Don't get me wrong I really loved the finale on Saturday. However I'm slightly worried, that now they can wheel out "super-rose" to beat any bad guy, seeing as she can delete their existence!

I know RTD are too smart to rely on this, and they won't, its just I know now that , that is in the Tardis!

Do I make sense? probably not

I'm honestly not sure they'd parade out "Super-Rose" every time - the Doctor's only got three more regenerations to play with! He can't afford to sacrifice many more just cos Rose fancies peering into the Time Vortex again. I can see it now...

The Doctor: Rose! Look out for that Cyberman!
Rose (ethereally): It's OK, Doctor. My Doctor. I can see it all again. I just have to send them back to Barcelona.
The Doctor: Oh Bugger. Just as I'd got used to these teeth...

LOL your right, it was just one of those randome ilthought thoughts that popped into my head

Not at all It could be a serious worry... especially if she leaves at the end of the next series...

Maybe she could get flashbacks to it, realise the power she had and lost, would do anything to get it back...

Bit close to the Bad Willow scenario in Buffy, but you never know

Kinda If you mean that they can keep wheeling her out by having her connect with the heart of the Tardis - well, they can't, not without the loss of either her or the Doctor (or, rather, one of his regenerations). When we saw super-Rose/golden Rose in TPOTW, she was totally physically overcome by the experience fairly rapidly, and was only saved by the Doctor's kiss, which drew the force into him, causing him to have to regenerate. So they couldn't really try that very often .

If you mean that there are things that Rose did while in this state of which we may not yet be aware (for instance, we saw Captain Jack revive, but what of the others on the station? Did all the daleks really vanish, or were the ones killed by the Ann Droid transmatted, as their predecessors had been? If things were returned to their status at the time of the Time Wars, are all the other Time Lords still dead, and all the daleks, so that any transmatting would effectively be wiped, even if it had happened? Or could she, in fact, change what happened to the Time Lords? And if so, what of the daleks?), then I think we will probably see some of this as a plot device in the future.

Whatever happens, it's going to be terrific fun finding out. And it will be very interesting to see how much of the above DT's DW knows about. Will he actually have total recall of absolutely everything CE's DW saw/heard/did/thought/felt? When CE's DW took the power back from Rose, did he absorb everything she had done in those moments, and will this knowledge have been passed on to DT's DW? Will he know that Captain Jack revived, and is apparently stranded on the station? And will Rose remember that?

Oh boy, I can't wait

Aah yes but it gave her a eadache!, it wouldn't be worth it

Bad Willow was ace

Seriously, though, it would be good if Rose gradually remembers the kind of infinite knowledge she had access to, and wants more of it. I can't imagine that recovering from having a time vortex inside you is an easy thing, so I'd like to see some kind of after effects.

Never seen Buffy, but it sounds a lot like the Dark Phoenix storyline from The XMen comic...

That's exactly what I said on Saturday, that this was like something straight out of the (American) comics ...

I wouldn't worry about CJ, nd, bearing in mind he lost two years of his memory somehow but still wound up in charge of a Chula war ship travelling in time in order to peddle dodgy temporal flotsam to the first wandering Time Agent that happened by and managing to have an affair with a British Soldier in 1941 while he was at it, I'd say he won't have much trouble finding a way off the Gamestation

As for Rose? I guess it'll be up to the Tardis if she has a gander under the bonnet again but I tend to agree that the Doctor wouldn't be casting regenerations aside left, right and centre every time Rose feels the need for omniscience...

Rose: I wonder what me Mum wants for Christmas? Oh I know what I can do...

Doctor: Oh bugger...

I don't know what came over the Doctor, she said she had a headache, and yet he still kissed her...

So the plot of TPOTW was rubbish because of 3 unlikely plot devices

1) Introduction of Emperor Dalek via the same method that "Derek" the Dalek had escaped the Final Time War.
2) Introducing Omniscent Rose with her "with a wave of her hand all was well" ability.
3) Rose understanding the meaning of "Bad Wolf" which led her to become Omniscent Rose with the ability to set up the "Bad Wolf" post-its so that she would understand the meaning of "Bad Wolf" which led her to become Omniscent Rose with the ability to set up the "Bad Wolf" post-its so that she would understand the meaning of "Bad Wolf" which led her to become...

Ah yes, CJ does indeed appear to be an extremely resourceful, sociable and versatile young man. I am glad he's back in the next series - he was a great counterpoint to the angsty side of CEDW, and also reinforced the joyous, bantering side of CE's character, after the initial techie size-queen/territorialism was overcome (all of which I loved ).

