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What is the link between Bad Wolf and Rose Tyler ?
I missed something in the translation when Bad Wolf was revealed to be Rose Tyler.
Can anybody explain what the link was ? confused of brum |
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When her eyes glowed, Rose was "channeling" the TARDIS; ie giving it a voice. It was the TARDIS that scattered the words "BAD WOLF" throughout the previous epioses as a sort-of cosmic 'Post-It" note (as someone in another thread put it
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Right, so it turns out that no one was Bad Wolf after all. It was just a cryptic message scattered by Rose/the Tardis throughout time so that Rose would know there was a way to get back to the Doctor.
Bit of a damp squib, perhaps? Apparently there will be another phrase or word in the next series that you have to listen out for (actually it's already been used in the last episode and the Christmas special) but I don't know if it's another message or just a trail someone has been leaving in time. I suppose all will be revealed later in 2006! |
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I was a bit flummoxed by Bad Wolf, in the end! Nice to know that I actually didn't misunderstand it, but that there never really was much of an explanation after all. When Rose was "God", at the end, she sent the words whizzing through time, so she would keep re-hearing them. That's a bit random, isn't it? Why couldn't she have sent the words "Open the heart of the Tardis once the Doctor has dumped you in the chip shop" through time? And why Bad Wolf? Is it because of the name of the TV Corporation? Had it "always" been written in her playground, so that's what inspired her to use those words?
My brain hurts now. chuff.x. |
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there would have been the same question if the words had been large coke. i was really impressed with the fact that it was not what any one expected, but a message linking her present to her past, and not a person or thing wich retrospectively would have made little sense as why would it advertise it self through out time.
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Bad Wolf
I suspect RTD simply choose bad wolf because of the welsh translation which includes Drwg??? hmmm bet he thought it might trick people into thinking there was something in the letters.
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Has RTD not said that Bad Wolf has not yet been explained ??
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Has RTD not said that Bad Wolf has not yet been explained ??
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he said that after the bad wolf ep.
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he said that after the bad wolf ep.
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yeah sorry i posted before i sore your err post
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yeah sorry i posted before i sore your err post
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Originally Posted by portlewattle
I suspect RTD simply choose bad wolf because of the welsh translation which includes Drwg??? hmmm bet he thought it might trick people into thinking there was something in the letters.
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I don't know what the link is between Rose and the Bad Wolf either, but I found an interesting blog called Bad Wolf Hunting which reveals a lot more threads to the theme. Love the one pointing out that Rose was wearing a red hooded top in the first episode.
I think the author's comment that it's reminiscent of the scariest of fairy tales is probably as close to the truth as you'll get. Actually come to think of it there's always been something wolfish about CE's grin throughout the series. And Rose's entry into the Doctor's world reminds me ever so slightly of 'Company of Wolves'. |
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What is so significant about drwg?
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I don't know what the link is between Rose and the Bad Wolf either, but I found an interesting blog called Bad Wolf Hunting which reveals a lot more threads to the theme. Love the one pointing out that Rose was wearing a red hooded top in the first episode.
I think the author's comment that it's reminiscent of the scariest of fairy tales is probably as close to the truth as you'll get. Actually come to think of it there's always been something wolfish about CE's grin throughout the series. And Rose's entry into the Doctor's world reminds me ever so slightly of 'Company of Wolves'.
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What is so significant about drwg?
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Originally Posted by chuffnobbler
Why couldn't she have sent the words "Open the heart of the Tardis once the Doctor has dumped you in the chip shop" through time?
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And why Bad Wolf?
You must remember, Rose is a chav and as such needs things spelled out to her. |
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Originally Posted by gymboy
What is so significant about drwg?
![]() Blaidd is the welsh word for WOLF Blaidd Drwg = Bad Wolf |
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Originally Posted by chuffnobbler
I was a bit flummoxed by Bad Wolf, in the end! Nice to know that I actually didn't misunderstand it, but that there never really was much of an explanation after all. When Rose was "God", at the end, she sent the words whizzing through time, so she would keep re-hearing them. That's a bit random, isn't it? Why couldn't she have sent the words "Open the heart of the Tardis once the Doctor has dumped you in the chip shop" through time? And why Bad Wolf? Is it because of the name of the TV Corporation? Had it "always" been written in her playground, so that's what inspired her to use those words?
My brain hurts now. chuff.x. it is a paradox though, because of course if he HAD recognised the significance, and made sure Rose couldnt return in the Tardis, then she would'nt have been able to send them back, cos she was,nt there to send them back, but then they wouldnt have been there in the first place.!!, BUT Rose, when she DID send them back, already knew the doc had NOT realised the significance(because she had come back to the station in the tardis), so it was safe to send back those words, Nurse Nurse!! my head hurts....
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it is a paradox though, because of course if he HAD recognised the significance, and made sure Rose couldnt return in the Tardis, then she would'nt have been able to send them back, cos she was,nt there to send them back, but then they wouldnt have been there in the first place.!!
So in this case the message that Rose left would have to be one that she would understand and the Doctor wouldn't, because the Doctor didn't understand it and she did. Of course that was easy because when she decided to leave the message she already knew exactly which was the right message to leave. |
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yes, thats what I said wasn it?
. Rose had to leave a message that she would understand, but not the doctor. so she couldnt send a message that he would realise the significance of. but she already knew the message, as you say, cos she had seen it. so 'bad wolf' was'nt a random choice, it was the ONLY choice.
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yes, thats what I said wasn it?
. Rose had to leave a message that she would understand, but not the doctor. so she couldnt send a message that he would realise the significance of. but she already knew the message, as you say, cos she had seen it. so 'bad wolf' was'nt a random choice, it was the ONLY choice.Of course it wouldn't have been the same would it However it still doesn't explain why they needed a tow-truck to open the heart of the Tardis as surely Omnisicent Rose could have arranged that as well |
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Originally Posted by ethel_wombat
Rose could have sent herself a letter in the mail marked "from the Doctor" with what she had to do certain in the knowledge that she'd open it.
Totally agree about the truck thing. Though it reminds me of the joke about the drowning priest... |
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Originally Posted by onion3000
Addressed to the TARDIS?
The point is it shows how ridiculous "Bad Wolf" turned out to be |
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. Rose had to leave a message that she would understand, but not the doctor. so she couldnt send a message that he would realise the significance of. but she already knew the message, as you say, cos she had seen it. so 'bad wolf' was'nt a random choice, it was the ONLY choice.