I missed something in the translation when Bad Wolf was revealed to be Rose Tyler.


Can anybody explain what the link was ?

confused of brum

When her eyes glowed, Rose was "channeling" the TARDIS; ie giving it a voice. It was the TARDIS that scattered the words "BAD WOLF" throughout the previous epioses as a sort-of cosmic 'Post-It" note (as someone in another thread put it )

Right, so it turns out that no one was Bad Wolf after all. It was just a cryptic message scattered by Rose/the Tardis throughout time so that Rose would know there was a way to get back to the Doctor.

Bit of a damp squib, perhaps?

Apparently there will be another phrase or word in the next series that you have to listen out for (actually it's already been used in the last episode and the Christmas special) but I don't know if it's another message or just a trail someone has been leaving in time. I suppose all will be revealed later in 2006!

I was a bit flummoxed by Bad Wolf, in the end! Nice to know that I actually didn't misunderstand it, but that there never really was much of an explanation after all. When Rose was "God", at the end, she sent the words whizzing through time, so she would keep re-hearing them. That's a bit random, isn't it? Why couldn't she have sent the words "Open the heart of the Tardis once the Doctor has dumped you in the chip shop" through time? And why Bad Wolf? Is it because of the name of the TV Corporation? Had it "always" been written in her playground, so that's what inspired her to use those words?

My brain hurts now.

chuff.x.

there would have been the same question if the words had been large coke. i was really impressed with the fact that it was not what any one expected, but a message linking her present to her past, and not a person or thing wich retrospectively would have made little sense as why would it advertise it self through out time.

I suspect RTD simply choose bad wolf because of the welsh translation which includes Drwg??? hmmm bet he thought it might trick people into thinking there was something in the letters.

Has RTD not said that Bad Wolf has not yet been explained ??

S.

I thought he only said that prior to the airing of POTWs.

he said that after the bad wolf ep.

Yes after Bad wolf but BEFORE Parting of the Ways - the explanation was in POTWs with Rose and her cosmic post-it notes.

yeah sorry i posted before i sore your err post

Sorry it's my fault I didn't read who'd posted properly before jumping in feet first with my twopennyworth - I thought sidekick had answered me

What is so significant about drwg?

I don't know what the link is between Rose and the Bad Wolf either, but I found an interesting blog called Bad Wolf Hunting which reveals a lot more threads to the theme. Love the one pointing out that Rose was wearing a red hooded top in the first episode.

I think the author's comment that it's reminiscent of the scariest of fairy tales is probably as close to the truth as you'll get.

Actually come to think of it there's always been something wolfish about CE's grin throughout the series. And Rose's entry into the Doctor's world reminds me ever so slightly of 'Company of Wolves'.

Dr Who Girl?

Just a thought.

...and the first thing the new Doctor notices about himself is his new teeth

Doctor's Wicked (note lack of 'evil') Grin? Wisecracking Goofiness? Weirdstone (of Brisin)gamen? Weally, Gosh knows.

Because then The Sun newspaper and the Iain Lee radio show wouldn't have hyped up the show even more by wondering what the cryptic phrase meant

And the writers wouldn't have had hours of amusement watching Doctor Who fans post their lunatic theories to messageboards.


Because that was the name of the Dalek's TV channel that was controlling the world. She had to return to Bad Wolf TV. The graffiti in the playground was just part of what she had scattered through time, like making the kid on the bike spray it onto the tardis or scratching into the floor of the playground she was sitting in.

You must remember, Rose is a chav and as such needs things spelled out to her.

Drwg is the welsh word for BAD
Blaidd is the welsh word for WOLF

Blaidd Drwg = Bad Wolf

The message had to be a cryptic clue. It had to be something that Rose would recognise, but the doctor, (who had noticed the clues before, but put them down to co-incidence) would'nt and hence, would'nt realise that Rose had sent them from the future. cos if he had realised, he might have made 100% sure that when he sent he back ,she wouldnt be able to return.

it is a paradox though, because of course if he HAD recognised the significance, and made sure Rose couldnt return in the Tardis, then she would'nt have been able to send them back, cos she was,nt there to send them back, but then they wouldnt have been there in the first place.!!,
BUT Rose, when she DID send them back, already knew the doc had NOT realised the significance(because she had come back to the station in the tardis), so it was safe to send back those words,
Nurse Nurse!! my head hurts....

Yes but a recently proposed quantum mechanical theory (this is genuine not made up) says that such paradoxes are impossible. So if you travel in the past you cannot do anything that would affect your present (e.g. killing your parents before you were conceived). It's not that some time policeman would appear and stop you doing it, it's simply that you would fail to do it mainly because what you did in the past was already history before you got there.

So in this case the message that Rose left would have to be one that she would understand and the Doctor wouldn't, because the Doctor didn't understand it and she did. Of course that was easy because when she decided to leave the message she already knew exactly which was the right message to leave.

yes, thats what I said wasn it? . Rose had to leave a message that she would understand, but not the doctor. so she couldnt send a message that he would realise the significance of. but she already knew the message, as you say, cos she had seen it. so 'bad wolf' was'nt a random choice, it was the ONLY choice.

Rose could have sent herself a letter in the mail marked "from the Doctor" with what she had to do certain in the knowledge that she'd open it.

Of course it wouldn't have been the same would it

However it still doesn't explain why they needed a tow-truck to open the heart of the Tardis as surely Omnisicent Rose could have arranged that as well

Addressed to the TARDIS?

Totally agree about the truck thing. Though it reminds me of the joke about the drowning priest...

Naw, to her mum's, Omnipotent Rose could have just made it appear in the pile of post and wouldn't even have had to pay for a stamp.

The point is it shows how ridiculous "Bad Wolf" turned out to be