deliberately sabotaging the meal so I don't blame him getting pissed off.
And I can't stand Derek.”
“I'm sorry but the way she said you can go now in the dismissive giggly way as they were trying to offer her advice (I'm sure she did it on purpose) would have really wound me up as well. He knew she was deliberately sabotaging the meal so I don't blame him getting pissed off.
And I can't stand Derek.”
It's strange how people see the same thing in different ways. My impression of it was - Sam looked happy to be cooking. Roberto said it tasted "slightly salty". Sam didn't seem too concerned at his criticism. Roberto and Derek were crowding her while she was trying to cook, and that's when she said (laughing) OK, you can go now.
It's the kind of thing I would say - meaning give me a bit of space to get on with this - no nastiness intended. That she was being lighthearted about it was obvious by the shock on her face when Derek had a go at her.
Originally Posted by BIG BRA:
“what we have here is a classic case of the bullied becoming the bully. I mean he goes by the nickname 'golly' ffs
a name given to him by his "friends" at bording school. Lots of weak, unattractive, inferior men, when given a little bit of power over somebody, will soon turn spitefull, vindictive and just plain nasty.
Believe it. Stalin did. It was how he recruited his secret police.”
“what we have here is a classic case of the bullied becoming the bully. I mean he goes by the nickname 'golly' ffs
a name given to him by his "friends" at bording school. Lots of weak, unattractive, inferior men, when given a little bit of power over somebody, will soon turn spitefull, vindictive and just plain nasty.
Believe it. Stalin did. It was how he recruited his secret police.”
This is hilarious!!
Or very very sad indeed.
Who knows? You decide...etc
Originally Posted by BIG BRA:
“ I mean he goes by the nickname 'golly' ffs
a name given to him by his "friends" at bording school. .”
“ I mean he goes by the nickname 'golly' ffs
a name given to him by his "friends" at bording school. .”
I heard that his nickname at boarding school was Coco-Nutz. <allegedly>
I thought the incident was funny. Sam was that devastated that she is now having a cosy chat with Derek and Roberto
Originally Posted by Kaylar:
“It's strange how people see the same thing in different ways. My impression of it was - Sam looked happy to be cooking. Roberto said it tasted "slightly salty". Sam didn't seem too concerned at his criticism. Roberto and Derek were crowding her while she was trying to cook, and that's when she said (laughing) OK, you can go now.
It's the kind of thing I would say - meaning give me a bit of space to get on with this - no nastiness intended. That she was being lighthearted about it was obvious by the shock on her face when Derek had a go at her.”
“It's strange how people see the same thing in different ways. My impression of it was - Sam looked happy to be cooking. Roberto said it tasted "slightly salty". Sam didn't seem too concerned at his criticism. Roberto and Derek were crowding her while she was trying to cook, and that's when she said (laughing) OK, you can go now.
It's the kind of thing I would say - meaning give me a bit of space to get on with this - no nastiness intended. That she was being lighthearted about it was obvious by the shock on her face when Derek had a go at her.”
Totally agree, that was my impression too, also perhaps she was a bit embarrassed.
Originally Posted by cheeks:
“I thought the incident was funny. Sam was that devastated that she is now having a cosy chat with Derek and Roberto”
“I thought the incident was funny. Sam was that devastated that she is now having a cosy chat with Derek and Roberto”
I think most of them just have got used to Derek's little tantrums, he has about one a day but they don't really mean nothing.
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“Derek didn't fuk about did he ?
i reckon Lesley would have kicked the living shit out of him.”
“Derek didn't fuk about did he ?
i reckon Lesley would have kicked the living shit out of him.
”
No, no, Pitman - she'd just use "words"
Dereks humour is classic! He manages to wrong foot people because they don't know if he's joking or not but keeps a straight face throughout. I bizarrely like him and don't know why!
Originally Posted by Plant:
“Basically she deliberately made it too salty. Now even if you are a bad cook you know when you've put too much salt in something. It was almost inedible. When Roberto tried to give her some advice to tone it down she pretended she liked it and it was nice.
