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Eugene is NASTY!
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Lololala3363
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by 4Q Max:
“He does not have a medical degree. He does not even have a degree. He has a HND in Electrical Engineering.

He is geeky but not intelligent. Remember he did not even know the molecular structure of diamonds fgs!”

I know he doesn't have a medical drgree, it was a joke that obviously went over your head as well. Let me explain, he was being ironic, as if you would need to have a medical degree to know that a human can go for a couple of hours without food and more than 5 days without chocolate.
I think the reason Eugine is getting all this flack is because people just don't get him. For those with a more sophisticated sense of humour he can be very funny.
Average_Viewer
18-07-2005
oo I would love to lock some of you in a room with a limited amount of food and Science for 7 weeks and see if you come out sane - I for one would have mauled him badly within a fortnight ...

come on lighten up folks, Eugene is a normal, if maybe geeky chap - you all talk as though he's the devil all of a sudden - I'd far rather spend some time with Eugene than many of the others - geesh I reckon I'd rather get locked in a room with Eugene than many of you - at least I'd come out having had a good laugh and knowing more about microwaves and the universe than I did before!
wilo
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Straker:
“You would have him compromise with sly Derek, lying Makosi, bitchy Craig, stick-up-her-arse Orla, the new spiteful Eugene or paranoid Kemal? That he’s got on as well as he has with any of them is worthy of admiration. A sorrier collection of individuals I have never seen. Why should an honest, upstanding man climb down into the gutter with the trash?”

An honest upstanding man doesn't look at his fellow humans and call them trash.

Of course all the HMs have their bad points, but that doesn't mean that they are always wrong. Science regularly refuses very reasonable requests - like say, not eating nearly half the spuds, like giving the shouting a rest, like leaving his duvet with the girls so that they can clean the bedroom as instructed.

There is no stand in any of these actions - he is just awkward for the sake of it, for the sake of proving that he doesn't take orders from anyone. That's a pathetically childish way for a man of 22 to behave, and it has nothing to do with honour or integrity.

To be any kind of man of honour Science needs to start applying the same rules to himself as to others.

He is very perceptive of the failings of others, but he has a blind spot the size of the earth when it comes to himself.
nelly-j
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Lololala3363:
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I agree, Mother Teresa would have probably have had a few bitchy comments to say about Science if she had to live with him for a few weeks.”

spot on...lol
i don't usually decide who i like on whether i could live with them, i usually do it on quality of tv. but, science has changed all that...damn him! i think they all deserve to win after putting up with his ranting and animal noises etc etc.
nelly-j
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by wilo:
“An honest upstanding man doesn't look at his fellow humans and call them trash.

Of course all the HMs have their bad points, but that doesn't mean that they are always wrong. Science regularly refuses very reasonable requests - like say, not eating nearly half the spuds, like giving the shouting a rest, like leaving his duvet with the girls so that they can clean the bedroom as instructed.

There is no stand in any of these actions - he is just awkward for the sake of it, for the sake of proving that he doesn't take orders from anyone. That's a pathetically childish way for a man of 22 to behave, and it has nothing to do with honour or integrity.

To be any kind of man of honour Science needs to start applying the same rules to himself as to others.

He is very perceptive of the failings of others, but he has a blind spot the size of the earth when it comes to himself.”


good post wilo, to call anyone who disagrees with his view idiots is arrogance.
jesaya
18-07-2005
Yes, good post Wilo - well said.
4Q Max
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Lololala3363:
“I know he doesn't have a medical drgree, it was a joke that obviously went over your head as well. Let me explain, he was being ironic, as if you would need to have a medical degree to know that a human can go for a couple of hours without food and more than 5 days without chocolate.
I think the reason Eugine is getting all this flack is because people just don't get him. For those with a more sophisticated sense of humour he can be very funny.”

Read the thread and you will see how it followed a line of previous posts.

The “I don’t need a degree in clinical psychology to see you have a double digit IQ!” Is a cheap and abusive ‘comedy’ TOOL.
jesaya
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by 4Q Max:
“Read the thread and you will see how it followed a line of previous posts.