And yes, I think Rose should definitely be encouraged to be a bit of a Mogwai where bright lights are concerned .

TBH, I think she has lost the whole "removing things from time & space thing" however im not sure about the whole "I see everything" thing.

yes it struck me as S6 evilWillow as well, and she never fully recoverd from her experince

1. This didn't bother me. Derek and Emp - I hope we might later find they didn't 'accidentally' fall through time but were pushed, but in the meantime Derek's apperarance 'proved' that such an occurence was at least 'possible' (however unlikely!)

2. Rose just wanted to 'talk' to the TARDIS telepathically, girl-to-girl, to get it to take her back to the Doc. The TARDIS, rather meanly, possessed her with the Vortex.

3. to appreciate the third point, you have to understand that the TARDIS exists in all points of time and space simultaneously. For those few minutes, so did the Rose/TARDIS hybrid. The Doctor was in mortal danger under the Bad Wolf Corporation sign, so she/it/they left the post-it notes retroactively to tell Rose where she had to be without the Doctor cottoning on and crossing his own time-line. Didn't matter if it was done before, after or later; because of the TARDIS' temporal ambiguity, they're all its NOW. The message was deliberately veiled so that it would be noticed but not understood (as we on these threads know all too well!), until Rose saw the Playground and realised that things were still happening - That's when her resolve was strengthened and she had the idea of the telepathic link.

I (like BG) was a little disappointed that RTD chose the 'everyone working together opens the Heart of the TARDIS' over the 'Rose's love of the Doctor' option- but I don't think the TARDIS is quite right in the 'head'.

These are just my opinions (hopefully it will all be cleared up by the end of series '2') and you can tell me I'm wrong, but I was happy enough with the resolution.

In fact I thought it was GRRRrrrrrrrrrreat! ('Fantastic' is so first series!)

Like I say the whole thing was contrived but having the possibility of the return of Omniscent Rose gives a way for BP to leave the series, dying for Her Doctor

According to the newest Doctor Who Magazine, Captain Jack won't be back for the second series. They say John Barrowman is in great demand and is booked solid. However, they did hold out some hope for series three.

Frankly, I say, give Jack a spin-off series ...

Which contradicts what was said at the BAFTA showing og TPOTW

As ethel_wombat says, that does contradict what was said at the BAFTA screening last Wednesday. And given that print deadlines would presumably mean the DWM information predated the info given at BAFTA, which came straight from the mouths of RTD and JB, I think we will see CJ back on our screens before too long, although he's not in the first block of filming, from what was said.

The last series was filmed over eight months, starting in July last year, and wrapping the weekend before the launch in March, according to CE's interview at the press conference. If a similar filming schedule is being followed with the next series, it should hopefully give JB the time to fit the odd flit across our screens into his diary, presumably filming sometime after Xmas, as he seems to be pretty tied up with theatre until then - cabaret appearances, followed by A Few Good Men at the Theatre Royal Haymarket, previewing from Aug 18, and then panto (oh yes he is!). www.barrowmanonline.com

Sam Seaborn and Captain Jack on the same stage - few of my lady friends are going to faint

I thought that the implication was pretty much that the experience almost killed her. It caused the doctor to regenerate, so she's not likely going to try it again.

Perhaps this will be something that Rose and the Doc will discuss in the next episode...

You're a very clever person! I would never have been able to word that!! I've been trying to explain to my mum what Bad Wolf was since saturday!! I shall just say that and pass it off as my own knowledge!

No one shall ever suspect!

Seriously though I've said it before and I'm 100% certain I'll say it again but that really was the best series I've seen on Television...for years!!

Why didn't the doctor himself look into the Vortex to get the powers to atomise the Daleks. This is the sort of thing he woulddo, sacrificing his 9th regeneration to save humanity.
After rescuing Rose from the spacestation, he could have done this, come out of the tardis, as Rose in the end did, and send the Daleks and their Emperor off into cosmic dust. Then he would have collapsed and changed into David Tennant. Would have been a short episode i know, but would have saved a lot of bother.

But would the TARDIS have deliberately killed the Doctor? I think the way that Rose was taken over by the vortex was pretty nasty in retrospect - and happened because the TARDIS wanted to save the Doctor, regardless of the danger to Rose, or the salvation of millions of chip-eating apes who were also in danger.