That was the clincher for me. If she'd accepted his advice no one would have been suspicious. By saying she thought it was nice confirms her guilt for me.
This is how Sam operates. She does things to annoy people the cameras can't pick up. If people complain, they look like the bad ones.”
“Basically she deliberately made it too salty. Now even if you are a bad cook you know when you've put too much salt in something. It was almost inedible. When Roberto tried to give her some advice to tone it down she pretended she liked it and it was nice.
That was the clincher for me. If she'd accepted his advice no one would have been suspicious. By saying she thought it was nice confirms her guilt for me.
This is how Sam operates. She does things to annoy people the cameras can't pick up. If people complain, they look like the bad ones.”
Thanks for this. But do you really think that Sam is that devious? It seems extraordinary to go against all your basic instincts to integrate, be accepted etc. and to deliberately sabotage the one thing that everyone needs - food.
I;m finding it hard to believe that. There must be something else behind it.
Originally Posted by Plant:
“Basically she deliberately made it too salty. Now even if you are a bad cook you know when you've put too much salt in something. It was almost inedible. When Roberto tried to give her some advice to tone it down she pretended she liked it and it was nice.
That was the clincher for me. If she'd accepted his advice no one would have been suspicious. By saying she thought it was nice confirms her guilt for me.
This is how Sam operates. She does things to annoy people the cameras can't pick up. If people complain, they look like the bad ones.”
“Basically she deliberately made it too salty. Now even if you are a bad cook you know when you've put too much salt in something. It was almost inedible. When Roberto tried to give her some advice to tone it down she pretended she liked it and it was nice.
That was the clincher for me. If she'd accepted his advice no one would have been suspicious. By saying she thought it was nice confirms her guilt for me.
This is how Sam operates. She does things to annoy people the cameras can't pick up. If people complain, they look like the bad ones.”
Fair enough Plant. I can see where your coming from in regard to Roberto giving her advice to tone it down as it was too salty. I don't understand why she didn't take it. I'm confused as I thought I heard her asking him to taste it.
However, I still don't get Derek sticking his oar in and being really viscious to her when she asked him in a lighthearted way for him to leave.
Originally Posted by JTW:
“Fair enough Plant. I can see where your coming from in regard to Roberto giving her advice to tone it down as it was too salty. I don't understand why she didn't take it. I'm confused as I thought I heard her asking him to taste it.
However, I still don't get Derek sticking his oar in and being really viscious to her when she asked him in a lighthearted way for him to leave.”
“Fair enough Plant. I can see where your coming from in regard to Roberto giving her advice to tone it down as it was too salty. I don't understand why she didn't take it. I'm confused as I thought I heard her asking him to taste it.
However, I still don't get Derek sticking his oar in and being really viscious to her when she asked him in a lighthearted way for him to leave.”
Because he was hungry, knew she was deliberately f*cking up the meal, and her being annoyingly dismissive and giggly about it was the last straw.
Originally Posted by Plant:
“Basically she deliberately made it too salty. Now even if you are a bad cook you know when you've put too much salt in something. It was almost inedible. When Roberto tried to give her some advice to tone it down she pretended she liked it and it was nice.
That was the clincher for me. If she'd accepted his advice no one would have been suspicious. By saying she thought it was nice confirms her guilt for me.
This is how Sam operates. She does things to annoy people the cameras can't pick up. If people complain, they look like the bad ones.”
“Basically she deliberately made it too salty. Now even if you are a bad cook you know when you've put too much salt in something. It was almost inedible. When Roberto tried to give her some advice to tone it down she pretended she liked it and it was nice.
That was the clincher for me. If she'd accepted his advice no one would have been suspicious. By saying she thought it was nice confirms her guilt for me.
This is how Sam operates. She does things to annoy people the cameras can't pick up. If people complain, they look like the bad ones.”
I honestly don't think I've ever read twaddle like this in my life. You put Mr Blonde to shame with that one
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