The “I don’t need a degree in clinical psychologist to see you have a double digit IQ!” Is a cheap and abusive ‘comedy’ TOOL.”

But that isn't what he said... "When I got my medical degree.. etc" was how he phrased it - it was irony... and he was making a valid point about the choc/sweet-centric attitudes of housemates.
pickle
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by wilo:
“Science regularly refuses very reasonable requests - like say, not eating nearly half the spuds, like giving the shouting a rest, like leaving his duvet with the girls so that they can clean the bedroom as instructed.”

Yeah you have a point, now you put it like that i think i see the wickedness of the man.



I'm sure the others have done nothing that even compares to such shocking behaviour.
The Spoon
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Straker:
“This is where the germ of Eugene’s comment came from - Probably wanted them to buy a whole pig and spit roast it in the garden, leaving a flank curing in the loft for bacon sarnies and gammon steaks.”

LOL

What I meant by 'anti-social' is that he never seems to want to discuss/agree communal food - I didn't mean that he was selfish when he had cooked. as for pork, it is fair enough that he keeps to his dietary principles and the HMs should not prevent that.
Science may not seem as much of a player as Makosi, but I bet he knows exactly what is going on and thinks how to use it,
Lololala3363
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by 4Q Max:
“Read the thread and you will see how it followed a line of previous posts.

The “I don’t need a degree in clinical psychology to see you have a double digit IQ!” Is a cheap and abusive ‘comedy’ TOOL.”

I think that is just twisting what he said to have a cheap shot at him.
wilo
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by pickle:
“Yeah you have a point, now you put it like that i think i see the wickedness of the man.



I'm sure the others have done nothing that even compares to such shocking behaviour.”

What is the matter with you?

I'm not talking about the others, I'm talking only about Science.

Or is "man of honour" a relative term now? Do you get to be a man of honour as long as you're not as unpleasant and nasty as the people around you?
jesaya
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by pickle:
“Yeah you have a point, now you put it like that i think i see the wickedness of the man.



I'm sure the others have done nothing that even compares to such shocking behaviour.”

Sorry wilo, I know you can respond yourself but Pickle - Science's behaviour in refusing reasonable requests is one of the reasons people dislike him so - if you take a position on something truly important then you can be forgiven being loud or passionate - but to refuse to hand over a quilt when another h/m cannot do a task without it (and when they have offered an alternative) is just silly and selfish. Science's reactions are always attack-attack-attack and it is incredibly tiring for me as a viewer... heaven knows what it must be like to actually live with it.
4Q Max
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Lololala3363:
“I think that is just twisting what he said to have a cheap shot at him. ”

This thread is about Eugene’s serious suggestion that the house only buy food and beverages that Science cannot eat.

The very idea shows his true nature.
Vaseline
18-07-2005
I dont care too much for Science so aside from Science i have noticed Eugene has started to get really sarky. He said something sarky to Makosi about surviving without chocolate but i didnt see the need - it really wasnt a moment that needed sarcasm since she didnt have a go at him, she was only surprised he'd saved it.

I think he is easly influenced too but he is probably convinced that he can think for himself.
pickle
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by wilo:
“What is the matter with you?

I'm not talking about the others, I'm talking only about Science.

Or is "man of honour" a relative term now? Do you get to be a man of honour as long as you're not as unpleasant and nasty as the people around you? ”

Man of honour? I don't remember using that term...

Anyway how does being a bit stubborn occasionally and shouting a bit prevent one from being a "man of honour"?

But regardless, doesn't being less unpleasant that the rest of the housemates deserve some accolade? Everything you condemn Science for has been done by the rest of them in addition to a plethora of quite disgusting bitching and deceit... I guess if you can't see how Science is different to them you never will.
wilo
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by pickle:
“Everything you condemn Science for has been done by the rest of them in addition to a plethora of quite disgusting bitching and deceit... I guess if you can't see how Science is different to them you never will.”

