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do we have to remember lesley is 19?
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rockjack
09-06-2005
i agree she behaved badly but is it down to immaturity
Mykonos
10-06-2005
Originally Posted by rockjack:
“i agree she behaved badly but is it down to immaturity ”

That is no excuse.The anti-bullying teaching starts in primary school.
rachelb65
10-06-2005
Then I would say that my 11 and 12 year old are mature ..... They have been brought up never to treat anyone like that and I know they wouldn't.

A 19 year old should know better so theres no excuse for what she's done.
Gaz22
10-06-2005
All the better for her to learn from her BB experience that bullying and excessive bitching is wrong.
Glorfindel
10-06-2005
I'm a year older but I would NEVER behave the way Lesley has, I don't think that you can excuse her behaviour as immaturity - its all to do with her and very little to do with age, imo.
Exocet
10-06-2005
Size 19 ???
Jilly
10-06-2005
Also for the producers to realise 19 year olds are not good contestants.
Young-Free
10-06-2005
Originally Posted by rockjack:
“i agree she behaved badly but is it down to immaturity ”

No, we should put it down to lack of breeding and general vileness, I'm 18, and I would never treat anyone the way Lesleh has treated Sam.
CLL Dodge
10-06-2005
She's an adult. She said exactly that on tonight's highlight show.

And she's the same age as Kemal.
Pie Chart
10-06-2005
I don't come here a lot, but i'm under the impression the majority are pro-sam and anti-Lesley?!

Say it ain't so!
elpaw
10-06-2005
Originally Posted by rachelb65:
“Then I would say that my 11 and 12 year old are mature ..... They have been brought up never to treat anyone like that and I know they wouldn't.”

they'[re probably bitching about you behind your back right now
DillholeMcGinty
10-06-2005
No excuses. Shes 19 and of the correct age to be responsible for her actions, and the consequences of them
cheeks
10-06-2005
if she's only 19 then she shouldn't have been picked in the first place. Too many kids in there in my humble opinion
Rubber Nun
10-06-2005
No we don't. I've found this argument/defence/reasoning absolutely ridiculous this year. If you'd have said nine yes, but nineteen? No.
CLL Dodge
10-06-2005
There were anti-Sam last week.
Exocet
10-06-2005
Originally Posted by Cakeymoo:
“I don't come here a lot, but i'm under the impression the majority are pro-sam and anti-Lesley?!

Say it ain't so!”

Youngling, It is so
bulls_hitter
10-06-2005
19 = circumference of gob in inches?
rachelb65
10-06-2005
Originally Posted by elpaw:
“they'[re probably bitching about you behind your back right now ”

Doubt it fast asleep

Maybe thats where someone went wrong with her .... not enough disipline
rachelb65
10-06-2005
Originally Posted by Cakeymoo:
“I don't come here a lot, but i'm under the impression the majority are pro-sam and anti-Lesley?!

Say it ain't so!”

I'm anti sam and anti lesley .... doesn't matter what others do wrong you just don't bully
milly
10-06-2005
Originally Posted by BBDodge:
“She's an adult. She said exactly that on tonight's highlight show.

And she's the same age as Kemal.”

and isn't he mature..
Kewpee
10-06-2005
Her age is irrelevant, however other things should be thought about.

She has obviously never been told that her behaviour is wrong. She is ill educated at best, her parents have obviously made her feel very special (which isn't a bad thing in itself), but they omitted to teach her that others are just as special as she is, not better, not worse, the same.

I admit that there comes a time when you can't blame your upbringing, and you have to take responsibility for your own actions, but what is instilled in you as right and wrong as a child, sets you on the right road IMO.
duncann
10-06-2005
I wasn't a bully when I was five let alone nineteen. I understood it to be cruel and wrong.
Exocet
10-06-2005
In 1965 Vietnam seemed like just another foreign war,
but it wasn't.
It was different in many ways, as so were those that did the fighting.
In World War II the average age of the combat soldier was 26...
In Vietnam he was 19.
In Vietnam he was 19.
All those who remember the war
They won't forget what they've seen..
Destruction of men in their prime
whose average was 19
Dedededededede-Destruction
Dedededededede-Destruction
cheeks
10-06-2005
Originally Posted by Exocet:
“In 1965 Vietnam seemed like just another foreign war,
but it wasn't.
It was different in many ways, as so were those that did the fighting.
In World War II the average age of the combat soldier was 26...
In Vietnam he was 19.
In Vietnam he was 19.
All those who remember the war
They won't forget what they've seen..
Destruction of men in their prime
whose average was 19
Dedededededede-Destruction
Dedededededede-Destruction”

thank you, Paul Hardcastle.....
in-your-eye
10-06-2005
We do have to feel sorry for her but not because she’s 19
Social skills have to be installed in people from an early age and either Lesley was asleep at the time or her parents just could not be bothered to pass on what was taught to them if it ever was...

I think it’s a little unfair she was picked in the first place but being a perceived thicko did Jade Goody no harm financially which means so much these days to the Chav brigade
Easy money without having to work for it

After getting a heads up from Max about her behaviour Lesley choose to ignore it and then Big Brother had to step in

Even then it looked like she didn’t really grasp what was happening possibly because this is all she knows
Sad
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