It seems to me that it is you who has difficulty seeing how different Science is, if you can't see that the things I am criticising (not condemning) Science for are not things the others have done.
wilo
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Jesaya:
“Sorry wilo, I know you can respond yourself but Pickle - Science's behaviour in refusing reasonable requests is one of the reasons people dislike him so - if you take a position on something truly important then you can be forgiven being loud or passionate - but to refuse to hand over a quilt when another h/m cannot do a task without it (and when they have offered an alternative) is just silly and selfish. Science's reactions are always attack-attack-attack and it is incredibly tiring for me as a viewer... heaven knows what it must be like to actually live with it.”

Don't worry, you did it much better than I.
pickle
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by Jesaya:
“Sorry wilo, I know you can respond yourself but Pickle - Science's behaviour in refusing reasonable requests is one of the reasons people dislike him so - if you take a position on something truly important then you can be forgiven being loud or passionate - but to refuse to hand over a quilt when another h/m cannot do a task without it (and when they have offered an alternative) is just silly and selfish. Science's reactions are always attack-attack-attack and it is incredibly tiring for me as a viewer... heaven knows what it must be like to actually live with it.”

Yeah absolutely, Science should obey his masters without hesitation.

jesaya
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by pickle:
“Yeah absolutely, Science should obey his masters without hesitation.

”

Who said anything about masters?
wilo
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by pickle:
“Yeah absolutely, Science should obey his masters without hesitation.

”

Wow, you really like that rolleyes, huh?

Does it make you feel big and clever to sneer at everything we say?

I'm starting to why it is you think it is so admirable of Science to disregard what other people say.

Asking somebody to do something that is for the good of everybody is not setting yourself up as their "master". That is just childish rhetoric that Science uses to defend his selfish, contrary, inconsiderate behaviour.
pickle
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by wilo:
“Wow, you really like that rolleyes, huh?

Does it make you feel big and clever to sneer at everything we say?

I'm starting to why it is you think it is so admirable of Science to disregard what other people say.

Asking somebody to do something that is for the good of everybody is not setting yourself up as their "master". That is just childish rhetoric that Science uses to defend his selfish, contrary, inconsiderate behaviour.”

I suggest you go and cool off or something. Clearly you unable to engage in conversation without getting personal.

I'm wondering why you see it as such a crime to disregard what "other people" say. Nobody is boss in the house, people are at liberty to do what they feel, whether it be right or wrong.

Anyway, this debate is clearly going nowhere so this will be my last post.

Oh, and btw, who is "we", is there a bunch of you there?

Oh, and here, have another smiley...
Callous
18-07-2005
In case anyone was wondering why they were trying to limit the food Science could take-

http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds8217.html

The argument began after Science, who declared that he would be cooking for himself, took more than his allotted share of mince and potatoes.

Craig pointed out the unfairness of Science having four potatoes to himself while the rest of the group had just nine between them.
wilo
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by pickle:
“I'm wondering why you see it as such a crime to disregard what "other people" say. Nobody is boss in the house, people are at liberty to do what they feel, whether it be right or wrong.”

Because I think that an inability to co-exist happily with other people is a failing.

We are all free, all the time to do whatever the f'ck we like, whether it be right or wrong. Nobody is boss of the world.
robx0666
18-07-2005
Originally Posted by 4Q Max:
“I have lost all respect for Eugene. His suggestion that the house only buy food and beverages that Science cannot eat is disgraceful.

His recent bitching against Science has been the most vitriolic and malevolent. He is very nasty indeed.

The others have been totally OTT against Science lately – called him a thief, liar and so on, but there is a feeling that they are on massive propaganda drive to persuade the Public to turn against Science because they think Science is the most popular with the Public and they want win. They are ‘playing’ the game, albeit in a dishonourable and low way.

Eugene on the other hand has been, and is, nasty towards Science in a way that goes way beyond what is acceptable in this harsh game. The very idea that starving Science is a good strategy to get revenge on Science simply because he shouts a bit and is fastidious about what he eats (and the preparation of food) is indicative of a truly horrible person.

The others (to their credit) dismissed Eugene’s suggestion as a step too far. Eugene is an evil nasty character at heart.

”

Eugene is clearly NOT nasty at heart. You need a bit more evidence for such an allegation than that, particularly when the supposed victim is one of the most selfish housemates ever!
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